So we can establish that my experience is acceptable because it has been experienced by many others and is documented. Thanks SD X finally …
Who else had experienced your experience of the sunbathing ishvara little buddha sitting in lotus Karen and where has it been documented 
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;47845]Who else had experienced your experience of the sunbathing ishvara little buddha sitting in lotus Karen and where has it been documented ;)[/QUOTE]
The sun part is my personal observation I made of the human representation of Ishvara…your not in some kind of mesmerizing state when this happens…you have perfect sense and can watch and note what is going on, eyes open etc…as for the documentation, you could try Charles Luk on Ch’an meditation…same guy who translated part of the Surangama Sutra…a master explains it in the book…you can also ask any Master of meditation about this… after over 40 years of meditation, I consider myself a little bit of an expert, I think that fair to say after so long…I am telling you facts…the sun is of major importance in its part in meditation, this much I know…,Ishvara recognises sun as important…Ishvara cant wait for you to look towards the sun and comes forward immediately when you do look…the best time to seek Ishvara out is within a period of time before the sun sets.
Now go find a Master and ask…this is within Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism …Buddhism has references to it, I;m sure.
I met a guy a Buddhist from North West China a short while back who experienced it .
India will be full of people who understand this…a Raja Yoga Master understood this as well when it was conveyed to him…you have to develop a right mind to have the Guru in your presence…when your mind strays from rightness, your Guru goes from the Ajna active position back to the seated inner position.
now that is all I will say…you are wrong to not listen to what I’m telling you.
The Master was part of thr Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University Oxford…I believe it is a branch off Raja Yogs? I’m not sure as it was something someone did for me…but I’m sure they still exist and perhaps you can send my story to them as they appear to understand this fully…but I don’t expect you will but the information is there for starters!
The teachings of Buddha are centered towards the student having nothing in their minds including notions of what you think self is. …a notion of self can be muddled with the ego.
This is in response to the first few posts on this thread.
What facts do New Agers need to learn, what are the facts that fit a person into that label? Please list them.
now that is all I will say…you are wrong to not listen to what I’m telling you.
I simply do not accept you as reliable and credible sorry. So your personal experiences mean nothing to me at all. I personally think you are mistaking hallucinations for enlightenment. I cannot prove it though, but nor can you prove it to me. So end of discussion.
This is one of the most revealing answers you have given me Surya. What this reveals is that your knowledge of the practice of the faith you belong to, is limited. You are missing a vital link. Its the link that would take you on your mission you have spoken about with effectiveness.
To prove it you would have to be practicing towards it.
I think you like to talk about Hinduism.
[QUOTE=kareng;47986]This is one of the most revealing answers you have given me Surya. What this reveals is that your knowledge of the practice of the faith you belong to, is limited. You are missing a vital link. Its the link that would take you on your mission you have spoken about with effectiveness.
To prove it you would have to be practicing towards it.
I think you like to talk about Hinduism.[/QUOTE]
The same could be said of you.
Please find me the appropriate verses in Hindu texts where it asks us to tolerate subversion of our culture and the killing of Hindus for millennia. Please find the verses where it says to tolerate all this, especially in a world run by the very people who seek to undermine us.
Adopting your methods will produce the results that have been experiencing for Millenia and so it will go on and on…your going to make sure the cycle continues, so go ahead. It will come back to you, time and time again…
Face the facts: without western civilization and Christianity, India and the vast cultures if the world would still be wrangling on or near the stone age; living, fighting and dying under primitive tribalism.
For better or worse, none of us, including snotty overeducated hindu boys, would be on the Internet engaging in useless, time wasting debates.
[QUOTE=kareng;48013]Adopting your methods will produce the results that have been experiencing for Millenia and so it will go on and on…your going to make sure the cycle continues, so go ahead. It will come back to you, time and time again…[/QUOTE]
Lol, you really must be high on something. What are my methods? I have said, for the 5th time now, that I plan to intellectual undermine Christianity and Islam and raise awareness about their negative effects on the rest of the world. I do not plan to create violence. That would be a waste of time, money, and lives and be highly foolish.
I do not see how intellectual awareness can produce the same wretched results Christianity and Islam have throughout the ages. If my methods are successful, Christians, Muslims, and the West will reform themselves for the better. No lives lost. Just changed.
