[QUOTE=Pawel;38611]Hi Kareng,
Thanks for post. I like your direct descriptions. Since you are during your practice you experience so many images, I thought I will use the opportunity to ask you about one thing. Since I read about near death experiences and dependency of imagery on personal background (e.g. person with Jewish background experiencing judgement day) , I started to think how can we distinguish between the content of our imagination and “structures” existing independently. At the moment I have theory that we experience sort of archetypes which take form according to our background/imagination capabilities. So my question is: do you have criteria to separate creations of your imagination from more objective features of your visions? When you wrote about buddha in third eye, do you mean literally that there such a structure or that there is something that we most likely would perceive as little buddha?[/QUOTE]
The trouble with my direct descriptions is that they become lengthy so I apolagise in advance.
At last, someone has responded who knows what I am talking about. Thank you Pawel. Your question is very interesting.
Yes I agree entirely with this part of your post, you wrote…At the moment I have theory that we experience sort of archetypes which take form according to our background. Mine was a suprise as I explained. There is a history inside us that emerges through the third eye I think. By looking past this we go deeper and deeper into our true essence and eventually what Buddhists call enlightenment.
The next question you asked was…So my question is: do you have criteria to separate creations of your imagination from more objective features of your visions?
Can I explain it like this: When I first started, I would see real things like people walking about here and now, nothing to rave about, just people somewhere in this world, places etc and intuitively when you look and think What is this then, the answer comes immediately to you. Its a place in Africa or New Zealand and its someone who is on their way to a bank, say, or people shopping in a street in Canada, so these are the simple surface layers that the ajna chakra can present you with.
I would like to point out that I have nothing in my head when I commence ajna practice, nothing but a focus on a tiny light that grows bigger, this is the eye opening. It is important to think nothing but a singular focus.
Then you asked…When you wrote about buddha in third eye, do you mean literally that there such a structure
Yes most definitely yes!
One day after extreme physical exercise, I went to bed and started the ajna practice and suddenly noted that I was experiencing a different format. I saw red streaks intermingling with blackness. I opened my eyes and thought it must be blood vessels I am seeing, I closed them again and it immediately resumed, red streaks moving and twisting in blackness. I also noted a definite steady pace of movement and stayed with it. It wasn’t jerky, buy just like the steady speed an escalator travels at. I stayed with it relaxed etc. It then slowed and stopped and in the near distance I saw a man, in lotus pose seated. curious, I thought who is he? and with this thought I moved directly to his right side profile, quite close to his face. I began to study his face. Clean shaven, shiny healthy eyebrows, eyes closed, meditative pose, and a very serious kind of facial pose. I then thought how very kind of serious he looked, at this my eye was taken back to a central position involuntarily and he began to levitate at the same time this happened. I watched him levitate then turn with his back to me, traveling to a point central to my sight in the space he was in, he then turned to face me and levitated straight at me, and into my eye.His eyes were open as he did this. At no point was I scared, the significance of this I will get to in a bit. I then came out of the meditatin and to my suprise my third eye was permanently open and he was sat between my eyes, just above them a touch, peering in and out, still in lotus pose but making all the gestures a normal person might do. He was a tiny little very very real man in every sense that real is. I noted he would lean forward looking out and then lean back, he would come out fully if I looked towards the Sun (not directly at the sun but u know close to) He loved the sun and would bathe in its heat and light, so I would do this to please him. He would grow bigger and bigger when my thoughts were nothing but happy…We had a relationship where he would guide me intuitively. I also noticed that people were drawn to me like an incredible magnet, I couldn’t do wrong, I was like a spoilt child getting everything I wanted I could do things like I learnt Moonlight Sonata on the piano in 2 days of trying the piano, I don’t mean magically or anything like that, I had pure focus on whatever I did. a day to work out the notes, play a tape of it again and again to get the timing and a day to play it, on the third day, I played it perfectly. He liked this tune, ha! He stayed with me for about 18 months or so…cant remember just exactly how long but I know he disappeared when I started University. (This was a big mistake on reflection.)
