Accidental Kundalini awkening

Spirituality
#1

Hello I’ve never posted here before I’ve never done yoga I apologize in advance if I posted in the wrong section and if so please point me in the right direction. I’ve always meditated and done martial arts but I’ve done more meditating lately and today a switched just flipped and my whole body has been on fire for about 2hrs I’ve calmed down and feel pretty normal. This seems to be a controlled state I can go into and out of and raise and lower energy levels. everything is really loud anyway and some things smell really bad but thats about it. My question is

a. is this real has anyone experienced this

b. what do I do now what do I read how to proceed really.

I’m really serious does anyone know of this does this happen to people. I really would appreciate any help anyone could give. I understand it’s late. I have no instructor or even any of the martial artist I train with that do yoga around. I live in the woods and there is no one here now and I am super confused. Again thank you.

#2

I guess no one knows what to say. I’m going to keep meditating only limit to twice a day and for no longer than an half hour. I can honestly see how you could lose yourself if your not careful. I don’t study yoga I don’t know what any of this is and I didn’t ask for it. Regardless it’s happening and I need help please.

#3

Be patient someone will reply who may be able to help you x

Which woods doi you live in? I’m curious? Sorry I cant offer any help

#4

Hi and welcome!

You’re description is too brief, try detailing it.

Are you sure it’s a K awakening?

In that case have a look to Gopi Krishna’s books, they teach how to handle uncontrolled K awakenings.

Waiting for your reply.

#5

An occurrence like this needs someone to help you on one-on-one basis and I am sure you will find help soon. Your description is brief and a possible gap between what you experienced and what you ‘think’ you experienced, makes it very difficult to make any firm prognosis.
Having said that let me offer you some speculation based on my experience. Kundalini is no doubt power, but there is associated intelligence of its own. Any powers that awaken by spiritual practices (call it ?yoga? or by any other name or no name) are designed to foster further spiritual practice. At worst, one may stay lured by the powers and forget the path. But unless one seeks powers by eccentric methods and for their own sake, they would hardly be destructive.
Kundalini can be awakened when the spiritual legacy of earlier lives suddenly resumes. But such individuals are very few. For the most of us, only a systematic purification process makes that happen. But, many drastic changes happen before that. One of them is the purification of prana energy and unification of five vayus in the body. The emotional swings caused by a material life creates knots (blockages) in the energy flows that are networked all over the body. Purification dissolves these knots, and blocked energy suddenly surges from there. Perhaps this is what happened to you.
The control you seem to have on this energy surge is understandable. Mind is a form of prana energy and any time you ?think? of the surge, mind gets engaged there to repeat the experience.
Another possibility is that it wasn?t energy but body?s retaliation. The cell level bio-physiological changes that spiritual practices bring about aren?t easy to come without a rebellion. A heightened sexual urge, tremors, temporary recklessness etc are commonly experienced by many practitioners in the early stages. Spiritual path is certainly not a bed of roses.
You say you have never done yoga. What you mean perhaps is that you have never done asanas (body postures). This in fact is your opportunity to learn what yoga really is and how you were unknowingly in yoga while meditating. This incident may be an invitation to spirituality.
To start with, please read ‘An autobiography of a yogi’ by Paramhansa Yogananda and learn asana (not for “doing” yoga, but for “being” in yoga.)

#6

Thank you. I honestly don’t know. Many things seem to be leading up to this. I’ve always meditated and knew I had energy. I started learning a new language and playing a new instrument. I got very sick and eventually started meditating to eliminate pain during this time I noticed you could spread this from your self to others not pain elimination but just positive energy. I started using it for training people used to laugh cause they would almost wake me up when it was my turn. Also I started to meditate before I would go to sleep it feels like I’m asleep but conscious for about 15 to 20 minutes afterward. The last 2 days I started listening to binaural beats during meditation I eventually resolve to continue training martial arts because my whole life it has felt like what I was made to do. That night I go to sleep with some lucid dream track on. The dream is about the one person that wronged me and it shows them in a new light. They where really wrong so wrong in the logical part of my head it still tells me hey knee cap’m. But the feeling is just not there. Later that day I exercise after which I listen to 528 mhz beat during meditation. in the caption it says hum or sing along and having a good ear i do I mimick this sound. I notice the whole time my brain loves the sound and as I start to hum it my eyes close and boom. It feels like a river of blood is on my skin I turn flushed and my body heat starts going up and up to the point where my nose is running cause it melted whatever was in there. I started to feel not in my head was worried I would hear or see things not there. so I decided this was dangerous and I should learn something about what was really going on. I honestly never thought of yoga but it reminded me of the monks who dry sheets so that’s where I started but soon realized that yoga has way more information. The heat is pretty much less and I woke up feeling 15 again. It’s not that everything is loud it just feels like I can hear everything. I don’t know what else to say if you have any questions feel free ask and I 'll try to answer them. Thank you so much.

