I am sending my thoughts to all who can read minds of other people.
[QUOTE=kareng;62453]Interesting, and yes Oak, I agree, it is nothing to laugh about. but I would like to add that even an active mind can welcome the ‘devil’ so to speak…
Simplistically, I think that grounding the mind will keep it in good condition in everyday living and guard it . Beyond this, we should know what to look for in terms of attachment to negatives.[/QUOTE]
You are right: in normal circumstances, an active mind can avoid bad thoughts. To quote Yogananda: a lazy mind is an invitation for the devil.
However, I meant abnormal circumstances, in which people are tortured mentally. There are lots of people like this and cases were even presented
to President Obama:
Not many people can stand it.
It is less known that schizophrenic effects can be simulated by hypnosis or by
remote electromagnetic weaponry. Microwave transmission of “voices” directly to skull is well known.
I do not mean here gross conspiracy theories. These are scientifical facts, with
lots of USA patents.
Remote weaponry is accessible to big organizations.
“You are right: in normal circumstances, an active mind can avoid bad thoughts.”
As long as a dimension which is not of the mind has yet to enter into one’s perception, then whether so called “good” or “bad” thoughts arise, it makes no difference - you have basically become the slave. Limited to the mind, one is certain to become identified with just about anything whatsoever which arises in ones experience. That is why a meditative consciousness is such - that there can be no “good” or “bad” thoughts, there are simply thoughts - some which you like and some which you dislike. The whole spirit of meditation is to remain a witness from moment to moment, without judgment, with neither a finger for or against, without even a particle of prejudice. Even if a paradise passes by the scene of your experience - keep the stream of awareness moving like an unceasing river current.
kareng,
"e.g…when Buddhists gather in numbers they perform rituals before they meditate to keep the hungry ghosts at a distance…and of course they do this alone as well…
They exist…"
Yes, they exist, but they are none other than aspects of your own consciousness. All of these countless deities are just projections of the mind. That is why if you look at the deities of the Chinese, they all have Chinese faces, speak the Chinese language, identify with Chinese culture. The deities of the Hindus are different, they all have Hindu names, speak Sanskrit language - and of course, Sanskrit is a divine language which has come from Brahman. The Jews are just as convinced, that Hebrew is a divine language which has been handed down from the angels of God. And the mind is such - that it will see whatever it wants to see. A Buddhist may enter into his meditation and see a vision of Buddha, a Hindu may enter into his meditation and see Shiva, a Christian may see Christ - but the Christian will never see Shiva or Buddha - he has no identifications within himself to manufacture such a thing. These “hungry ghosts” are just projections of one’s own mind. And, there is a possibility of there being some external reality to what one is calling “hungry ghosts”, but then what one is calling “hungry ghosts” is purely symbolic. If you understand these deities as simply being symbolic for certain forces of nature, then they are just a skillful means to refer to different dimensions of existence. But if you understand them as literal - then you are just being foolish. If you really believe that Shiva has several arms, blue skin with a third eye on the forehead, then you are just becoming entangled in your own imagination.
[QUOTE=AmirMourad;62502]“You are right: in normal circumstances, an active mind can avoid bad thoughts.”
As long as a dimension which is not of the mind has yet to enter into one’s perception, then whether so called “good” or “bad” thoughts arise, it makes no difference - you have basically become the slave. Limited to the mind, one is certain to become identified with just about anything whatsoever which arises in ones experience. That is why a meditative consciousness is such - that there can be no “good” or “bad” thoughts, there are simply thoughts - some which you like and some which you dislike. The whole spirit of meditation is to remain a witness from moment to moment, without judgment, with neither a finger for or against, without even a particle of prejudice. Even if a paradise passes by the scene of your experience - keep the stream of awareness moving like an unceasing river current.[/QUOTE]
Try to understand the sufferings of some people targeted by mind control torture:
http://www.greatdreams.com/mind_control.htm
It is a lot more than to control your mind by yoga techniques.
Some perpetrators were even documented in videos:
You can search the Internt to your heart’s content. There is a huge amount of information.
