"Terms such as "Dharmic" and "Hindu" are synonymous. Deal with it."
I have no problem with the word, you are the one who is infatuated by it. As far as I am concerned, words have no meaning in themselves. Call it "Dharmic" call it "Hindu", call it whatever you want - but existence itself has no idea of anything "Dharmic" or "Hindu" - existence makes no discrimination between weeds or flowers, jewels or dung.
"Yes, it now refers to the "whole package." Deal with it."
If that is the case, then you will have to drop your discrimination between Buddhists, Sikhs, and Jains as well, with all of their countless sects and sub-sects, who have also made use of the technology of yoga with tremendous intensity. It would be good if the word "Hindu" just simply referred to the "whole package", but it is not really the case.
"Epic fail logic is epic fail.
The etymology of the word Hindu is meaningless in light of the fact that Dharmis of all sorts use it, among other older and indigenous terms, to refer to their culture and religion, or aspects of it, alike. "
It seems you were not mindful of my message and misunderstood. Go back and read the message with attention. I was speaking of yoga, not Hinduism.
"General knowledge belongs to no one.
Cultural and religious practices belong to/originate in different cultural groups. Yoga is Hindu/Indian/Dharmic, Shinto is Japanese, The Haka is Maori, and so on"
That is your own ignorance. Again, if the yogic sciences are "Indian", then quantum physics is American. Science is simply science, and unless you approach yoga as a science, then you have absolutely no understanding of it.
"To truly understand Yoga and to truly appreciate it, you have to understand and immerse yourself in its cultural roots, which are Indic"
That has nothing to do with understanding yoga. Yoga is not a social phenomenon - it has everything to do with coming to know yourself, through and through. It has its roots in direct experience, in mans coming to realization of his original nature. Then - perhaps, once one started trying to transmit the way to others, it can become a social phenomenon, but fundamentally it has its roots in direct experience. Any method which leads you towards your enlightenment, is a method of yoga. If you want to understand it - then dive into the innermost depth of your own being and realize your true nature. Unless you have come to your awakening, you would not have even a spark of clarity into the matter. Even Vyasa has said, "Yoga is Samadhi". Samadhi, like the methods of yoga, is not Hindu. You cannot put a trademark over a state of consciousness. Enter into Samadhi, and come to a direct experience of yoga. As long as you continue fascinating yourself with borrowed knowledge you have read from books and mistake this to be the essence of yoga - then even eternities will not settle the matter.
"Which are Indic in origin. "
I know you have read the above message without mindfulness. Go back and read it again with attention. This is basic yogic practice.
"All different cultures have their own way of realizing that Truth and those who are not a part of the culture have no right to decide what interpretation is acceptable."
As yoga has its roots in direct experience of mans exploration and seeing into his own true nature, every human being has the right to interpret it in whatever way one wants. This is an inner science, and all the only pre-requisite that is needed to know about it is to be human. There is nothing "Hindu" about the fact that if you control your breath, it is possible to control the vital energies of the body as a means to enter into deeper states of awareness. Nor is there anything "Hindu" about the fact that there exist certain centers of energy along the spinal cord. Even if you are born in Japan, they will be there. Even if you are born on another planet - they are there. What you are doing is just like those who have been unable to separate science from religious dogma. Yoga is not a dogma - it is a science and it has to be approached as such. It has not to do with your imagination, but in things as they are.[/QUOTE]
This is nothing more than a stinking pile of illogical arguments and more ignorance.
I'm sick of constantly arguing this point.
Yoga is Hindu/Indic/Dharmic in origin and no white man can never change that fact with endless games of semantics.