The god hate you

Spirituality Religion
#1

i was alawys alone i feeel always people are not interst to me since i was baby …certainly i have right to find somone wich i have common with him but intil now i have none …

i rememebr one phrase i heard in TV " if the people hate you = the god hate you “”

the god hate me ? what i did wrong ? i still alone in prison , i cant make sin why he would hate me ? why he make the people hate me ? becoz iml ugly ? but he is who create me like that right ?

and about hating ? the prophet also were and are hated …

may be i try to find explication logical to my situation but its seem that lead me to philosophie ?,

#2

I am re- reading Mary Shelley’s excellent work ‘Frankenstein’ and this post sounds exactly like the laments of the daemon of the novel (not to be mistaken for any of the campy hollywood versions).

It is a good question. One that many of us ask ouselves from time to time. ‘All is bad with me. Why does the universe hate me so?’. I don’t know the right answer, but I suspect it begins with self-acceptance. Afterall, if we do not love oursleves how can we expect others to love us?

#3

Learn to meditate Chamssou, learn to meditate.

#4

[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;42480]I am re- reading Mary Shelley’s excellent work ‘Frankenstein’ and this post sounds exactly like the laments of the daemon of the novel (not to be mistaken for any of the campy hollywood versions).

It is a good question. One that many of us ask ouselves from time to time. ‘All is bad with me. Why does the universe hate me so?’. I don’t know the right answer, but I suspect it begins with self-acceptance. Afterall, if we do not love oursleves how can we expect others to love us?[/QUOTE]

Good mrning

i ask my slef this question becoz i havnt in my live any succes , so i said may be is punishement divin …

#5

Chamssou stop beating your meat man .There is lots of girls out there wanking like you that are looking for man.Just open your eyes and go get them.Your bigest problem is self petty.And to get a girl you need to be a real man is like full time job. If you cant get a girl cant be a yogi.If someone said otherwize tell them that real yogis are lions not bunnys.lol

#6

Flex penguin good point yes start by loving yourself and find strenght in you.The rest is not been a P*** and do the job.

#7

teitan…Chamssou is no longer on forum

#8

[QUOTE=kareng;43112]teitan…Chamssou is no longer on forum[/QUOTE]

But, we can carry on the thread. This is common feeling - when the times are bad and we are in a low place, even despair, the tendency is to blame the gods/universe/fates, as if something is controlling our destiny externally.

I wonder why we, even those of us who have strengths in even times, find ourselves falling into the ‘blame god’ mode during the odd times.

How does one pull themselves out of that state? And, it has to better than “pull yourself up by your bootstraps, man!” or platitudes. One of the best ways I’ve found is focus on self-acceptance, which leads to self-love.

#9

Yes Flex, you are quite right!!! and it didnt occur to me that by saying that, I might be inferring end the thread…glad you pointed this out.

Have you ever seen the Film Hook? Its a great film about Peter Pan…anyway, theres a scene where the lost children stand there saying ‘I believe’ ‘I ’ believe’ (in Peter Pan in this) well whenever I see that film and it gets to that bit, I immediately relate to it in my head, and think of ‘I believe’ in the divine presence or God. I’m not searching for 'god to believe in…, only searching for permanent union via self correction, action. …My belief in a divine presence is unshakable for me, I have no doubt, ever, not even for a second. So, I cant fully join in on this thread, I also know there is no hate from that end as well.
Perhaps its confusing our own problems with thinking it is of ‘Gods’ doing? I know thats a common thing i’ve heard.

One of the best ways to be sure of ‘god’ is experiencing divine intervention, so practicing the right way, brings this about, otherwise it must feel at times maybe, like a blind faith with no proof. xxx

I was listening to this learned man in Hawaiian beliefs…he said that after Faith comes the hard bit, practice and discipline, he commented that we all have a hard time with this because it might be outside what we are used to, the effort etc. He said the rewards are the divine experiences within yourself . The divine in touch with you directly. I thought this was a great comment, and true…dont know what you might think on that.? x

Lastly how can the divine reach us if we have an array of clutter in our heads in the way, like a tank blocking a road.

#10

You’ve got me confused. I thought Buddhists don’t believe in God.

#11

[QUOTE=thomas;43138]You’ve got me confused. I thought Buddhists don’t believe in God.[/QUOTE]

Hi Thomas

I believe in a divine presence within us, a divine state, all perfect all knowing all mighty in love, compassion, in essence. You cannot describe God to me, no one can, If you say I believe in God, I will say I believe in the divine essence within us, the true self that is divine and of the divine essence. This what I’;m searching to encounter…I have no shred of doubt, I cant say that strongly enough
I think Ive already said to you Im studying Buddhism privately, I also believe in Buddha and Jesus in their teachings and recently, Patanjalis Yoga Sutra. Only learnt a bit so far. They are not to be dismissed as shouldn’t the other greats,

Ive always kept my spiritual practice simple but now I see I have more to understand, things that will ensure a uniting with the divine essence, of self…so I’m a learner still and will be until I attain this and I have every intension to do so and I’m sure at some point I will settle on one thing to follow with the wisdom of the others,so I’m not entirely ignorant about them. x

All I do know is the less activity in your mind, and being nice, in total, will bring about the vision of the inner guru, or virgin Mary etc etc…when that hppens it is perfection, a taste of the divine essence …but there are further subtle levels of the mind that I didn’t realise were there…Patanjali points these out and Buddhism does…probably others too .So Im a learner and a seeker.xx

#12

What is “divine essense”?