But of course, you will just ignore this and say the same thing. You were raised as a Christian and will obviously resist any tampering with your “superior” culture and religion (not to mention skin color), especially when it comes from a “pagan” or “kaffir.” So go ahead and resist, like the rest of America did when those “violent” abolitionists argued for the abolition of slavery. In the end, righteousness will prevail. In other words, Hindus like SD and I who seek to combat the subversion of our culture through a reformation of media and academia.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;48032]Lol, you really must be high on something. What are my methods? I have said, for the 5th time now, that I plan to intellectual undermine Christianity and Islam and raise awareness about their negative effects on the rest of the world. I do not plan to create violence. That would be a waste of time, money, and lives and be highly foolish.
I do not see how intellectual awareness can produce the same wretched results Christianity and Islam have throughout the ages. If my methods are successful, Christians, Muslims, and the West will reform themselves for the better. No lives lost. Just changed.
But of course, you will just ignore this and say the same thing. You were raised as a Christian and will obviously resist any tampering with your “superior” culture and religion (not to mention skin color), especially when it comes from a “pagan” or “kaffir.” So go ahead and resist, like the rest of America did when those “violent” abolitionists argued for the abolition of slavery. In the end, righteousness will prevail. In other words, Hindus like SD and I who seek to combat the subversion of our culture through a reformation of media and academia.[/QUOTE]
Good to see you dont intend to cause a war…or perhaps you will leave that for others to do after reading what you write.
I’m like SD…he was a Sikh that switched to Hinduism…this is probably why he doesn’t mention the Sikhs ever in all of this…the warriors of India…I switched from Christianity so we have this in common…
What you need to understand is that the MAJORITY of Christians do not think the way you want them to think, so your writings will be seen as mostly old historical nonsense with a few pockets of non religious peoples from your end of the world still trying to war like England did in its History. We have moved on from the days of the old testament All you can do is raise old crap like slavery…it was abolished we all respected it in the end, end of story.
Witch Hunting ended long ago…end of story. OLD Testament ended long ago…end of story
[QUOTE=kareng;48033]Good to see you dont intend to cause a war…or perhaps you will leave that for others to do after reading what you write.
I’m like SD…he was a Sikh that switched to Hinduism…this is probably why he doesn’t mention the Sikhs ever in all of this…the warriors of India…I switched from Christianity so we have this in common…
What you need to understand is that the MAJORITY of Christians do not think the way you want them to think, so your writings will be seen as mostly old historical nonsense with a few pockets of non religious peoples from your end of the world still trying to war like England did in its History. We have moved on from the days of the old testament All you can do is raise old crap like slavery…it was abolished we all respected it in the end, end of story.
Witch Hunting ended long ago…end of story. OLD Testament ended long ago…end of story[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and I am a Rajput. We were warriors too.
Actually, they do. They retain vestiges of superiority and scorn for other traditions.
End of story? Only in the most nominal sense.
[QUOTE]Actually, they do. They retain vestiges of superiority and scorn for other traditions.
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Sorry, didn’t get this…what are you saying? please expand…
Perhaps this will expedite your understanding of my previous post:
Isn't it beautiful? The derivation of the Schroedinger equation? Even though I don't understand much of it...I WILL EVENTUALLY!
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;48032]Lol, you really must be high on something. What are my methods? I have said, for the 5th time now, that I plan to intellectual undermine Christianity and Islam and raise awareness about their negative effects on the rest of the world. I do not plan to create violence. That would be a waste of time, money, and lives and be highly foolish.
I do not see how intellectual awareness can produce the same wretched results Christianity and Islam have throughout the ages. If my methods are successful, Christians, Muslims, and the West will reform themselves for the better. No lives lost. Just changed.
But of course, you will just ignore this and say the same thing. You were raised as a Christian and will obviously resist any tampering with your “superior” culture and religion (not to mention skin color), especially when it comes from a “pagan” or “kaffir.” So go ahead and resist, like the rest of America did when those “violent” abolitionists argued for the abolition of slavery. In the end, righteousness will prevail. In other words, Hindus like SD and I who seek to combat the subversion of our culture through a reformation of media and academia.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately for you, all faiths contain the same formula for spiritual advancement, the same as Hinduism. How it is expressed is varied, but each one has the identical formula.
Anyone practicing their faith and gaining some kind of spiritual advancement will not have done so with anger in their head. This is true for all.
Today when a Christian is practicing correctly, they know that violence and hatred are outside the formula, the same is for the Muslim.
