If you have a SRF (Self Realization Fellowship) temple near you, they probably hold classes on PY’s Kriya Yoga.
I’m sure. But if they taught correctly we would all be spiritual ninjas.thus logical deduction says they aren’t teaching correctly or they don’t give u the full cigar.
Right On! One can try the SRF technique simply by going to kriyayogaboard.yuku.com and click on SRF the 5th post from the top will give you the technique for their kriya. Personally, their “AW” and “EE” mouth and nose breathing did nothing for me. This pranayam was a waste of time for me.
I practiced what I considered to be appropriate breathwork for a period of 3 hours towards the end of work and on my journey home for the evening. I had to stop the practice while I was driving because the state of mind I Was in was not safe for driving. I can see where this path leads.
Appropriate breathwork? What were the effects?
[QUOTE=JSK;75006]I practiced what I considered to be appropriate breathwork for a period of 3 hours towards the end of work and on my journey home for the evening. I had to stop the practice while I was driving because the state of mind I Was in was not safe for driving. I can see where this path leads.[/QUOTE]
What was the appropriate breathwork you did for 3 hours? Yes, please post the effects. What state of mind were you in?
Avatar,
If the pranayam is being done correctly than one feels tingling. Is it also a common experience to have the whole body vibrate as well? This is the result of nerve endings firing or something to that effect-----It is quite the experience!
When Yogananda was about to depart for America Sri Yukteswarji told him to teach the Kriya Yoga of Patanjali. Kriya yoga is the complete spiritual path which consists of tapas (discipline), swadyaya (Self-study), and Ishwara-pranidana (oneness with God). The technique to assist one in achieving thoughtless awareness in meditation (kriya pranayama) is only one small component in the process. Over concern regarding the form of practice can lead to a more “materialistic” approach to awakening. It is the “after effects tranquility” in meditation practice that is transformative, according to Lahiri Mahasaya.
That’s heavy.
Something to think about.
RPL,
Where does this information exist that Yukteshwar told Yogananda go teach the "Kriya"
yoga of Patanjali. Are you basing this on a rumor or is there proof of this? I would like to know because I have never heard this story until now. Please share the source.
Regards.
Yoganada’s Kriya Yoga can only be legitimately learned through initiation into SRF, ananda Sanga or sister organizations. You will be taught the basic Kriyas initially, and then when the guru feels you are progressing, you will be taught the more advanced Kriyas. To be initiated you must be initiated by the guru directly and also must pay your due in the the form of 5 fruits, flowers, incense and a monetary payment ranging from $100-300.
The Kriya Yoga techniques are almost identical to the Bihar School of Yoga Tantra yoga. So another way of learning Kriya Yoga is to just learn the techniques from BSY either through their books, dvd’s or directly in their ashram. Initiation is not required.
The Kriya Yoga techniques can also be learned illegitimately through books written by ex Kriya-bans who did not agree with the secrecy e.g., Ennino Nimis.
Yes nerve endings fireing.
Their should be no signs of blacking out/dizzyness oxygen hunger etc. These things are not a part of it. But yes juniper that is decarbonization.
Ironically this method of breathing has been known by more than one name.
Though remember the breathing itself is just another tool. Not the goal.
I am interested I’m Hanna look up the ex kriya name.
The tingling literally comes from decarbonization. For carbon dioxide, is what controls breathing. Not oxygen. Because you are getting rid of carbon dioxide faster than it accumulates. It causes hemoglobin and o2 to bond tighter. Thus the whole body vibrates.
despite peoples claims that this practise is “bad” I have never passed out nor experianced dizzyness or oxygen hunger. Just remember their is a fine line in everything. This practise has an opposite. Know what side your on.
Yes, everything has a fine line. What is the( negative) opposite side of this practice? In the beginning, when I was new to this practice I did experience dizziness one time. So I stopped the pranayam and everything must have stabilized because the dizziness went away. Dizziness has not reoccurred. A sense of well-being and tranquility is what I normally experience after decarbonization.
If i used western terms. it would simply cause confusion. but simply enough.
One decarbonizes. The other increases carbon dioxide.
Carbon dioxide is like a ship that is taking on water. breathing is the man on the boat throwing water back into the ocean. when the man throws more water out, than is building up. decarbonization happens.
I simply breath in and out. i do not use any popular method.
oxygen hunger as commonly experianced after running. is the feeling that you need to breath in more. yet is caused by carbon dioxide.
"So i would suggest not letting your exhale become shorter than your inspiration. Besides that, the most important tip. is consistent and rhythmical. CONSISTENT AND RHYTHMICAL. Big letters. I emphasize. For carbon dioxide is always building. your aim is to get rid of it faster than it builds.
this does not. does not does not does not. does not require quick breathing. If you breath at a normal resting rate, and simply eliminate the pause between breaths. it works
pause is never forced, but will happen when you stop doing the practise. you will be breathless for a time.
I am no master. This is simply a technique i know, and is literally and scientifically decarbonization of the body.
NOW. the part i havnt figured out. is how the taoists would say.
to crystallize the spirit. I have a hunch. But am still working on re figuring this all out. so once i know then i will know and belief will not be needed. let ya know when i know.
Thanks Avatar! the description you have given on how one uses pranayam to decarbonize is the method I have been using to accomplish this. I don’t know about crystallizing the spirit, but I am expecting with the long term practice of decarbonizing one becomes purified
through and through.
Decarbonization of the blood helps purify the body and tissues. Perhaps the technique of pranayam purifies more than the physical body. I keep the breath consistent and rhythmical meaning I keep my inspiration and exhalation at an even pace— no short rapid breaths. If you discover how to crystallize the spirit please share the technique with me!
[B]“or they don’t give you the full cigar”[/B]
Yep. Why do you think that is?
[B]“When Yogananda was about to depart for America Sri Yukteswarji told him to teach the Kriya Yoga of Patanjali. Kriya yoga is the complete spiritual path which consists of tapas (discipline), swadyaya (Self-study), and Ishwara-pranidana (oneness with God). The technique to assist one in achieving thoughtless awareness in meditation (kriya pranayama) is only one small component in the process. Over concern regarding the form of practice can lead to a more “materialistic” approach to awakening. It is the “after effects tranquility” in meditation practice that is transformative, according to Lahiri Mahasaya[/B]”
Of course it is. The exercises impart a level of mental tranquility combined with equipose and dare I say it - awareness. In this state of mind when one sits down to do it - it is much easier to do and the results are tangible.
Asana alone, breathing exercises alone are not transformative. They by themselves are about as usefull as a toothpick in destroying a mountain.
Pranayama means “energy control”. With much in the Holy Science there are apparent meanings, implied, and hidden meanings, and out right tricks and traps.
All is transformative. Change is the word of transformation. Yet u can’t freeze something and expect fire. Adana. Pranayama. Are transformative on their own, but they may not get u what u seek on their own.