#7

hmmmmmmm…

?Are you using a kind of electronic device for meditation?

#8

Yeah I started leaving my mp3 player on alot so after I listened to about 25000 songs I got bored and wanted to learn a language. So I started playing guitar while listening to these Japanese language courses and playing video games. The Japanese started to bother me so after a while I stopped it. So then I switched to binaural beats my brain loved it and I started listening to the 528 by itself while meditating then because I play the guitar I could match the tune and I started humming it. From the japanese I learned that the left and right side of you brain are different ears so I just took the beat in my ears and made it one sound kinda like looking at one of those pictures you have to stare at and then suddenly it becomes clear. So I learned to mimic the sound with a ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm like chant and I don’t need the head phones anymore.

#9

Panoramix, for clarity:

Binaural beats or binaural tones are auditory processing artifacts, or apparent sounds, the perception of which arises in the brain for specific physical stimuli. This effect was discovered in 1839 by Heinrich Wilhelm Dove, and earned greater public awareness in the late 20th century based on claims that binaural beats could help induce relaxation, meditation, creativity and other desirable mental states. The effect on the brainwaves depends on the difference in frequencies of each tone, for example, if 300 Hz was played in one ear and 310 in the other, then the Binaural beat would have a frequency of 10 Hz

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

Personally, I have found the topic very intriguing, but am extremely reluctant to start playing around with my brain functioning without feeling extremely comfortable with whoever created the tapes and knowing they are fully aware that it is safe and/or they fully disclose what results one can expect.

#10

ndrew:

Do you consume or have consumed drugs?
Have you been to a physician?

#11

I smoke marijuana but I have for my entire adult life with no adverse effects. in fact I’ve only had problems with prescription drugs. Honestly I had a medical condition that went undiagnosed for about 2 yrs. This caused chronic pain so I started to meditate and try to radiate or resonate or what ever because this positive feeling would make the pain go away I suffered like that for about 3yrs
I practiced eventually I got pretty good but pretty good was like one day here or there but eventually I got like almost 200 good days in row I learned how to control my emotional state at this time.

I went to the er so much one doctor literally pointed and laughed at me to another. Eventually I was institutionalized. I honestly considered the possibility I could be crazy but my hair kept falling out. So after doing some research I went to my doctor and said I believe prolonged use of proton pump inhibitors caused a candida infection in my body. He looked at me and said yeah I almost killed him he then wrote me a prescription. but I was still sick… so eventually I resolved that martial arts might help cure me so I took them up and decide to try to pursue it as a career. which brings me to the point in the last year I’ve been sanctioned to cage fight by a boxing commission. So yes I am healthy on top of that I haven’t trained for about six months so no one has hit me in the head or anything. Also up until now my life has really been an endless string of medical test from catscans to echo cardio to test for stds so I really don’t know what to think. To be honest I’m just kinda freaked out I don’t do yoga I’m a atheist. I’m very logical person I think zodiac signs are gay. I just looked at all the types of meditation and this seemed to happen to people who do yoga so here I am that and while it was happening sitting like in the pictures helped. like when I turn my palms up they feel better. Anyway thank you so much for anything really.

#12

I don’t want to offend anyone but I’m asking a serious question when you start asking me about medical history and my use of drugs I understand your skepticism but can we please continue the discussion because this is not a joke. I’ve meditated my whole life and after several years of pain and suffering and near death experiences I came to the realization that the purpose of this life is to spread joy and love this allowed me to over come moderate to intense levels of pain. I did this everyday for about 4 years. Yesterday my body start to produce intense heat while meditating I honestly don’t know what this was it is still here. If you want know what it was like it was the difference between knowing what electricity is and actually being electrocuted if I had to describe it. Yoga has more information on meditation than anything else I think this is a good place to start. I’m sorry if I assumed this was a kundalini awakening I don’t know what it was but as far as alter states of consciousness I only heard of tommo meditation and this causing such an effect.

My apology in advance if I’m being forward but I am honestly here for help for this not for drug counseling I’m sorry we don’t share the same opinion and I thank you for just for responding. If in the practice of yoga the use of marijuana can inhibit this process than forgive for my ignorance as it would render this a non-possibility. Just the same I hope we can continue this conversation and move forward. I would honestly just like help free of judgment or the implication that I’m under the effect of “drugs”. If I am just a fool then help me anyway. Oh I live in rhode island thank you for writing.

