Satanism.
It does actually exist or so i’ve heard/read. I think these people are deluded though.
[QUOTE=core789;44498]Satanism.
It does actually exist or so i’ve heard/read. I think these people are deluded .[/QUOTE]
If God/Satan or Good/Evil are two sides of the same coin, Then worshiping God is just as ‘deluded’ as worshiping Satan…logically, of course.
God and Satan are not two sides of the same coin.
There is no equivalence whatsoever.
God is the Infinite Creator. Satan is a created being who rebelled. His being is dependent upon God.
Satan is evil. To worship Satan is to be in accord with all manner of evil such as rape, murder, stealing–anything that is immoral.
Satan’s sin was not loving God more than man. Satan’s sin was pride–in wanting to rule instead of serve.
I do not accept your statement either Nobody.Sorry . I hate to disagree with people here…Awww
Or even understand it…you are playing with semantics…
They are two different coins.Though i guess if one is prone to delusions or just confused it might be hard telling them apart… OnE is a real shitty one and the other is well…GOOD.
LOL:eek:
You will need to explain it abit more to get away with such a rash statement Nobody.You may be referring loosely to the morality of zen buddhism which states in a philopshical way that there is no right or wrong as these are just comparitive concepts and human judgements- and in some sense theere is none without the other. But we all know what is right and wrong for most actions.Though i think for practicality’s sake many folk can agree on alot of things. We cannot play God i think and judge others but we can generalise.
You raise an interesting idea which i am happy to explore as there might be something in it, worth exploring but it would need expanding i feel.
That a single coin is seen may be the confusion.The devil may wear jesus’s clothes & walk like him but it does’nt necessarily make him so.Although i know and appreciate how one can be fooled or simply just confused.
Both your premises don’t sound logical or your argument either .But hey i might just be confused tonight.LOL
Rather than going into a lengthy reply, which I honestly cannot be arsed to do right now as it means revising and expounding the Sefer Yetzirah and the Thelmetic teachings of Anton La Vey…
I shall ask the OP to explain it to y’all instead. I would be very interested to read that. 
Perhaps you were playing devil’s advocate.
Dead bodies to chop up no doubt , i see.That’s quite alright.LOL
I think it’s easy to get confused Nobody.There can be a fine line in us all between the raging psychopath and the sane sage.I just hope none of us oversteps that line or gets a little confused perhaps.
[QUOTE=core789;44509]Perhaps you were playing devil’s advocate.
Dead bodies to chop up no doubt , i see.That’s quite alright.LOL[/QUOTE]
Of course. I play the ‘advocate’ role more than the actual worshiping one nowdays.
Look, they even made an icon for me: :evil:
That being said, I have ‘dabbled’ a bit in the occult back in the day and it’s a very interesting path when one fully understands it beyond your basic ‘Devil Worship’ thing.
Yes i think some things are misunderstood and usually with occult matters or the esoteric i often go with gut instinct. How does it feel [I]deep down[/I]? Like a psychic dowser rod is working away… You could call it a kiind of spiritual street-wiseness, i don’t know?.If it does’nt feel right i won’t be indoctrinated & resist… Hey maybe i’ve dabbled without knowing it.
I just think you have to be careful you don’t confuse yourself as the Devil does play tricks and try to tempt us with his nonsense.
It can sound a bit trite just to say be nice to folk as this does not convey what is going on…
I am not sure though what sort of case you could make to say satanism could be a valid path. I think this just sounds like anything goes by wrapping it up in the cache of diablo incarnate himself.
I really like to keep an open mind in all things especially the contrvoersial and misunderstood but i am aware of the tricks i play on myself…if you get me. The devils within. You/onself being your own worst enemy of course.Complete & comprehensive Self-delusion is the easy one… I mean i could probably convince myself of many thingss if i spent long and hard enough on it investing in it.
As i say i’ll keep an open mind.A new thread could always be started. Open minds welcome as is no bickering…lol
You don’t need to go into it but i would be interesting in exploring any case someone might want to make for devil worship or something similarly controversial…as a valid path of course.
I am actually quite interested in what you’re talking about, of course Nobody, especially when you say it’s not just plain devil-worship.lol.I think i have heard similar things.
[B]The devil can confuse our hearts as well as our minds btw.[/B]
P.S I’m sorry but i’m gonna go for a wee snooze just now. Really nice chatting to you Nobody. I think you deserve a much better name/handle than that btw.No ego obviously…:roll:
That was the whole point behind me choosing that name. 
Besides which, 'anonymity' is the general state of an online persona, so if anybody asks who I am, I can say with all due conviction, "I am Nobody". lol
Yes, A case cannot really be made for 'Satan Worship' and I am the very first to admit it.
All I can do, is to leave some links in my wake and bid you all have fun with them (and a very pleasant nap to you, core789):
As for the 'open mind' bit. I fully agree:
Do what thou wilst but harm ye none shalt be all of The Law 
[QUOTE=core789;44469]Hi Seeker,
If you don't mind me asking, what sort of meditation do you practice?
Could you explain if possible how it's done, please?
