[QUOTE=AmirMourad;57594]Surya,
“Your actions say otherwise as you are constantly citing quotes and anecdotes from Zen”
I do not speak out of borrowed knowledge, but out of my own direct experience.
Anybody who is familiar with the traditions you often speak about can identify where you are getting your knowledge from. The scales called you a well-rehearsed parrot for a reason. We know you are very familiar with these traditions because you cite from quotes, anecdotes from them.
You will lose your knowledge one day because you have not acknowledged your sources. Karma has a sting in its tail. None of my knowledge is mine. I got my knowledge the same way you did - I just read better sources
You lack a single ounce of humility - you go around calling yourself enlightened and putting yourself on the same level of Buddha, recording yourself on youtube giving discouses, posting on internet forums shamelessly dropping links to your discourses, and looking for disciples to start your own cult. In addition you claim all other masters are liars.
I think only a fool would be taken in by you, and if they are taken in by you, then they deserve you
There is a reason Asuri said to you, “You sicken me” I am hope my dialogue with you being read by members here is showing others why somebody would think this of you.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with compassion, it is simply sentimentality. Compassion need not be that of a grandmotherly affection. It is simply an intelligence which is of such a quality, that it is willing to do whatever is necessary to assist others towards their liberation.
Sentimentality is different, it is when you indiscriminately become emotional based on their beliefs. Compassion is something that comes from within the soul, it is a strong force from within that directs you to serve another. Many good people here would have experienced what I said when ones tears well up in the eyes to help another and the tears of joy one feels when they succeed.
Any good person will resonate with me when I say that humanity is our wider self and we should serve one another. All swamis and gurus will agree with me.
You obviously have not felt any compassion for anybody. You confirm what I implied about you: you are a sociopath. Most fraudulent cult leaders are, this is why they defraud their followers. A good person cannot do such a thing, because they have a conscience.
It seems when you were reading my previous message you were not paying attention. There are countless methods to assist others towards their liberation, it need not take the form of teaching.
It is not just teaching my friend that enlightened people do. They help in social transformation. They put themselves out there, fight against evil, show by example to others how to live a life of dharma and inspire millions.
What are you doing? Recording yourself on youtube and going on internet forums to advertise yourself. I am more than convinced you suffer from narcissistic personality disorder.
So far you have not demonstrated even a particle of indication that you have understood a single word that I have said.
So far you have not provided an iota of evidence for your enlightenment However you have provided more than enough evidence that you are not enlightened: No siddhis. No humility. Violence to the tradition of masters before you by falsifying what they say and accusing them of being liars, your list includes Patanjali, Swami Vivekananda and Swami Yogananda. And telling people wanting to help others is just sentimentality. Including telling others their experiences are false(like my experience of telepathy) and yet teaching. Not to mention sociopathic tendencies where you claim a sage can also steal, lie and murder.
I said in another thread if you were in an Indian village where they take claims of people claiming to enlightened seriously, you would be beaten with sticks and driven out
I agree.
Then do something for your wider self.
Seeing the whole history of humanity, which seems to be filled with nothing else except violence upon violence, greed, hatred - I do certainly hope that you do not continue their work. And at the pace at which things are going, it seems that unless man comes to a transformation, extinction seems to be the only option left.
Humanity is a damn sight better today than it was hundreds of years ago. We have civil rights, human rights, womens rights, UN, Geneva conventions. The internet for free exchange of ideas and access to any information. Growing spirituality. There was a time when people like you would have been sent to the inqusition and burned at the stake - consider yourself lucky
“the debt to our parents, by looking after them in their old age as they did us”
Parents are tremendously egoistic in the sense that they are just interested in creating a mirror reflection of themselves. Rather than being concerned with your liberation, they are far more interested in raising the child to fulfill their own egotism. That is in fact the only reason why most parents “love” their child. It is not Love, it is just a certain identification of the mind which is rooted in attachment. Because they have identified you as “their son” or “their daughter”, there is a certain sense of attachment which grows. This is not love. Yes, perhaps one should have gratitude towards them for whatever they have done to assist you towards fulfilling your survival, but as far as your spiritual expansion is concerned, they have created more barriers than they have destroyed. If the parents of the society were more awake, more compassionate, less egoistic, and less territorial just like an animal, then it would be impossible for the society to have remained in the state that it has been for centuries.
I am starting to form a psychological profile of you know. Let’s see did you have problems with your parents growing up Amir No matter how your parents are, they fed you, clothed you, sheltered you, educated you. It is because of your parents that you grow up to be human and not just a dog. Thus you have a debt to pay back to them. In their old age, rather than throwing them into an old age home or leaving them on their own, which I know most Western civilisation does, you take them into your home and look after them ungreatful children
This is why I consider my Hindu dharma great. We are installed with values like respect parents, elderly and teachers. We touch the feet of our elders and ask for their blessings. This does not mean we blindly follow whatever they say, but we show respect. You have no respect whatsoever for the teachers you have plagiarised your knowledge from and passing it off as your own.
One either knows or does not know, there can be no room for belief.
Nah, it is definitely a belief. If it was real, you would have something to show for it.
Again, this shows that rather than having any sincere desire to understand what I have said, you have simply twisted the message according to your own prejudices. I have simply said that these siddhis do not indicate anything else except that certain aspects of one’s consciousness which were dormant have now become active. It does not mean that one is even a step closer to awakening, and there are those who have awakened siddhis who have remained as unconscious as they have always been. In fact, it is one’s entanglement in these siddhis which has often been a great cause for leading one towards a deeper and deeper unconsciousness - the possibility of becoming overwhelmed with egotism is immense.
My friend in order to activate siddhis dormant in ones conscousness, you need to first get to that unconscious level. This indeed means that you a step closer to enlightenment I will take the research done by millenias of consciousness researchers, including the great Patanjali and a century of modern scientific research over some self-professed Buddha that records himself giving discourses on youtube and then advertises himself on internet forums. I am sorry I am a man of science
master need not teach in order to assist others towards their liberation. My understanding of things is never in terms of absolutes. With every so called rule you can think of, you can find that there are more exceptions than one can care even to consider.
If a master does not go teach then that master is useless and we don’t need to know of such masters. Like I said, let such masters wallow in the goo of their enlightenment. This is no master, just an ego maniac wanting to feel better than everybody else. The true masters serve humanity. They not only care about their own development, but the development of humanity. This is because when you do reach enlightenment or at a very high level of spiritual attainment, you begin to see the all pervading sprit that animates you, animates you neighbour as well. Hence why we say “Namaste”