Christians extract from the bible what is inside the formula. They ignore the rest. Catholics do the same, so do Muslims…out of respect for their faith, they probably wont admit that…
Then you get the type who is uneducated and not wise either…They haven’t experienced any spiritual advancement, they are just hanging in with the gang…They will tell you they are a devout something or other, but it just isnt true…They just might take some sections of text and desire to enact them. Focusing on parts that wont get them anywhere spiritually. They are warmongers.
In England there are very strict rules about inciting a riot/trouble…they are very strict whereas in India you do not have an efficient system. I realise India is massive in comparison to Britain and many more people are involved…that is part of the problem. Corruption is huge problem. And yes I;m sure corruption is everywhere but India excels in this…
Why do you think that Protestants and Catholics stopped their fight?
This will happen in India one day when you have a correct system in place.
As young people wanting to change India for the better, your focus should be on creating a system in India that manages the country efficiently…I know this will happen one day …your going backwards, not forwards!!!
[QUOTE=kareng;48055]Unfortunately for you, all faiths contain the same formula for spiritual advancement, the same as Hinduism. How it is expressed is varied, but each one has the identical formula.
Anyone practicing their faith and gaining some kind of spiritual advancement will not have done so with anger in their head. This is true for all.
Today when a Christian is practicing correctly, they know that violence and hatred are outside the formula, the same is for the Muslim.
Christians extract from the bible what is inside the formula. They ignore the rest. Catholics do the same, so do Muslims…out of respect for their faith, they probably wont admit that…
Then you get the type who is uneducated and not wise either…They haven’t experienced any spiritual advancement, they are just hanging in with the gang…They will tell you they are a devout something or other, but it just isnt true…They just might take some sections of text and desire to enact them. Focusing on parts that wont get them anywhere spiritually. They are warmongers.
In England there are very strict rules about inciting a riot/trouble…they are very strict whereas in India you do not have an efficient system. I realise India is massive in comparison to Britain and many more people are involved…that is part of the problem. Corruption is huge problem. And yes I;m sure corruption is everywhere but India excels in this…
Why do you think that Protestants and Catholics stopped their fight?
This will happen in India one day when you have a correct system in place.
As young people wanting to change India for the better, your focus should be on creating a system in India that manages the country efficiently…I know this will happen one day …your going backwards, not forwards!!![/QUOTE]
As for your first couple of paragraphs, this is what I have to say: If only that was true.
Oh yes, corruption is a problem. But it has steadily been declining. It is not THAT serious of a problem anymore as Western media has made it out to be. I know; I have been there. Do you have family that visits India at-least 3 times a year and have extended family living there? Back then, it used to be where my family, one of the richest in Hyderabad, could have bribed the “police” to do anything for them. Not the case anymore.
Oh, I do plan on doing that. But that system won’t work with missionaries converting our people and creating even more disunity among the masses. It won’t work with those secular idiots in power who care about their money and denounce “Hindu terrorism” left and right (while ignoring the constant Muslim threat to our country). It won’t work with half of India believing in the Christian devised AIT (it already happened in Tamil Nadu = persecution of Brahmins, banning of Sanskrit). There needs to be a massive cultural and political change before anything our generation does makes any impact.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;48038]Yeah, and I am a Rajput. We were warriors too.
Actually, they do. They retain vestiges of superiority and scorn for other traditions.
End of story? Only in the most nominal sense.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Those Rajputs are a bunch of gentle souls.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2004/01/13/stories/2004011305091200.htm
In England there are very strict rules about inciting a riot/trouble…they are very strict whereas in India you do not have an efficient system. I realise India is massive in comparison to Britain and many more people are involved…that is part of the problem. Corruption is huge problem. And yes I;m sure corruption is everywhere but India excels in this…
Yep, you have a point. Yet also, as it has been explained tens of times, that it was the British that robbed India and fueled its own country’s economy. It was the British that sympathized the Islamic involvement into India. It is corrupt because Indian people’s loose cultural thread allows this to flourish now. India is as corrupt as many developing countries, and Britain, now at the verge of an economic collapse, facing its karma, so to speak.
Facing the facts: what happened that we have replaced 40,000 years old shamanic practices with nearly 2000-3000 year old, this ill-omened, crippled Abrahamic ideology? And become faith-worhsippers in symbolic realities instead of [I]experiencing[/I] the world in the existing order of the world? Could any one of you answer this question?
What are the roots of Abrahamic religions? No mystic talk, no cross-reference, no Sumerian alien theories and such: explain it if you can with logic and evidence.