Protein

Can someone give me some ideas for protein besides soy, beans, and dairy? Also, I try to eat mostly gluten free. It seems like all vegetarian protein suggestions include soy, wheat, dairy, and beans. I feel like too much soy i makes my hormones out of wack. Wheat and too much dairy bloats me. And I do not like the taste of beans. What else is there?

[QUOTE=a.mi;65713]Can someone give me some ideas for protein besides soy, beans, and dairy? Also, I try to eat mostly gluten free. It seems like all vegetarian protein suggestions include soy, wheat, dairy, and beans. I feel like too much soy i makes my hormones out of wack. Wheat and too much dairy bloats me. And I do not like the taste of beans. What else is there?[/QUOTE]

Rice, millet, nuts…

Do not worry about the protein quantity but the quality, specially the limiting amino acids: methionine and cystine.

If you’re healthy and you properly combine beans, rice, soy and some animal protein (dairy, eggs) you shouldn’t experience troubles in my opinion…

Have you tried quinoa? I believe it’s a complete protein (it’s a grain) and it’s very easy to prepare. You just cover it with twice its volume of water and bring to the boil, then cook until the tiny sprout sort of separates from the grain. It should take about 10 minutes, then you cover it and let it stand until it absorbs all the water.
I really like the taste and you can eat it hot or cold.:smiley:

[QUOTE=ABounD;65727]Have you tried quinoa? I believe it’s a complete protein (it’s a grain) and it’s very easy to prepare. You just cover it with twice its volume of water and bring to the boil, then cook until the tiny sprout sort of separates from the grain. It should take about 10 minutes, then you cover it and let it stand until it absorbs all the water.
I really like the taste and you can eat it hot or cold.:D[/QUOTE]

Quinoa is not gluten free.

I do want to try quinoa as I have never had it before. Is it like a sprout? I can eat sprouted bread without feeling too bloated down. I just hate the weighed down, heavy feeling that many processed carbs cause. I try to eat greek yogurt but its not my favorite thing in the world. I do eat a lot of raw nuts but they are so calorie dense and full of fat (even if its the good kind).

  • Avocado

  • Peanut Butter (or any other nut butter)

  • Lentils (Daal)

  • Plant based smoothies:
    I use a protein blend of: sprouted brown rice protein, chia protein, pea protein, flax protein.
    Or hemp protein.

I’ve been vegan with about 50 percent raw recipes for a few years and agree with some raw foodists that if a person has too much cooked processed food in their diets then they will have problems.
I don’t remember the terms but cooking tends to make some of the protein more difficult to process in the body. So I suggest trying to add more raw foods especially if someone was eating about 95 percent cooked processed pasturized.
It’s been fun for me, tasty recipes, better health, and I’m as strong as ever.
Best wishes, Gil

[QUOTE=panoramix;65728]Quinoa is not gluten free.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is.

The only time quinoa is NOT gluten free is if it has been through the same machinery that has processed wheat and picks up contaminants.

Remember the failsafe in Jurasic Park? The removal of one of the essential amino acids from the Dino profile shut them down if they left the island. Failing to provide the body with even 1 of the 8 essential amino acids, those that we cannot make, results in a breakdown of the body’s muscle protein.

[B]Whey protein concentrates (WPC)[/B] excellent source of amino acids,
easily digested, inexpensive, palatable

[B]Whey Protein Isolates [/B] higher yield protein, faster acting, more expensive. (ideal for post workout nutrition)

[B]Hydrolyzed whey Peptides (HWP) [/B] most bioavailable form, most easily absorbed, bitter taste, most expensive.

The oft. quoted Boirie study showed that the body needs both fast and slow absorbed proteins as the faster digested and absorbed whey may be largely wasted if not combined with slow digestion/absorption proteins.

Enter Eggs

[B]Eggs[/B] (whole) Biological value (BV) of 100 second only to whey.
Slow release protein so ideal for eating throughout the day in various forms.
Yolks may have taxing effect on your liver so the general rule of thumb is to limit to 3 yolks per day. Whites have BV 88.

Some other players:
Quinoa BV 71
Rice Unpolished BV 59
Rice Brown BV 56
Peanuts/Peas BV 55
Soy beans BV 47 This low on the BV value is next to useless on
Whole Grain Wheat BV 44 their own, but invaluable in addition to an
Corn BV 36 already rich protein spectrum.
Potato BV 34

Beans come in with ratings all over the map, google fail.
Dr. Oz says they rock but I’m getting ratings as low as 34 so another food that needs to mix with grains to complete the amino acid chain and gain value. Add beans slowly to your diet to reduce gas effect and cramping and you will probably be gold.