#13

ndrew,

I’ve had a couple of scary things happen to me during medtation. My response was to just stop doing the things that caused the scariness to happen. I don’t know what happened to you, I’ve never experienced anything like it. If it’s freaking you out, just stop what you’re doing.

One thing I will add is that my job for seven years was tuning pianos. Thanks to Joanna63 I realize that binaural beats are what we aural tuners use to tune pianos. If you listen to two notes played together you get beats, and as the two notes come closer to being in tune, the beats slow down and eventually stop. At other times, you listen for specific frequencies of beats, in order to tune intervals. I did this all day, every day for seven years, and it didn’t hurt me.

Base on my experience I would say that the beats are not only heard but felt within the body, although this is very subtle. I have no idea what the effect on the mind would be, except that listening to a steady binaural beat for no particular reason would probably make me crazy within a very short time.

#14

Hello ndrew:

Don’t get me wrong, I have no stupid prejudices against drugs, nor do I think you’re a fool or your experiences are drug induced. I just considered that identifying all involved factors could be pertinent, if not mandatory. Drugs and spiritual practices are an explosive cocktail, IMO they shouldn’t be mixed in the absence of a experienced teacher/master/shaman.

Your medical history sounds really confusing, could you tell me what pathologies you have been diagnosed?

Hey, and don’t apologize, we’re here for trying to help you. :slight_smile:

#15

panoramix thank you for helping me honestly. I had the wrong impression. I was wrong. Um I’ll write in detail about my medical problems if need be because it’s been going on for 5 yrs. But the long and short of it is um I was trying to kill myself for a few months so I had a lot of times where I would take all the drugs I could find and play the maybe I wake up maybe I don’t game. So I developed stomach ulcers. For the next 2 yrs I took a class of prescription drug called proton pump inhibitors which reduce your stomach’s production of acid. I took these for about 2 years because I was in horrible pain most of the time. I went to my doctor told him I was still very much in pain and asked him how long I could take these pills without adverse effect. He responded indefinitely. Over time this decreased production of stomach acid resulted in the development of a candida infection which I then informed him. The doctor gave me more pills which did not get rid of the infection. So I tried oregano oil which does work great and every thing else but nothing got rid of it. I’ve been a 150#'s of body fat. So I started training Brazilian jujitsu in hopes that sweating off 2lbs a day would clean out my body. Again nothing. Candida is just kind of a grey area that doctors don’t know about in fact I would still be going crazy if my doctor didn’t acknowledge it. I’ve meditated my whole life but I’ve pretty much had to deal with one form of pain or another everyday for 5 yrs so that made sure I meditated. I don’t know what’s going on but that warmth is still there and if I meditate for long enough I can go back there but I honestly don’t think I will until I learn more. The odd thing is now that I think about it I’ve been kinda falling into meditation. Kinda of like driving but with anything cooking work whatever sometimes for 20-30 minutes. Thank you I feel I’m in the right place.

#16

Ok. So stomach issues.

Have you made the Helicobacter Pylori breath test? Ulcers are in the majority of cases caused by a bug, it can be killed through antibiotics. That’s how I healed my stomach ulcer three years ago.

Besides, there are means for keeping acidity at bay. I used to consume a proton inhibitor (omeprazol) but gave it up (don’t like chemicals). Four glasses of lukewarm water every morning is what really works with me.

My dad is a doctor, I’ll ask him what to do against candida infection.

And as to hemp: Do you smoke just before meditating? How frequently do you smoke?

Do you consume LSD, XTC, GHB, crystal… ?

#17

As far as hard drugs I’ve done acid twice ectasy twice blown coke maybe 5 times. But all in all that’s over my entire life and none within 6 years. I’ve never used drugs for any spiritual practice. They have always been recreational and I’ve always been aware of the effects. I smoke all day long as rhode island is a medicinal state but after whatever happened happened it’s made smoking trivial. I had smoked twice yesterday and not at all today and last night I had another lucid dream this time without any music or anything just my tv on. Also no I’ve never had that kind of test and the ulcers no longer hurt. Really the candida has been the source of most of my pain.

