Advanced yogi fellow, please explain me on the following matter…
Just read in Viki… : “Samkhya is an enumerationist philosophy that is strongly dualist. Samkhya denies the existence of God or any other exterior influence.”
What is then Isvara pranidhan in yoga sutras? if there is no isvara?
What then brought the universe to existence? What organized prakriti and purusha? What made an energy to manifest in to the works as we know it?
Yoga is a different philosophy from Samkhya, though it strongly borrows from Samkhya.
The criticisms you raise against Samkhya are valid. This is what I showed in the thread, “Emergent Ishvara vs Eternal Ishvara” and other Samkhya threads Asuri started. The philosophy is problematic without an Eternal ishvara to coordinate the purushas and the prakriti.
Samkhya is basically a reaction to Vedanta of the Upanishads. It had a problem with the concept of Brahman of Vedanta and the notion that all selves were just one supreme self, thus it rejected Brahman and any concept of god. However, its philosophy cannot work without admitting an eternal ishvara. And if it does admit an Ishvara there is no difference between it and Vedanta. Thus in later Samkhya philosophy we see the admittance of an emergent ishvara, but basically this creates more problems than it solves.
Thanks…not sure what you mean by criticism.
anyways, these are just texts…not and empirical things…but show very well that philosophy is a mess that never ends;P
can you please give me the link to “Emergent Ishvara vs Eternal Ishvara”
are all upanishads samkhya?
http://www.yogaforums.com/forums/f20/emergent-versus-eternal-9181.html
What is then Isvara pranidhan in yoga sutras? if there is no isvara?
What then brought the universe to existence? What organized prakriti and purusha? What made an energy to manifest in to the works as we know it?
Exactly, this is a common criticism of Samkhya. There is nothing in Samkhya that can explain how the universe was brought into being, what is the organizing power that is coordinating both prakriti and purusha. Hence in to answer this question Vedanta answers god is the first cause of the universe, god is the organizing power coordinating prakriti and purusha.
Philosophy is not an endless pursuit, it can lead to definite and practical conclusions. One definite and practical conclusion of Samkhya philosophy is Yoga.
Not all Upanishads are Samkhya, Samkhya features more predominantly in the Shvetashvatara upanishad.
so…as I understood that all Yogas originated from Samkhya philosophy… which denies existence of god or any other higher power… thus god question is not a yoga question…? Bhakti yoga is yoga of devotion…devotion to what?..