What is God to you?

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#121

[QUOTE=Nobody;43529][B]To me, God is everything that I am not[/B]…

Sort of the exact opposite of ‘neti neti’…(I tried empirical reductionism and that did not work)…lol

From my understanding, God is genderless, but for sake of argument, I will say ‘He’.

He is the lightning during a thunder storm…
He is the sound of deafening thunder…
He is the rain that nourishes all living things…
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Does he cease to be the water that falls as precipitation after you somehow ingest it?

He is the sun that shines through the clouds…
He is the clouds that obscures the sun…
He is the moon that shines at night…
He is all the stars too…
[B]He is in every animal and person…[/B]

Contradiction

He makes things live, breathe and grow…
He is in the earth…in all the trees and plants…
He is the scent of a beautiful flower…
He is the pungent odor of obnoxious weeds…
He rides like foam on the ocean waves…
He lives in the depths of the ocean with all the fish…
He makes all the hills and mountains…
He folds the earth…
He is love…
He is beauty…
He is truth…
He is absolutely everything and
He is also in my heart.

More contradiction

yeah, I know Science explains all that, but God made Science to explain it all :stuck_out_tongue:

After all that, would you really limit God to exist everywhere except where you believe that “you” begin? :wink:

#122

God is sole creator and controller of our world. I do like to think about God in my spare time. He is helping me in hard times when I need him so I do thank him for that.

#123

[QUOTE=Davidhop;47191]God is sole creator and controller of our world. I do like to think about God in my spare time. He is helping me in hard times when I need him so I do thank him for that.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, thats nice x

#124

My views on God are like a mix of Advaita, Islamic, and Deistic conceptions.

#125

My view on god: god does not exist.

The divine exists. See if you can spot the difference :wink:

#126

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;47282]My view on god: god does not exist.

The divine exists. See if you can spot the difference ;)[/QUOTE]

I think I see it. God = human construct/Christian “God” :D. Divine = something beyond our notions.

#127

Got it in one go. You’re a sharp cookie Nietzche :smiley:

#128

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;47286]Got it in one go. You’re a sharp cookie Nietzche :D[/QUOTE]

W00t! :D.

#129

God and the divine are both human constructs silly billys

#130

[QUOTE=kareng;47291]God and the divine are both human constructs silly billys[/QUOTE]

No no, think about it again.

#131

Yes I have and both are human constructs, both have a human label, by saying the divine is something beyond our notions…is a human construct.

#132

[QUOTE=kareng;47297]Yes I have and both are human constructs, both have a human label, by saying the divine is something beyond our notions…is a human construct.[/QUOTE]

I know what you are trying to say. And I am not sure how to explain my thoughts to you.

#133

How is the divine a human construct? That man one day wakes up and invents the concept of divine? If he did, then it was already within his nature to think of such a concept.

Try to look at it historically kareng. We were once just amobea floating in a puddle somewhere, then we started to evolve gradually and become fish, then land-mammals and then apes and then humans. At what point did the the dumb ape creature, struggling against the mercies of nature, hunting and gathering for its food, say, “DIVINE” and how would they come up with this concept?

Studies have shown that this concept of divine is actually natural and innate and children are born with it. Even the dumb ape creature had it. Therefore it is not a human construct, but a fact of human nature.

#134

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;47299]How is the divine a human construct? Then man one day wake up and invent the concept of divine? If he did, then it was already within his nature to think of such a concept.

Try to look at it historically kareng. We were once just amobea floating in a puddle somewhere, then we started to evolve gradually and become fish, then land-mammals and then apes and then humans. At what point did the the dumb ape creature, struggling against the mercies of nature, hunting and gathering for its food, say, “DIVINE” and how would they come up with a a concept?

Studies have shown that this concept of divine is actually natural and innate and children are born with it. Even the dumb ape creature was had it. Therefore it is not a human construct, but a fact of human nature.[/QUOTE]

There we go. I was trying to say how the divine was somehow “outside” of “us,” so to speak, despite what we may “think” of it. But you said it better than I.

#135

But God is a representation of it. You call it divine, Thomas will call it God. You have steps towards the divine, Thomas has steps towards God, they are the same goal

#136

No, I am recognising that the divine exists but that divine is beyond our concepts and descriptions. As all concepts and descriptions rely on finite things. Nobody can describe the infinite, but they sure can recognise the existence of the infinite. Thomas, on the other hand worships a concept created by humans of god, where god talks to people, gives people orders, gets jealous and angry and selects chosen ones. By definition Thomas’s god is a false god - simply the imagination of a desert people. No more credible than the tooth fairy or santa clause.

#137

yes but these Catholics, throughout their history have experienced divine experiences despite the facts you state so the two unite down the line…

#138

[QUOTE=kareng;47314]yes but these Catholics, throughout their history have experienced divine experiences despite the facts you state so the two unite down the line…[/QUOTE]

Or so they claim. And so did (supposedly) Protestants and Mormons.

#139

well then? doesn’t that say that their god worked for them. If it is in one to have a propensity to know the divine then we will find a way, and all faiths have people within them who experience the divine using their gods. Take away the liars and you will still have a percentage that sincerely experience the same level as a Hindu might etc etc etc

#140

Almost all mystics from every religion and tradition have said that the divine is indescribable, beyond words, descriptions, infinite etc

On the other hand, false religions do try to describe divine. They create a concept called “god” and then give this god attributes and form, personalitiy, history and put words into god’s mouth. This is certainly false, for it is all just human imagination. Why is it anymore valid than the tooth fairy or santa claus?

Why should we give the Abrahamic scriptures anymore credibility than Harry Potter?