[QUOTE=Suhas Tambe;57962]My intention was to describe how immensely informative pieces at the predictable turning points descend into personal attacks prompting me to give up on that thread. Attacks by anyone are deplorable. If people of other religions write ill I don’t like it, don’t read it - since I don’t know them. Hinduism as I understand is very secular, tolerent and respectful to others. You two appeared different Hindus and that was the reason of writing the post. Perhaps even that was a mistake not worth repeating.
It is not a ‘political’ correctness, perhaps it is ‘spiritual’ sincerity. There is no need to equate erring individuals with a system of faith. In “Accept Jesus or go to Hell”, the important thing I see is that Jesus didn’t say that. It is futile to dig into the dead past for evidence of others’ wrong-doings because if one cannot live the present with ability to overcome the discrimination like “I vs rest of the world” and “us vs them”, failure to do so is an invitation for the history to repeat. Then there is no learning. And learning cannot be forced down someone’s throat. It has to ‘happen’.
If you think I want to appease someone or to play ‘holier than thou’, that’s a perception I have no interest in correcting.[/QUOTE]
But the important thing is that Jesus either a myth or a rotten corpse and that his “followers” are now deluded, bigoted, racist, and supremacist people who seek to subvert every other culture, ideology, and religion on the planet.
The important thing is Muslims and Christians are destroying Hinduism as we speak.
The important thing is that you sitting around and preaching harmony won’t change the damage being done to our culture and religion.
In fact, Hindus like you are the 3rd biggest problem in India. People like you denounce Hindu reprisal acts against Christians and Muslims and say nothing of the millennia old bigotry and hatred they have carried down to present times. You say nothing of our anti-Hindu government, they way they cozy up to Muslims and Christians by refusing to give temples to private hands and taxing them to build churches and mosques. You say nothing of the misrepresentation and ignorance of Hinduism running rampant in this world but cry afoul when people bash Christianity and Islam.
Every single day in school, I meet an Indian who has lost his touch with his culture and religion. They think that Hinduism is nothing more than a baseless collection of rituals and made-up gods with an illogical and oppressive societal system to boot. In fact, an Indian I know very well ranked faiths like this:
“Normal religions”
“Paganism”
And he said Hinduism was paganism. An [B]Indian[/B] actually said this!
Every single day, I have to hear racist remarks about Indians and India. [B]“Go back to shithole of a nation. Eat your smelly diarrhea and swing from trees like a nigger monkey all you want back there. If you feel thirsty, you can always drink from the Ganges toilet.”[/B]
“Wise” people on this forum have also opined similarly, to varying degrees. Flex Penguin, The Scales, Lotus girl, Quetzalcoatl, and now Asuri.
Why do you think most Westerners are so in love with Buddhism? Why are they never as complimentary about Hinduism or Jainism or Sikhism?
Sitting on kusha grass and preaching “spiritual sincerity” isn’t going to change the fact that Hinduism will be dead unless we start campaigning for a better representation of India, Hinduism, and Hindus AND preaching pluralism and tolerance WHILE exposing the lack thereof in Abrahamic religions.
The best place to start is Indian history. Nothing can ever be accomplished if “wise” people are arguing with infinitely more knowledgeable Indians about the origins of THEIR religion and custom.
I may get mad or angry frequently, but that is because this is a racial and religious issue. White people will never be able to understand the passionate yearnings of the people they have long oppressed throughout history. Sometimes, you must play dirty to get what you want. This is explicit stated in our scriptures.