Surya,
“Amir’s view that the actions of an enlightened person can also kill, rape, murder, lust, maim seem to based on the view that enlightenment is only process based.”
You have missed the point completely. What I said is that actions by themselves carry no quality of their own, it is the quality of the mind which determines one’s actions. Just as there is no humbleness in the act of bowing down, or stillness in the act of sitting silently, actions by themselves are simply superficial. It is completely certain that your actions will reflect your inner consciousness, but the same act which is done by one who is living out of awareness carries a totally different aroma than one who commits the same action out of unawareness. One is mechanical, robotic, lifeless - the other is filled with spontaneous vitality. Neither is there any absolute system of morality, what you consider “right” and “wrong” are just your own relative perceptions depending on your likes and dislikes, your identifications, the kind of society in which you have been raised - it is determined by so many factors. There is another kind of morality which happens out of a communion of your consciousness with existence, but it has nothing to do with these fixed doctrines of what is right or wrong, good or bad, should or should not be done - it comes from a far more vital intelligence.
“It is simply inconceivable that they could be capable of anything like murder”
Tell me, is it possible to live on this planet without killing a single creature ?
“theft”
There used to be a Zen master who used to steal all kinds of things. And he would always steal things like a single shoe, some fruit in the marketplace, things which are not of much harm to anybody. He would go to jail quite often, and everytime he would be released, within days he would return to the jail. Nearing the end of his life, he was asked by his disciples why he continued stealing. He said that it was for the sake of those people in the jail, just like everybody else, they too deserve to come into contact with the methods for the expansion of consciousness. And throughout his life, he managed to transform the jail into a monastery.
Again, it is the quality of the mind which determines the nature of any action, action have no qualities by themselves. If something is violent, it is not because you have committed a violent act, but because the mind is in a state of violence. You can strike a sword out of hatred, or you can strike the same sword out of compassion. You can bow down out of arrogance, but you can also bow down out of humility. But that is the tendency of most people, if you are living as a slave to ones programming, the mind is all too quick to judge things based on appearances. Based on appearances, you will always have a very skin level understanding of things, it will never penetrate deep into the marrow.