Next …phew…one night I went to bed and for some reason had a sense I wasn’t alone in the room, There was enough light in the room to see nothing was there (street light shining through curtains) I decided to switch the light on, because I felt uneasy. the light was a lamp with a longish flex where the switch was. I leaned forward on my knees shuffling trying to find the dangling switch. I looked to my right because I could see something dash by me. I saw a grotesque being, a skeleton with black mass surrounding its limbs, he was in a position that a crouching diver might take diving into a pool. knees bent legs tightly under him Levitated of course, His hands together like u would in prayer but facing ahead rather than up. He was using this pose to move around me, I began to instinctively dodge him, I was terrified but focussed as well. He had an elongated neck, skeletal through the black mass surrounding him horrid skeletal face and teeth, I kept dodging him, he was aiming for me with his palms as the director? I then began to say the prayer, our father who art in heaven, out loud in a commanding voice, and I watched him slowly fade away with every sentance of it, till he was gone. Why did this happen? because I was unaware I was in a third eye state and had been thinking of sex. This I later read about, many years later, was the cause, but I instinctively knew as well? I had brought through a hungry ghost as the Buddhists call it or the jin in Islam or a demon in Christianity, this was why. I stopped meditating that year and contemplated and came to the conclusion I must conquer sexual thoughts and I did and have. and you must conquer fear when in the third eye state. should it arise. This I hope I have but still might be put to the test on it. ps I dont think the prayer was necessarily the reason I dispersed it however it was instinctive to do it.
Next, I found as time passed that I could very easily be in a third eye state, eg, whilst just sat in living room with tv on or in the bath etc etc so I realised I had to have constant guard on this. You have to keep your awareness levels in check.
All of the above were not imagery, you are fully aware that they are not and you are fully aware of their intension’s, good or bad…these are just two examples.
Next…the imagery part also happens, and this is the part that you use as the measure of your progess, I think.
I was lying on my side on my sofa , very relaxed and tired, and started thinking about flattery received by a man, again, after a night out, I then immediately saw in vivid colour a a woman waving to me, she was in what appeared to be a jungle setting, she was, I thought waving with her left hand. She was young and very beautiful, someone else was there, but I didnt see them, i just knew a she glanced at them to acknowledge them. Her right arm was hidden by a large leaf and as I thought this she stepped to her left and I could then see she wasnt waving but dancing in a truly indian way, head starting moving in that indian way. Thr rest of her body was covered by vegetation growing in front of her. I believe she was naked on reflection but never got her to show this because as I am a woman I wasn’t attracted to her (why wasn’t it a man I wonder?) so I looked at her without lust etc at which point I moved to a scene past her of flying people. One came very low and smiled at me, he was surrounded by light so he looked kind of funny, all his head was white and body with this light with a cuteish face, I saw there were many of them flying above him, right uo into the distance, (no wings)
These are the imagery parts to the ajna, they look real but you know they are not, instinctively, these you can move past, these are part of your layers of history that you can remove by looking past and taking little notice of.
EG At some point you will find yourself in a street where you will meet dead relatives, some you dont know by face but u know by intuition, you should completely ignore them and look past them, again this is imagery. Although I cant make out why a street!!
Look past all imagery, give it little attention dont spend too much time giving it thought.
Be careful if the third eye is open and u are not vigilant you will bring through undesirables into your real world if only for a few minutes!!!
You will be scared when there is a need to be and the opposite when there is no need to be. Th chakra itself gives you intuition. However I have been told that there are tricksters, hopefully I will know this as it happens, I am not sure of this just yet, how I will know etc.
I hope this is of help…it is very very important to be kind, happy compassionate and all the good things in life when practicing ajna. The buddhist very basics are good guide for any faith if they are unsure of the rules. Dont practice it if you cant practice the right speech, right action right this and that etc etc you must be as bright in spirit everyday as you possibly can be when using the ajna chakra.
Kindest Regards Kareng