What is bring spoken of above is “Complete Protein”.

A.mi,

For protein, you said you eat raw nuts but try to stick to raw almonds and raw almond nut butter. Almonds are great sources of protein and because of that, the calories end up really not being too bad on your weight as long as you don’t eat a pound a day haha and there are tons you can actually do with raw almonds for great meal ideas if you’d like some. Also try almond flour, super good and a great substitute for flour in baking, if you have a sweet tooth.

Also GR control (you’ll have to get this through a distributor) puts out a meal replacement protein shake, that actually tastes really good. My mom used it and got off of grains and wheats completely and lowered her refined sugar intake and she lost over 40 pounds in the course of a year. It is a good thing for your body that helps you get the protein you need and keep the weight off. But it takes time, it is not a quick fix, but something that can aid giving your body what you need along with a changed lifestyle.

My naturopath put me on it too, so far my weight is the same, but I am able to tell better when I am full and have less of an appetite, where before I could do neither, so maybe it can help you too! :wink:

I have many other good suggestions for ways to mix up your daily diet too if you at all feel bored or want to know what is good to eat without guilt haha.

You may also research Tempeh (19% protein) and seeds (pumpkin seeds are my favorite now - great taste and they have a lot of iron which is good if you are vegetarian).

BTW, as far as I know, quinoa is a seed, not grain. I’m experimenting with it now. I feel it has great taste potential but still can’t get rid of this soapy flavor :frowning:

[QUOTE=Pawel;65914]BTW, as far as I know, quinoa is a seed, not grain. I’m experimenting with it now. I feel it has great taste potential but still can’t get rid of this soapy flavor :([/QUOTE]
Soapy flavor? Is it organic quinoa? If so, what color?

I make my quinoa as follows:

1 cup organic quinoa
1 cup water
1 cup organic vegetable broth

Bring to a boil. Reduce to low and simmer until the water is all gone. I make a pot full of that every 3 days and my fiance and I enjoy it on our salads or mixed with veggies.

[QUOTE=David;66991]Soapy flavor? Is it organic quinoa? If so, what color?

I make my quinoa as follows:

1 cup organic quinoa
1 cup water
1 cup organic vegetable broth

Bring to a boil. Reduce to low and simmer until the water is all gone. I make a pot full of that every 3 days and my fiance and I enjoy it on our salads or mixed with veggies.[/QUOTE]

I’m trying different types of quinoa. At beginning I used it as a base for a meal (stir fry). It was a lot and maybe that’s why I started to feel weird aspect of its taste. Now I’m doing 50% rice and 50% quinoa (organic, brown) and it works great!

my aim is that we do not need to eat protein in order to make protein., protein is made of aminoacids … and they are everywhere, even in just grass and roots will supply one with protein:)

check out [U]kichari[/U]

Pawel, for the Quinoa I let it soak in water for 20 minutes, rinse, then I cook it. Much better :wink:

[QUOTE=jlg;70044]Pawel, for the Quinoa I let it soak in water for 20 minutes, rinse, then I cook it. Much better ;)[/QUOTE]

Hi jlg,
Thanks for tip, will try!!!

[QUOTE=maxbody;70766]Just to be clear so you don’t think this is a marketing approach. I work with MaxBody.com and I am just providing information and or a recommendation that could be beneficial to this thread.

Whole foods are definitely good for protein, but may I suggest some sort of supplementation for mid-meal snacks. Your body needs approximately 1.5 grams of protein for every 1 lb of body weight. 2.5 grams of carbohydrates per pound of body weight and 0.25 grams of fat per pound of body weight.

We can make some recommendations on products for you or provide you with some links. Just let us know.[/QUOTE]

Did you confuse this forum with the teen section of the bodybuilding.com forums? If you look at the USDA recommendation you will see that it is 0.66 grams of protein per kg of body weight. Which is no where near the 1.5g / pound which is so inflated by the supplement industry.

http://www.iom.edu/Activities/Nutrition/SummaryDRIs/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Nutrition/DRIs/1_%20EARs.pdf

I never knew that it was per kg and not pound! I need less protein than I originally thought.

Spend less time thinking about what form of this or that to eat and more time loving the formless absolute!.. it’s all energy after all… the love and gratitude with which you consume whatever it is you are eating makes it all the better and that is way more important than whatever this or that compound it has… society has become way obsessed with food… it is all in the mind… living based on ideas… living in the mind…

that beings said… i love spirulina! :smiley:

it doesn’t have protein but it has amino acids which your body uses to build protein… bee pollen is bad ass too… the human body has to break down complete proteins like those found in meat and eggs which takes more energy to break down…