Sexual Sublimation

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#1

Anyone know of any good ways to sublimate sexual desires?

Only reason why I would practice masturbation are for ‘lengthening’ exercises and that requires a bit of stimulation, and also might require release once or twice every 1-2 weeks or so from the buildup, or the pulses every time I do it.

I wish I didn’t have to release anything though, and stay in brahmacharya. I want to keep with my practices to become “strong”, but I realize that it may also hinder me from sexual sublimation because of the frequent stimulation, and thus the body getting used to it.

I have a strong desire, but I know I am really unable to find a woman if I had to, and especially, because my strong desire gets in the way. I am also very much into studies but my desires get in the way of that too when I’m trying to be studious.

Should I just forget about sex all together and resign my life off from any sort of sexual contact just so I can study and not have any desire bother me?

I know that once I have sex… it might become uncontrollable, and that is certainly unacceptable if I want to be a studious person. Unless I can find practices to sublimate and enjoy a sex-free life along with the lengthening (although I dont have to do this forever) exercises until I actually do find a partner.

Why do I want to sublimate? Because like I said above whilst I am not having sex, my desire becomes so strong that I am really unable to even find a girlfriend. I’ve never even had a girlfriend in my life thus far and I’m 23 years old and going to college.

I know there are other ways to sublimate, and I’m working on that but I’m trying to find yogic practices.

Regards all

#2

dude, seriously? it is very normal for a 23 year old male to have a strong sex drive, as well as a female. my boyfriend is 23 and we have been dating for over a year and continue to have sex everyday, sometimes twice a day STILL, therefore you can tell i love sex as well and the exploration is endless if you are open to it. in the meantime, jerk off, next step-- find young girlfriend.

#3

[QUOTE=moodra;22013]dude, seriously? it is very normal for a 23 year old male to have a strong sex drive, as well as a female. my boyfriend is 23 and we have been dating for over a year and continue to have sex everyday, sometimes twice a day STILL, therefore you can tell i love sex as well and the exploration is endless if you are open to it. in the meantime, jerk off, next step-- find young girlfriend.[/QUOTE]

my intentions are more to sublime, not even as much to find a lover, that might come secondary. Point is, I want to rewire my brain to withstand no sex, not to expect it and simply to get it off my mind, and “transmute” so I can use the energy for higher purposes when otherwise it would get in the way of my life and finding a girlfriend because I cannot seem to fulfill the desire or even find love when nobody wants to help.:???::???::???::???:

#4

Do you know how harmful it is to over-masturbate, let alone emit (fill in the blank). It leaves very much to be desired, and is a waste of time, energy, and resources. I reserve it only for my practices, or at least try to. And I happen to think sometimes that it actually makes my woman of desire want me more though that might be open to debate.

Apparently you have no problem finding a mate.

#5

Or with any of this. I apologize if I sounded bitter.

#6

Let’s just shake this beehive a bit.

You are right to try brahmacharya if you are without a partner. Do not listen to moodra - she is a young woman, thus she is not in the position to give you advise, first because she is in the other camp, second she is young and inexpereinced. She is probably well intentioned and a charming person, and we all love her, but this does not make her the ultimate advisor, especially when that advise boils down to “dude, jerk off”.

Having a mate, as you rightly asess, is not related to the subject of sublimation. So finding a partner is another subject, and we can discard it here.

I found good advice on yoga-age.com, in Sri Swami Sivananda’s brahmacharya article. You might try to read that to find out what he teaches and if you can relate to it.
Sex is all in the mind. Any serious spiritual aspirant must learn self-(mind) control to the level what makes total brahmacharya possible. This does not mean that one never makes love, it only means that one has aquired the ability to be “king of his domain” as Mr. Seinfeld said in an episode of his sitcom. It is doable, but it takes a lot of practice. It is good exercise in discipline, and not at all harmful as many think, justifying their inability to rule their lower vital nature.
In fact, this is a requirement for a certain sexual maturity, and it might mean the difference between having sex and the ability to make love.

#7

Nice… yea I’ve always been interested in sexual transmutation and brahmacharya. “all in the mind” though? I don’t think so.

I think… at a certain level it is all in the mind. Though perhaps the mind can overcome the lower levels of sex where it becomes physical, instinctual and “hardwired” into the biology of the human species to the point that it becomes dependent on it.

Sivananda has had some good articles on brahmacharya.

Thanks for the tips.

Peace

#8

Throughout, " Light on Yoga ", there are several asanas that help to bring sexual energy upwards towards ultimate expression at the top of the head, through the Chakras. Sexual urges are in the mind when the mind rules. There is so much subjugation of an individual by sexual urges it is obviously one horse that must be rode ( and therefore controlled ) or it will ride you. One exercise that works remarkably well is the so-called Sixth Tibetan, of the fairly famous Five Tibetans ( worth looking into ) : whenever you feel the urge do uddiyana bandha at a 90* angle- bending from the waist blow out all your air and then do a false inhalation i.e. you are not inhaling but you act as though you are- that creates a vacuum in the gut and keeps the belly drawn in without strain. I tried it and it was immediately effective, very cause and effect type thing. On an unrelated note : there are many women out there-somewhere, probably keeping a low-profile, who also think they have no chance of mating successfully. Keep studying - the market favors product improvements-the coolness attained by a personality freed from sexual and other pressures . is attractive also. Namaste

#9

There are youtube demonstations of the Five Tibetans and the Sixth Tibetan and you can google them as well. later

#10

Awesome. I’ve read of the Sixth Rite in another book by Sebastian Heller which was never published called “Advanced Sexual Practices” but that book may be mixed in with a lot of deception whether it was conscious or not.

