Supta Pawanmuktasana: I'm doing it wrong

Hi, I have a problem with the leg lock pose. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but when I do the pose pulling both knees up my back curves and a very small portion of my spine right in the centre of my lower back is the only point of contact with the floor. And it hurts.

I guess I have to somehow keep my back straight, is that right?

Astralogic

Sounds like stiff muscles and then you should practice your whole body and not just stretch or strengthen some muscle as the problem will then only move to another part. But if you already practice your whole body then you could add some asanas to do every day.

But from your text its hard to know if you do practice on a regular basis.
If you practice yoga you should ask the teacher but if you are too shy to do this then asking here is better than being quiet.

I do practise every day, but not with a teacher.

That’s why I come here to ask questions.

This is the reason why we need a teacher to get it right at least for a couple of sessions.

If anyone is able to help you they will need to know your program and from where you learned to do the asanas like cd internet etc.

There are some good techers here they might be able to assist you, i would still however advice you to take some class as it is not a good idea to gamble with your body and health as no one can tell you when you do it wrong.If you have yoga where you live will say.

I’m learning from a book called A Systematic Course in the Ancient Tantric Tchniques of Yoga and Kriya by Swami Satyananda Saraswati.

I’d love to go to a yoga class, or even any kind of class, but I have anxiety problems that prevent me from doing a lot of things.

In Supta Pawanmuktasana the hips should never leave the floor correct?

My lower back or bottom will lift a little when I lift my head to touch the knees or at least it feels so. You could probably google and choose show images.

Would your anxiety prevent you from taking private classes? But they could maybe be pricey.

1 rule in yoga is dont do it if it hurts. So it should never be like you endure pain cause you believe it is good for you.

My anxiety prevents me from getting a job so I can’t afford private classes, I probably couldn’t even afford public classes.

This book and this forum are my only hope (and google too). If I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong, do you recommend that I simply do not do Supta Pawanmuktasana? I think that would be best.

I haven’t given up though, I did Supta Pawanmuktasana for the first time yesterday and it didn’t hurt my back at all, so it might be something very simple that I’m missing.

Wait so some teacher here can help you as i never had any problem with this pose i never thought about it. Innerathlete here would be able to give more specific answer.

But if it hurts a lot doing it will only worsen it. I guess you could leave it for some time?
Did you try to check different sources or looking at videos?

Did you try to meditate as well?

please, stop doing ‘fitness yoga’ , ‘gynastic yoga’ , ALL THIS IS FAKE and have no results in true hatha yoga objective , we true yogis from india dont suport the fake yoga, that can bring you false good feelings on begning , but after time if you continue to practise on wrong way , that will bring injuries to you… hatha yoga very serius science of body&mind alchemy so need expert guru to guide you to what you need… most ocident fake yoga, not good… fake yogi learn from books and fake masters teach student to do all things, asanas ( in wrong way) , all pranayans and all krya and all bandhas and all mudras in wrong way… a true guru will see what you need on moment and will teach you sadhana especific for you… so if you are having pain and dont see advance on your practice probabily you are learning it on wrong way… almost all ocident yoga are fake and we indian true yogi dont like it blamming our culture

Looking at videos didn’t help, people seem much more relaxed in the pose then I feel, I am simply going to stop doing the two leg version. I can do one leg at a time fine, two legs at once though causes too much of a spinal curve and the bones on my spine dig into the floor.

Nath Ji, thanks for the input, I have no doubt whatsoever that what you say is true, however, I’m doing the best that I can with what I can use. I can’t go to class and I can’t see a teacher, if I could I’d also get a job and have a life. I can’t do those things (yet, hopefully).

Thanks for all the help so far.
Child of the Tao

To the OP,

Do you have any injury or condition we should be aware of? For instance, if you have a herniated disc (depending on the protrusion) rounding the back to bring nose to knee would be painful and contraindicated.

I would suggest, if there is pain while doing the pose, stop immediately. This is a pretty gentle pose, so if there is pain, something is wrong.

Try not bringing your nose to knees. Keep one leg extended or keep that legs knee bent with foot on mat. Then bring other knee into chest. Do not lift the head/chest. This is a more gentle variation and the way I actually teach it. Wonderful to allow gravity to assist in releasing the psoas of the straight leg.

I’ll give that variation a try, thanks lotusgirl.

I might have dystonia (but not to the extent it looks like I have parkinson’s disease). I’ll be going to the doctors tomorrow to find out. It might not be dystonia though, and if it’s not I don’t what it could be because there is definitely [I]something[/I] wrong internally.

It’s one of the reasons I turned to yoga, hopefully it will help with whatever condition this is.

Dear Childofthetao,

I am familiar with both dystonia (my husband) and parkinson’s (one of my students) and if you don’t mind giving us all a bit more detail about what type(s) of movement, severity and specific areas affected.

I don’t know where you live, but if paying for yoga classes or private session is an issue, I think if you found a well qualified teacher and spoke with him/her about this, they would work with you on payment. (whether it is a reduced or zero amount or barter) A holistic approach is the best approach. (Pranayama, diet, mudra, meditation, QiGong, yoga and weight training)

Here is a detailed description that I posted on a Dystonia forum a day or two ago (asking for confirmation that this might be dystonia). Here it is:

I have made an appointment to see my GP. However I’d like to know if anyone here thinks Dystonia is a possibility given my symptoms.

My uncle has Dystonia, his head wobbles all the time like he’s always saying no, much like Parkinsons disease. He said the only reason his condition is that bad (my head doesn’t wobble) is because the doctors never identified it as Dystonia, and could have prevented it from getting that bad if it didn’t go undiagnosed for so many years.

He said it originally was a mild neck twitch that was not permanent, only every now and then. He also said it caused a problem with his ability to balance. These symptoms are exactly what I have. Along with a loss of awareness in my hips, shoulders, jaw, and eyes. Walking is a little awkward, I do tend to lose balance and wobble very easily especially if I move my eyes to the far left or right while walking. Moving my eyes tends to unbalance me when walking.

It’s harder to hold my head up now when I’m fully relaxed like watching TV, my head tends to “fall” to the side, as through my neck muscles have slacked off.

There’s also one more symptom, you know that feeling you get in your neck when you need to crack it? Well I have that feeling permanently and my neck won’t crack no matter how far I twist it. I’m surprised my head is still after on the effort I’ve put into trying to crack that “knot” away.

This was caused (I’m quite sure) from a period of excessive ecstasy and amphetamine use (which has now stopped, has been stopped for a couple of years now at least).

Does this sound like Dystonia? I have been to the doctors before (not knowing about the condition Dystonia) where I described my symptoms and he just dismissed me. He said “well, drugs are bad, they do bad things to you, now go away” (I’m paraphrasing there).

Now I’m going to see a different doctor, and if I mention the word Dystonia he may know exactly what to check for, I just hope it is Dystonia because if it’s not I don’t know if it will ever be diagnosed.

Thanks

No one has replied to the post I made on that Dystonia forum, no one seems to know.

Thanks for the info. Need to qualify what I said earlier. My husband has Tardive Dyskinesia, not Dystonia. Both are movement disorders. His was caused by medication. Medication stopped, symptoms stopped.

Let us know what the Dr. says. To offer anything more before that would not be appropriate. Good luck!

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