I’d like to preface this by saying I don’t know what happened to me I don’t really care now as I dont’ seem to be in danger of losing my mind immediately (hence the provocative title). I don’t make claim to anything and I’m not here to get in a spiritual pissing contest because if I’ve gotten anywhere I’m sure someone else has gotten farther I’ve started reading works by gopi not because I think I have super powers or anything but he seems to see the problem with a society that spends 40 hrs a week in school and 1 hr in church (I am an atheist). it’s funny because the books he dictated are written in such a way as to be read at high speed. The creepy thing is earlier this month I had a discussion with a friend about the feminist movement. I theorized that the feminist movement of the 60’s and 70’s had removed an essential component from human development a mothers love. The result of which has lead to a society full of amoral people. They only understand negative reinforcement. Everyone here has been very helpful and I can tell everyone I’ve spoken to cares about me. Thank you.

#18

Hello Ndrew,

Sometimes on an Internet forum people get a bit loosey goosey with replies. On this particular board it doesn’t happen very often, though on others I have seen it and it is rampant.

Second, many of the members here are not sitting idly by waiting for a new post. They have lives (or so I hope) and jobs, and other things to attend to on their respective paths. So patience with reply is warranted (here) and if a person doesn’t have something to offer - as I don’t on about half of the posts, then not responding IS responding.

It is, to my way of thinking, completely appropriate to have a more robust intake on a person with an issue like the one you outline. Simply stating your having an experience AND asking for direction places respondents at a disadvantage as they do not know you and cannot see you.

For example, what I would advise a healthy 22 year-old would not be the same as what I would advise a sedentary 55 year-old.

As for the energy you are experiencing, it is not for others to tell you if it is real or not. If you are experiencing it then it is your experience, period. Kundalini rising in a beginning student is rare, though it can happen and it is, from all sources I’ve been exposed to, incredibly powerful and not desirable (for a beginner unskilled in coping with a set of unprepared nerves).

I personally would not try to replicate it and I would also mention that the cultivation(s) in martial arts are not akin to yoga. Chi is not prana and cultivating a fighting force in the dan tien is not a purpose of yoga. Therefore while I may be able to give you rudimentary direction for the yoga practice I cannot at all determine what is going on with the addition of other practices - in this case martial arts.

#19

I understand completely. I didn’t mean to be impatient. But to be honest I needed help then and there. If someone can’t answer a question on a forum in the middle of the night I understand I just didn’t know what to do. Also this is probably the most well mannered internet forum ever I’d like to thank you all(especially for tolerating my punctuation).

InnerAthlete I misunderstood panoramix and I said in plain English I was wrong. You have to realize I’ve never done yoga I’ve never known anything out side of the physical realm of yoga chakras reincarnation and everything seemed silly to me 3 days ago.I’m a very logical person and I kinda have to eat crow now this experience has caused me to question every truth I’ve known. For all intensive purposes Jesus may as well have knocked on my front door 3 days ago. I hope this doesn’t offend anyone but this is my introduction to yoga. Other than this I knew people turned the heat up and did a stretchy thingy. Upon further investigation it appears as a method for people to attempt to unify mind body and soul with the natural order and I respect all of you very much for that.

I wasn’t concerned with the question I was concerned with the response or lack of responses I would get following. I know less about yoga than everyone else here. It would be very easy for people to discredit me as an idiot on drugs and then in order drop large nuggets of yogi knowledge on my head. I apologize if I was forward but I honestly believe this board may have a wealth of knowledge to offer. I really want any advice anyone has to share positive or negative I just don’t want “get off drugs” or “go to a shrink” or a moderator to lock it because it’s gotten ridiculous. I don’t mean this as a retort. I merely would like to give you insight into my actions. If you still think I was rude I ask you to forgive me and I’ll do better next time. I’d really rather be friends with everyone here.

my experience was well I don’t know. but to be honest after looking on the internet I saw the way people threw around this word that represents a sacred spiritual event. I didn’t like it so I guess it made me read what I wrote from that perspective. In retrospect I can say yeah this or that was a symptom but it could or couldn’t of been. Yeah I had tremors and other small symptoms but other stuff bothers me my attention span is like 7-8 hours now almost double what it was a few months ago. personally I would like to know what happened so if anyone knows a good yoga instructor in rhode island please let me know. The only reason I’m here is because this happened and if I’m wrong or misguided I really would rather not waste everyone’s time. I need to find a good instructor and figure out what is going on but I’d like to thank everyone for helping get this far.

#20

A very detailed description of many types of manifestations of uncontrolled Kundalini events as well as techniques to control them can be found in the book “Kundalini tantra” from the famous Bihar yoga school in India: ISBN 81-85787-15-8. In the absence of an experienced teacher in your neighbourhood this book may clarify a lot of things to you. At least it did for me.