[QUOTE=AmirMourad;62503]kareng,
"e.g…when Buddhists gather in numbers they perform rituals before they meditate to keep the hungry ghosts at a distance…and of course they do this alone as well…
They exist…"
Yes, they exist, but they are none other than aspects of your own consciousness. All of these countless deities are just projections of the mind. That is why if you look at the deities of the Chinese, they all have Chinese faces, speak the Chinese language, identify with Chinese culture. The deities of the Hindus are different, they all have Hindu names, speak Sanskrit language - and of course, Sanskrit is a divine language which has come from Brahman. The Jews are just as convinced, that Hebrew is a divine language which has been handed down from the angels of God. And the mind is such - that it will see whatever it wants to see. A Buddhist may enter into his meditation and see a vision of Buddha, a Hindu may enter into his meditation and see Shiva, a Christian may see Christ - but the Christian will never see Shiva or Buddha - he has no identifications within himself to manufacture such a thing. These “hungry ghosts” are just projections of one’s own mind. And, there is a possibility of there being some external reality to what one is calling “hungry ghosts”, but then what one is calling “hungry ghosts” is purely symbolic. If you understand these deities as simply being symbolic for certain forces of nature, then they are just a skillful means to refer to different dimensions of existence. But if you understand them as literal - then you are just being foolish. If you really believe that Shiva has several arms, blue skin with a third eye on the forehead, then you are just becoming entangled in your own imagination.[/QUOTE]
It does not always follow that a Christian may see Christ etc…this is where it becomes quite interesting. You can be a Christian and then find out that your experiences and images you see do not belong to the Christian faith and actually belong to previous lives as say a Buddhist. So the Christian is expecting Christ but sees a Buddha.
Amir…why do the Buddhists pay great attention to protecting themselves when it is all in the mind, so to speak???
Another point is the inner guru is something that ALL humans can locate or awake, ALL…so what is this aspect?..e.g…I have located the inner guru and the inner guru also appears without looking for it and I know a Chinese Buddhist who has explained/experienced exactly what I have experienced, so, there is a mechanism that is identical for all ?
I agree that they are constructs of the mind and yet they are treated in many instances in Buddhism as if they are not?? Why??
Thanks Amir
[QUOTE=AmirMourad;62502]“You are right: in normal circumstances, an active mind can avoid bad thoughts.”
As long as a dimension which is not of the mind has yet to enter into one’s perception, then whether so called “good” or “bad” thoughts arise, it makes no difference - you have basically become the slave. Limited to the mind, one is certain to become identified with just about anything whatsoever which arises in ones experience. That is why a meditative consciousness is such - that there can be no “good” or “bad” thoughts, there are simply thoughts - some which you like and some which you dislike. The whole spirit of meditation is to remain a witness from moment to moment, without judgment, with neither a finger for or against, without even a particle of prejudice. Even if a paradise passes by the scene of your experience - keep the stream of awareness moving like an unceasing river current.[/QUOTE]
I like this…a slave…yes
OK, what you think how can telepathy work? What kind of waves transmit it or is it some strange quantum theory behind it.
[QUOTE=AmirMourad;62502]“You are right: in normal circumstances, an active mind can avoid bad thoughts.”
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It is well known that the mind is quite susceptible to hypnosis just before sleep and just after sleep, when you do not sleep but you are not awake.
There are well known examples of people with telepathic abilities, like Wolf Messing and
Edgar Cayce. There is a lot of info about them on the net.
Just for amusement: Wolf Messing was a Polish Jew. He flew from Poland To Soviet Union, to escape Hitler.
He performed formidable circus feasts. Stalin learned about them and tested him. One of the tests was to get into Stalin’s office, obviously well guarded by security people. Wolf Messing did that with no difficulty at all. When asked how he did that, he simply replied:
“I hypnotized the security people that I was their chief.”
In Romania there is Valentina, a blind lady. You can call her by phone from Canada and she tells you exactly what your diseases are.
There are probably many others, but I do not know about them all.
this is interesting. you’re not the only one with this, btw.
it could be any number of things. have you tried religion? religion has always had ways to deal with psychic issues. Christianity is usually open doors for everyone and the priests / pastors usually have some kind of answer for you.
and you can always go back to them.
because its a mental issue, there’s also a psychologist. you might want to talk to someone who is a trained counselor.
recommend you google the subjects you think about. a lot of people are thinking about them, also! some will have some answers you will like.
and since this is a site about Yoga, why not try learning Yoga & meditation. it is great for your health and peace of mind. try to find a class where teachers give an extra time for meditation … and / or you can always learn at your home, some people do Yoga in the city parks in the morning & afternoon.
hope this makes some sense. Telepathy is a subject I think a lot about. Actually all the time. So hopefully some of the advise will give you some peace of mind.
The case of Vinko (first post) reached further. It is on WebMD site:
http://forums.webmd.com/3/schizophrenia/forum/90/3
It might be not just schizophrenia. Telepathic attacks right now seem to be pretty common. Here you have a company which specializes in telepathic security: