What to do with the heat generated by merging Prana and Apana?

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#1

Hi everyone,

I’ve learnt how to merge prana and apana at the navel to generate heat. I’ve also read that this heat can awaken Kundalini.

Do I have to take this heat down to muladhara somehow? Or should I just remain at manipura trying to feel more and more heat until it reaches muladhara on its own? Is it even necessary for the heat to reach muladhara directly?

I’ve generally been taking the heat down to muladhara, and applying mulabandha to draw the energy up my spine, but haven’t found a way of getting the heat down there that I’m quite happy with yet. If this is the right thing to do, I’d like to hear any pointers you may have - specifically the route you use to take it down (e…g straight down from the navel, down the spine via swadisthana, down the front of the body).

Thanks a lot,
Harry

#2

[QUOTE=boosh;35041]Hi everyone,

I’ve learnt how to merge prana and apana at the navel to generate heat. I’ve also read that this heat can awaken Kundalini.

Do I have to take this heat down to muladhara somehow? Or should I just remain at manipura trying to feel more and more heat until it reaches muladhara on its own? Is it even necessary for the heat to reach muladhara directly?

I’ve generally been taking the heat down to muladhara, and applying mulabandha to draw the energy up my spine, but haven’t found a way of getting the heat down there that I’m quite happy with yet. If this is the right thing to do, I’d like to hear any pointers you may have - specifically the route you use to take it down (e…g straight down from the navel, down the spine via swadisthana, down the front of the body).

Thanks a lot,
Harry[/QUOTE]

In this instance Its not the action of the heat that directly awakens the so called Kundalini Shakti.

Its the resultant condition of the body by using the heat that lays the stable ground so to speak for the eventual “FULL BLOWN GET UP AND GO”

If your trying to move the fire around I’d study up on the subtle channel system, and practice body scan to get a feel for how the prana travels.

it is the prana that moves the fire around.

Prana follows mind.

The Fire can get stuck.

You should be very familiar with the locks and the actions of the mudras.

And Very skilled at the finer points of inhalation, retention, and exhalation.

It is both a science and an art.

#3

Hello Harry & Welcome to the forum,Thanks for posting,

Do I have to take this heat down to muladhara somehow? Or should I just remain at manipura trying to feel more and more heat until it reaches muladhara on its own? Is it even necessary for the heat to reach muladhara directly?

I’m curious Where you get or got this idea of bringing heat down to muladhara? Intuition perhaps? Excess heat pooling in one point or area perhaps?

What i do is generally-speaking is aim to open up the chakaras in asccending order and balance the channels.

Burn away and dissolve impurities in agni,open up and purify the nadis.

I think the Kundalini can be a bit like a roman candle when & if you are ready to go off,especially when manipura gets involved in on the act… It is exciting stuff for sure.

#4

Thanks for your reply.

I know how to move prana, etc, and am reasonably skilled at the other things you mention.

Do you know where I need to take the heat/how to “use it” as you say?

Thanks

#5

[QUOTE=boosh;35054]Thanks for your reply.

I know how to move prana, etc, and am reasonably skilled at the other things you mention.

Do you know where I need to take the heat/how to “use it” as you say?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Yes. There are many uses.

But I’m not saying what they are.

#6

@core789

I’ve been reading “Serpent Power” by Sir John Woodroffe. It’s not clear (hence my question) whether the heat is to be taken to muladhara:

The natural course of the Apana is downwards, but by contraction at the Muladhara it is made to go upwards through the Susumna when it meets Prana. When the latter Vayu (Prana) reaches the region of fire below the navel, the fire becomes bright and strong, being fanned by Apana. The heat in the body then becomes very powerful, and Kundalini, feeling it, awakes from Her sleep. […] Then it enters Susumna.

But Yogi Bhajan (not allowed to post the URL - google for the quote below to find the source) suggests it does descend:

After one inhales the prana deep (down to the navel point) and pulls the apana with root lock (up to the navel point), prana and apana mix at the navel centre. This is known as Nabhi Chakra or Fourth Vertebra. Heat is felt during the Kundalini awakening and that heat is the filament of the Sushumana or central spinal channel being lit by the joining of prana and apana. Below the Nabhi chakra, the energy leaves the navel and goes to the rectum (or lower centre) and then it rises. This is called Reserve Channels. It relates to your Astral Body.

#7

[QUOTE=The Scales;35055]Yes. There are many uses.

But I’m not saying what they are.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Anyone else?

#8

The belly fire has nothing to do with the actual process of awakening the Kundalini SHakti in the Zip. Get and Go Fashion.

Belly fire will help to purify…

You don’t need to do mulabandha or Jalandhara Bhanda to stoke the fire.

Ashwini mudra. Concentration. Proper breath. will do it just as well and easily.

There are people who write things without really understanding them. Or they write them as a ruse - to the uninitated. or they write them with alterior motives.

#9

Well i’ve been working on the manipura chakra myself lately. I did’nt know it was the fourth vertebrae.

Yes i have that book in question.

Apana & prana merging at the navel point on a deep inhale followed by kumbhaka along the front channels of body is one of the techniques i’m familiar with to awaken manipura.

The heat often sounds like often to me like the burning away of impurites to me mainly as a result of agni,digestive fire.As a result the nadis and prana can flow more freely. The mind is clearer and so on. The quotes you have posted certainly do support each other.I have’nt really given that book any serious study as there’s a lot in it but it doess seem to talk about laya yoga alot.

#10

That’s interesting you say that.I’ve experienced belly fire after agnisara kriya.I do think you can use very subtle practices though to get things moving,& make the connections.Less is often more.

Some techniques rather than every possible kind.

#11

I generate this heat you talk about quite effortlessly by breathing into the abdomen and then applying mulabhanda and lifting the energy into the abodmen.

Now my question is what is it for?

#12

[QUOTE=The Scales;35058]The belly fire has nothing to do with the actual process of awakening the Kundalini SHakti in the Zip. Get and Go Fashion.

Belly fire will help to purify…

You don’t need to do mulabandha or Jalandhara Bhanda to stoke the fire.

Ashwini mudra. Concentration. Proper breath. will do it just as well and easily.

There are people who write things without really understanding them. Or they write them as a ruse - to the uninitated. or they write them with alterior motives.[/QUOTE]

I find that for my first session of the day mulabandha and jalandhara bandha help to make the initial connection. After that has happened I can ease off and apply a light mulabandha or ashwini mudra along with correct concentration and breathing, and I can feel the heat at will.

I have followed some Taoist practices, and they place a large emphasise on the union of prana and apana and the resultant heat (Lesser Kan & Li as they call it). Unfortunately the way I was taught, this was the practice - it wasn’t taught as a precursor to meditation. As a result I think I place a little too much emphasise on pranayama, and not enough on meditation itself.

So would a reasonable approach be to circulate the heat for 10-20 minutes before meditating for say half an hour?

Thanks for all the replies so far…

#13

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;35067]I generate this heat you talk about quite effortlessly by breathing into the abdomen and then applying mulabhanda and lifting the energy into the abodmen.

Now my question is what is it for?[/QUOTE]

Try it just with ashwini mudra instead of mulabhanda. and use your concentration. Breath into the lower abdomen keep mind in the lower abdomen. without using muscles…

its easier.

By using more force ( a combination of factors ) . . . perhaps . . . you can really get it roaring!!!

Everyone and I mean everyone can do this. Everyone has the little digestive fire going. Everybody.

You bring more “AIR” to the fire and it will get bigger and Hotter. A H LA LA !!!

It helps if your chilly. :cool:

#14

[QUOTE=boosh;35073]I find that for my first session of the day mulabandha and jalandhara bandha help to make the initial connection. After that has happened I can ease off and apply a light mulabandha or ashwini mudra along with correct concentration and breathing, and I can feel the heat at will.

I have followed some Taoist practices, and they place a large emphasise on the union of prana and apana and the resultant heat (Lesser Kan & Li as they call it). Unfortunately the way I was taught, this was the practice - it wasn’t taught as a precursor to meditation. As a result I think I place a little too much emphasise on pranayama, and not enough on meditation itself.

So would a reasonable approach be to circulate the heat for 10-20 minutes before meditating for say half an hour?

Thanks for all the replies so far…[/QUOTE]

The heat is part of the meditation is it not? You breathe during the meditation do you not? Your meditation is the pranayama so to speak.

What are you doing this for?

To awaken kundalini?

Won’t work for that but . . . it will purify…laying the stable ground. So yes, I guess in a sense it can awaken Kundalini. But the Action of the heat itself is not the method to get her up like Zip boom Bam.

no i will not give out the method…

When the time is correct it will come to all who are ready.

If you would like to be a block headed fool please by all means - go right ahead. But you’ll be sorry.

ala gopi krishna

whos book i haven’t read . . .

#15

[QUOTE=The Scales;35076]
Won’t work for that but . . . it will purify…laying the stable ground. So yes, I guess in a sense it can awaken Kundalini. But the Action of the heat itself is not the method to get her up like Zip boom Bam.

no i will not give out the method…

When the time is correct it will come to all who are ready.
[/QUOTE]

That’s fair enough. I just want to make sure I’m heading down the right path.

Thanks

#16

[QUOTE=boosh;35080]That’s fair enough. I just want to make sure I’m heading down the right path.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

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