I take it this may different from any pranayama or other practices you may do as part of a balanced practice routine.
hanks very much in advance for your valuable time if you don't mind sharing this here with us all :DYou're a gem. Cheers!![/QUOTE]
I am working with Sahaja yoga meditation from 20 years. First you can awaken your Kundlaini with this exercise:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2324837246189907116#
Then when you are connected you can start feeling what are the problems of your chakras at your fingertips.
Please find online meditation classes here:
Hi Seeker
Interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing.
Lesson 1:
http://www.onlinemeditation.org/meditation-class-1/your-experiment-with-truth-introduction/
Although i was looking for straightforward practical instructions condensed into more of a nutshell.Principles & main techniques…that kind of thing.Though i do realise i’d have to wade through the online course lessons.I have heard it said, to dig a well perhaps a few but not to get too distracted with digging too many.
I get/understand the hot & the cold, i think, in the palms and the ida & pingala side-channels,& any of the sensations over sahasrara etc.The breeze over the head i have experienced btw and ever so subtle though too-usually when you get crown and/or third-eye activity.You would’nt ordinarily give much significane to it unless you had been told,schooled perhaps or were especially pyschic(is that the right word…) or subtly aware.Seems like one of the more esoteric branches. They are definitely interested in Kundalini which i am too; i make no bones about it but i respect the force and that when you’re ready you’re ready…or should i say she is ready. Kundalini can do harm in an insufficiently puurified nervous system or subtle body which is why having an arsenal of tools and some knowledge i think as you go down the path of yoga is invaluable.The means may vary,the end-point is the same or similar. Yes Kundalini is like a divine intelligence;it will move when it/she is ready but i agree with Nobody that forcing or not being purified enough, i think was the other condition given, can have adverse effects, not to sound too alarmist about it.
Like the images btw.
I think most of my chakras need working on.Heart chakra,belly chakra & third-eye for e.g.
Hi @core789,
If you want you can start meditation by putting your attention high above your Sahasrara and stay in thoughtless awareness - Nirvichar Samadhi/ without thoughts/.
Try this for 10-20 min and than tell me what is the result.
[QUOTE=b.shahvir;44488]What do you mean by that?..do you practice anti-God rituals?..I never knew something like this exists!..is it a cult? 
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Nooo…it’s just worshipping satan as our true father and creater.
is this seriously turning into a religion thread? Cause I thought we could all just treat eachother as equils here.
[QUOTE=KundaliniGirl;44562]Nooo…it’s just worshipping satan as our true father and creater.[/QUOTE]
:o
Are you speaking of THE Satan? The one also known as Lucifer?
Also known as the Father of Lies.
Also known as the instigator of all human suffering.
Could you define the Satan you worship?
[QUOTE=KundaliniGirl;44563]is this seriously turning into a religion thread? Cause I thought we could all just treat eachother as equils here.[/QUOTE]
Have I not done so?
Am I not the only one who has defended you and gone to great lengths to explain it to others?
On this forum, we have all types:
See thomas up there? he is a very dedicated Christian. He believes in Jesus and God with all his heart, so, of course he is going to be…how to say this…‘not very understanding/accepting’.
especially when I tell him that Lucifer = The Bringer of Light and not The Father Of Lies 
See core789? - He is a Hindu (as most of this forum is, with the odd Buddhist here and there…yes, I said ‘odd Buddhist’). 
He would [I]like[/I] to believe and understand what all this ‘Satan Worship’ is about and so far, all you have said is: ‘Hello, I am KundaliniGirl and I worship Satan because He’s our true Father and Creator’…not the most compelling/convincing argument, is it?
See me? I am Wiccan. I believe in the old adage ‘do whatever but don’t hurt people’…thus, I am going to be your ‘best friend’ on here.
I will test you, I will challenge you, I will do anything in my power to have you not look like a total idiot when it comes to your chosen faith.
See everybody else? They just don’t give a flying fuck…they see the words ‘Kundalini’ and ‘Satan’ and go…‘oh dear, I better not even get involved in [I]that[/I] discussion…best to leave that one [I]well[/I] alone’.
Besides which, you have not told us [B]why[/B] you want to raise Kundalini or what makes Satan better than God as a Deity…please do.
crickets chirp
“Lucifer” and “Satan” are the same. Lucifer fell from grace.
Anyway, I don’t know if she means “THE” Satan or a different one. If she means the Satan of Christianity, then what she’s doing is as evil as it gets, though she could be deluded.
How about if we talked about hobbies, Nobody, and I said my hobbies were raping women and torturing kittens.
Would you defend me? Would you be happy for me that I have something fun to do in my spare time and in my own unique way?
But I think the average person would be horrified by that, and multiply that times 1,000, and that’s how I feel about Satan worship. How can I be tolerant of the worship of evil?
But again…I don’t know for sure if she means “The Evil One,” “The Devil,” “The Satan of the Bible.” But that’s how it seems so far.
KundaliniGirl, run from this Satan worship. It’s dangerous.
I am being your “best friend” by telling you this and by not being your enabler.
See core789? - He is a Hindu (as most of this forum is, with the odd Buddhist here and there…yes, I said ‘odd Buddhist’).
What makes you think most of this forum is Hindu?
SD and Core are the only professing Hindus on this forum that I know of. And the Buddhists have left the building.
The rest are into some kind of “direct spirituality” it seems, totally unencumbered by a religion.