I’ve been lurking this forum for a while now. I originally came here because I was interested in learning about the Third Eye and Siddhis. One thing I’ve noticed is that a lot of you guys talk with great “authority” concerning the Siddhis.
How many of you have actually experienced a Siddhi (either have used one or seen someone use one)?
I have.
[QUOTE=Melchizedek;75890]I have.[/QUOTE]
…? Care to elaborate? What was it that you saw/did?
“The lights of discriminative wisdom.”
“can perform dharana” so any number of the phenomenon associated with that “ability”
(other unmentionables)
As far as flight, levitation, bilocation, and all that other fancy stuff.
No.
But I have no reason to believe it can’t be done. Nor do I have any reason to believe that I could not do it.
You are correct to criticize Amatory. Siddhis, especially the ones Patanjali describes are very rare attainments and the chances are the majority of people who talk about it here have not had any direct experience of siddhis.
A Siddhi can refer to any extraordinary ability from ordinary powers like high intelligence, creativity, photographic memory to paranormal powers like telekinesis, telepathy, levitation, teleportation, to divine powers like omniscience and omnipotence. These are siddhis, because they are all dormant powers and abilities within human minds, and thus need to be awakened.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;75928]You are correct to criticize Amatory. Siddhis, especially the ones Patanjali describes are very rare attainments and the chances are the majority of people who talk about it here have not had any direct experience of siddhis.
A Siddhi can refer to any extraordinary ability from ordinary powers like high intelligence, creativity, photographic memory to paranormal powers like telekinesis, telepathy, levitation, teleportation, to divine powers like omniscience and omnipotence. These are siddhis, because they are all dormant powers and abilities within human minds, and thus need to be awakened.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for answering the question. Mind answering another one? I think in Pantanjali’s Yoga Sutras, he mentions “Samyama”. I try to understand it based off of what I read, but I can’t, lol. Can you give a dumbed down version of what it is? It sounds to me like just concentrating on something.
Samyama means perfection concentration or perfect control. So you are not far off that samyama is concentrating on something, and depending on which object you concentrate on certain siddhis can be awakened. However, this is not concentration as we normally understand it, like straining to focus on something. This conjours up images of people straining really hard to try and move a pen using telekenisis and giving themselves a headache lol On the contrary, it is more like a sustained meditation.
A sustained meditation differs from concentration because while concentration involves effort to focus on something, meditation does not require effort but only the discipline that as soon as your mind starts to wander from your object, you will notice it and then bring it back. You will maintain this process indefinitely and if your meditation is successful, you will start to shift into more deeper states of consciousness. If you continue to maintain the process, you will shift into even more deeper stages known as samadhi. It is at these stages that the siddhis associated with your object will start to manifest.
In order to understand why this is possible I will explain briefly the theory of Samkhya behind Yoga. According to Samkhya all matter exists at several level ranging from gross physical matter to the most subtle mental matter, to the absolute subtlest matter which is the three fundamental forces of the gunas. This most absolute level is known as the moolaprakriti field, meaning quantum or fundamental/root level of matter. In Yogic Samadhi one is accessing this level of reality of the object they are meditating on. This is why one is able to gain access and control of the root level of matter Some siddhis will become available at lower levels, like for example being able to control your heartbeat and body temperature, but most of the Siddhis patanjajali describes can only become available at the higher levels.
Now Patanjali warns that siddhis are not the goal of Yoga, they are more of a biproduct of the process and also a signpost that you are on the right track. So try not to meditate waiting for a siddhis to appear or meditate to attain a certain siddhi. Simply do your meditation and the siddhis will start to naturally come based on your progress.
I will add: Patanjali describes samyama as a combination of dharana, dhayana and samadhi. This basically means that as soon as you have selected your object of meditation in the dharana stage, it will naturally lead onto the dhyana and then to samadhi, and then depending on which object you selected, the siddhis linked with it will activate. For example, if your object of meditation is the Udana Vayu in your body, the upwards pranic current. Then you will meditate on this, this will progress through the dhyana stage to the samadhi stage, and you will attain samyama on the Udana vayu and the siddhi of levitation and flying linked with it.
Surya.
Is perfect concentration not the state of absorption?
Control of this leading to all siddhas.
Absorption is not hard. It simply takes practise.
Relaxation is the key.
For absorption happens everynight. If it did not, you would never sleep 
for sleep happens due to absorption. Which we know,relaxing and letting go = absorption.
Though this is uncontrolled absorption.
I need to start practising again. I used to lay down,relax my body. And my mind would enter the state of absorption. Yet the object of concentration was silence. And I would become competly unconscious. So.
Do you know if conscious absorption is possible? Or is all consciousness of the world lost when in samadhi?
Avatar if you become unconscious during meditation that would be useless and you should always try to keep your mind alert and do not dissapear as this leads to nothing. In samadhi your mind is watching but your body will be sleeping, turiya; beyond sleep dream and wakeful state. You will not feel your body you will only be consciousness witnessing. Many people have surely
experienced little of this feeling (not in meditation) but are just unaware of it due to ignorance.
This is why you need to focus -be one pointed. Or else it can happen as it did for you, become unconscious. This happened to me as well a long time ago.
Surya.
Is perfect concentration not the state of absorption?
Control of this leading to all siddhas.
Absorption is not hard. It simply takes practise.
Relaxation is the key.
For absorption happens everynight. If it did not, you would never sleep for sleep happens due to absorption. Which we know,relaxing and letting go = absorption.
Though this is uncontrolled absorption.
I need to start practising again. I used to lay down,relax my body. And my mind would enter the state of absorption. Yet the object of concentration was silence. And I would become competly unconscious. So.
Do you know if conscious absorption is possible? Or is all consciousness of the world lost when in samadhi?
Yes, conscious absorption is the very definition of enlightenment given in the Gita: The wise are they who are awake when others are asleep and asleep when others are awake.
Deep sleep is what the Vedanta says is the state where one abides in the self. However, unconsciousness covers that, so one does not have knowledge of it. When that same state is realized while awake in meditation, then one has attained self-realization.
There are various stages of samadhi. Siddhis become active at various stages. The ultimate samadhi is total self-realization and liberation. What happens during this phase only the self-realized one can know. Do you continue to exist in human form while being self-realized or does the world disappear and you attain to some infinite state. In Advaita it is said that one cannot attain to the final state until death. So who who attains liberation in this life, still must wait for his remaining past karmas to be worked out during this life and then upon death is liberated.
Ah!
Thank you!
Letting the body fall asleep is easy with practise.
but unconsciousness was thick horizantal wall. I lost consciousness as I traversed it.
So traverse the unconscious?
Ah yes. Without body feeling. The mind is super concentrated. Aware. Amazing state to be in. But I experianced it through a substance that caused sensory disassociation as a side effect.
Very knowledgeable bunch!
So! I ask the most important question!
Who knows how to make the “water of the kidneys” press upwards?
literally, urine will press upwards. Usually it presses downwards in the average adult.
Now that you know to be focused i wish you the best in your practice and you will surely progress.
I heard some psychedelics can help a lot to awake siddhis because they can be very helpful and improve a lot meditation state or something like that. Is that true?
Siddhis can become big hindrances to self realization.
But at the same time some siddhis can be used to help others in need.
Last state in samadhi is without seed so there, no siddhis would be used anyway.
And no siddhi is needed to enter samadhi. But if any siddhi can enhance meditation is outside my knowledge so that i could not answer.
That which is expressed externally. Can be expressed internally. The wrong thing used In the right way is right. The right thing used in the wrong way is wrong. 