Do you have any links to the REAL Five Tibetan Rites routine? There has been some conflicting sources. Especially as regards how to do the breathing, when to breathe in/out and starting positions.

Same for Yoga and any other practice… never know what is right sometimes and all the different sources on the internet with differing techniques, let alone the books, doesn’t help much either.

I’m sure there are like super esoteric exercises for this kind of thing, I just want to find the real thing and stop the suffering once and for all. Doing research can give a headache though, and u dont know what is credible and what isn’t.

I will be doing some research then.

I guess the only way to do so would be to listen to my ‘gut’ but even I have to retrain myself to using the gut-brain properly.

Regards

#11

You can google and youtube this for several websites. Here’s one that is pretty authentic www.t5t.com . I read the original book and the modern companion book and the rites seem straightforward and simple. There’s degrees of how well you do it, as with everything,-and according to the book, it is suggested that you incrementally build up repetitions by 3 a week until you reach 21, even if you feel like you can do more. The reasoning is that it’s not aerobics and that what you are doing is getting the chakras to spin how they should. So starting out with 21 can be too much too soon to get a good spin-literally in the case of Rite #1, which probably stymies most people - the rest are relatively easy- there are different tricks- the one that I use is to stare at my middle finger during the spins and to keep the nausea etc. down , I immediately put my hands in the prayer position on my chest and look at the thumbs. This works very well. and I am a person especially sensitive to spinning-usually makes me sick fast. When I did the above tricks I could do 21 spins at high speed with no problem. I did it for 3 months daily and I did not notice any dramatic difference in my life. I am very healthy and fit anyway and I guess that’s why. The 6th rite I did notice dramatic results though, that’s why I suggested it to you. It works. I think many asanas work that way but slower and less dramatically. Keep practicing. Things take time. Namaste

#12

If you practice enough in any manner, I think you’ll get to a point where your body tells you what is the right thing to do. In the 5 Tibetans it’s usually breathing in going up and breathing out going down. Deep breaths are better than shallow. So far as I know there isn’t anything complicated about it. Namaste

#13

Some call the 6th rite Uddiyana Bhanda . Not sure if it’s the exact one. The 6th rite is the same way except some say it has to be done standing, bending over for the exhaling, and on the way up lifting the shoulders and opening up chest, while supposedly also pushing down on the hips with hands.

Im not sure exactly which exact muscles need to be contracted, or not, exactly where Im supposed to feel it, etc.

W/e. I must have done it like 30 times yesterday and I felt somethnig at first, but I still had the sexual urge… I just felt my self getting numb and lessend urge to ejaculate, perhaps from the pulling in of the gonads with the ‘fake inbreath, stomach pulling in’ lol, yet still had the physical ‘itch’ or tingling/stimulating sensation of sexual desire on the nerves, perhaps from stimulating them so much in the past, but hopefully that will go away. I think the nerves are just so used to producing those chemical ingredients which stimulate but hopefully that could go away?

I am also afraid that if I dont ‘stimulate’ myself over a long period of time, it might become weaker or render ‘inactive’, perhaps shrink in a little, perhaps like a atrophied muscle, and that might kill any sort of attraction.

#14

Bent over uddiyana Bandha is what I did that was effective; plus I do a full practice of asana with several that would raise the root energy. I don’t think at your age you need to worry about any withering-just stay healthy and nature will keep you ready. Too much and too regular of their own stimulation can, in some cases , cause a person to fixate on themselves as the main source of sexual expression. I don’t say that it’s unnatural or bad, just that it’s regularity can be a rut that tends to maintain itself, possibly even at the expense of other opportunities. You’ll survive youth, believe or not- though if you believe it you’ll have a better mind-set. Namaste.

#15

[I]“The realization of one’s sublimely great ideals brings a “joy” that makes the gratification of commonplace desires a triviality.”[/I]

[I]From the book “Philosophy of Freedom” by Rudolf Steiner[/I]

#16

Hi TheSt0rm,

It takes years. When i was 23, i also had a strong desire. Practice full range yoga (asanas, nadhi shodhana, meditation) and be patient. Sex drive is not sublimated in a day, it’s so deep, so rooted… it might take your whole life to sublimate it completely.
In the meantime try to withhold your seed at least for two weeks, and then release and enjoy. Don’t watch porn. Try not looking at young ladies in the streets.

And bear this in mind, brahmacharya is not a practice, it’s a STATE. A state to which you naturally arrive. Do not repress too much, remember AHIMSA (non violence), first yama in yoga.

Good luck friend

#17

hi panoramix, do u have a certain discipline of yoga to recommend?

the pornography bit, ive had trouble with because I want to do jelq exercises which require stimulation, and without it ive had trouble doing it…

#18

if only I could awaken the kundalini or something. or just do without it.

I don’t really true to practice yoga a lot. I think it’s ridden with a lot of analytic overlays, though some of it is quite good.

for now… I think the 6th tibetan rite, or ‘bent over uddiyana bandha’ has helped. I will continue in my research of yoga though. Nauli looks good too.

regards

#19

Ok, but awakening Kundalini won’t help but could even worsen…

I have no discipline to recommend cos i’ve practiced only two forms of yoga, hatha and kundalini. Hatha helps, no doubt. As to Kundalini Yoga, Sat Kriya is said to be special for sex sublimating, i haven’t practiced.

#20

I don’t know. I like what Moodra said. Spank it Dude and don’t get hung up on the fact that you are a frickin’ Bonobo Ape. I don’t care how spiritual people think they are, any human will always respond to the biological premordial drive to procreate. It is just what it is.