A contact with God? The indwelling of the Holy Spirit?

#13

At the moment there is one thing, one thing I know for sure and that is we have an inner director. This inner director is (for your purposes Thomas a partner to god, the divine essence.)
As I said in Is Yoga Hinduism thread, today, the inner director, inner guru, will present in human ethereal form that suits your beliefs.(with an exception that I put in that thread).[B]BUT[/B] your mind has to be in the right state to have the inner guru in ethereal human form, join you…this isnt to say it has to be there just in human ethereal form, it is there in any case for anyone…for you it may be the Virgin Mary, this is what is meant by someone having a vision of the Virgin Mary or a Saint or a Buddha etc etc these Visions are the inner guru. When this happens to you, there will never ever be any doubt in you, of for you, God and for me, the divine essence.
Its a profound spiritual experience.

Our minds most of the time are not working at the right frequency our minds create interference with the great divine source, God…(remember God cannot be defined)
There is a clear direction in Genesis with the story of eve eating from the tree of knowledge…I believe the word knowledge is incorrect, it should be the tree that leads to mind interference!..When you still the mind, in everyday life and maintain that stillness at every moment, then you are in communication with the inner Guru and in turn the divine essence… But there are subtle levels of mind interference that we all need to fully understand, this is what i’m interested in.

We and what we see around us are not what really is there…we ate from the tree of mind interference and by doing so restricted ourselves of divine perfection…x

#14

My director sometimes does not want to play my music.hahahaaa

#15

teitan…is it a trumpet:D

#16

lol .yeah my trumpet is to long for and creates problems with the orchestra space available.

#17

[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;43131]But, we can carry on the thread. This is common feeling - when the times are bad and we are in a low place, even despair, the tendency is to blame the gods/universe/fates, as if something is controlling our destiny externally.

I wonder why we, even those of us who have strengths in even times, find ourselves falling into the ‘blame god’ mode during the odd times.

How does one pull themselves out of that state? And, it has to better than “pull yourself up by your bootstraps, man!” or platitudes. One of the best ways I’ve found is focus on self-acceptance, which leads to self-love.[/QUOTE]

Why not eh?

A lot of people are too quick to blame God when they don’t get their own way…like a child blaming their mother (and not the dentist) because she refused to buy them a lollipop…

Just love God, no matter what…God’s love is totally unconditional towards us, so why should we not reciprocate that?

If you feel that God does not love you, it’s because you don’t love Him.
That sounds over simplistic, I know…

Just once…just one freaking time…sit down, close your eyes, forget about the world…about everything bad (or good)…and just open yourself up…like [B]totally[/B] let go…

Say, deep within your heart of hearts ‘you know God, I [I]really[/I] love you…I love you more than anything’ (and honestly mean it) then hit Him with everything you have…all the love that you possess…

I am not saying ‘meditate’ because that conjures up a degree of ‘navel gazing’. lol

If you are sincere and can do this, God will actually show you how much He loves [B]you.[/B]
Once that happens, there is absolutely no doubt about the relationship you have with God.

#18

I once had this question that I put to God, the divine…I asked for direction to an answer that I had been wondering about for a number of years. I was very serious about asking, it was quite literally a private serious conversation, I told God I needed proof as proof would sustain me. I explained to God that I am the sort of person that needs proof and was aware that others might not, but I do and did God understand this about me.

Later that week, i was in the local small Library, popped in to look at latest books in for my elderly mother.

Underneath the section a book was hanging out, near to fall. I picked it out,… it was about Ch’an Buddhism by Charles Luk…anyway I thought id read it… And, blow me down, the answer to the specifics of the question were there, the question was a difficult one regarding the inner guru. I hadn’t found any references to the particulars of my Question till that book which was spot on to my experience…and, haven’t found any since.

This was divine intervention.

#19

Once…when I was younger, I did a similar thing…

I felt that God had deserted me and I prayed for a ‘sign’…

I was also on my way to a job interview that same afternoon…next door to the place where I had the interview, there was an old church…

In front of that church, there was a sign…

It read:

‘This is a sign that God loves you…what more proof do you need?’

Coincidence? most definitely…but I love God’s little ‘coincidences’. :stuck_out_tongue:

#20

A Teitan,

If you cant get a girl cant be a yogi.If someone said otherwize tell them that real yogis are lions not bunnys.lol

Really? You can’t be serious here. If you were kidding, you only had to read Chamssou’s posts to see he didn’t need, nor would understand sarcasm or jokes.

If there is a God, he would never be a God of hate. Pure divine essence can only be love and joy. Hatred is manmade. It keeps darkness in ones life. Hatred is born out of ignorance. When we are ignorant we cannot see truth or reality.

We can choose whether to stay in the cycle of ignorance and hatred or accept who and what we are and then sow and water the seeds of kindness and compassion. Beauty is never outward appearance. It’s what is inside that matters most.

Again, the cycle needs to be broken.