[QUOTE=Nietzsche;44978]Haha thats interesting.[/QUOTE]
Do you live in the US?
Do you use the handle “Nietzsche” because you admire his teachings or because you oppose them?
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;44978]Haha thats interesting.[/QUOTE]
Do you live in the US?
Do you use the handle “Nietzsche” because you admire his teachings or because you oppose them?
I admire much of his philosophy (though there are things I disagree with) and he is among my most favorite philosophers. However, the reason I put that as my forum name over those of other philosophers is because I love the way it looks and sounds. XD.
I do live in the U.S. Why do you wish to know?
Why do I want to know?
Because if I knew what country you’re in, I could easily hunt you down, and then subject you to the usual torture recommended for Hindus, unless of course you would swear to stop worshipping cows.
But you seem to be a nice guy, so I would probably would spare you all that if you simply begged for mercy.
Aside from the above, I’m just curious. I’m just trying to understand your culture and how that affects your perspective.
I don’t know much about Nietzsche, except that isn’t he famous for asserting that “god is dead”?
What is your belief about god and about eternal life?
:o I KNEW IT! But I can use my awesome Hindu powers and disassociate my soul from my body temporarily so you would be torturing nothing.
Well my view of g/G-od is a mix of Advaita, Deistic, and Islamic conceptions of g/G-od. Eternal life? No I just believe the samsara/moksha concept of typical Hindus/Buddhists.
As for Nietzsche, he was known for his concepts of Nihilism and “Perceptivism.” I am considering getting hold on his most famous book, Thus Spoke Zarathustra. I am having a hard time discerning what it is about because the summaries on the back cover are so vague. From what I could gather, its a criticism of Christian/Judaic perceptions on morals and ethics and deals with the concept of the “overman” or “oversoul” (which is indirectly supposed to warn against Christian views of other-worldliness). It is his perceptivism concept with I find some disagreement with but you can find his quote on it in your “Surya Deva tolerance something” which someone was using to argue against my viewpoints.
some things. Worshipping Cows. LOL Those Crazy Indians with their secrets and symbols. Cow worshipping!!! As with most religious symbols there is outer, inner, and secret meanings. But we make jokes. (for the record I like your jokes!)
Ah La La.
On Neitzche. I read him. and put him down. Reading him is like growing an infection. One that will make you looney and die. Like he did.
and Finally. Retiring to a forest is not a requirement to achieve spiritual goals.
Make due with what you got. Mine the acres of diamonds under your own feet. and any other beat down cliches that fit.
and P.S. for the saintly types with human bodies there really isn’t much need to worry about finances, or this or that, for what he needs will come without much fuss…
Believe it or Not.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;44968]Far to literal in your interpretation. That line basically meant someone who sees no worth in material objects. And this person would view gold as hardly any more valuable than the sand or stone its surrounded by.[/QUOTE]
Far too orthodox in your interpretation. That line basically meant someone who sees all objects as not objects but a the manifestations of but one mother maya. And this person would view gold as something he could buy a tasty sandwhich with. Go try to get a delicious sandwhich with a palm full of sand…
Well reading him, in your case, would cause you to grow an infection that will destroy your Christian bias. Which is why you don’t like it.
That interpretation is also true (the maya part) and is the more general interpretation. I wanted to be a bit more specific for Thomas since he might not have know the terminology.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;45392]Well reading him, in your case, would cause you to grow an infection that will destroy your Christian bias. Which is why you don’t like it.
That interpretation is also true (the maya part) and is the more general interpretation. I wanted to be a bit more specific for Thomas since he might not have know the terminology.[/QUOTE]
Yawn. The old tired christain bias routine.
Sounds like you got one note and it’s gone flat.
I also like how you got a little dig in there at me. You’ll say “what me?” Thats what people do who identify with ego and thought Thier phantamagoria of a self gets it’s little feelings hurt. It takes over and tries hurt back.
Neitchze I read him. Learned some things elsewhere. Read some of him again and just found him to be vile.
I threw the book in the trash.
Most philosophers are egotistical blowhards in love with dancing around with themselves.
They may be clever and have nice intellects but they have no access to real wisdom unless - they are spiritually evolved to some degree.
It was quite apparent that the man was distrubed, socially inept, and had the spiritual development of a slug. But hey we all gotta start somewhere right? Hopefully he’s doing better now - wherever he is.
Maybe its because you know its the truth and you get tired of people pointing out the obvious. Maybe its because thats what many people like you have and I have no problem pointing it out repeatedly, especially when they try to disguise it.
Cool story bro. Say what you will about philosophers but they do have valuable insights and enriching alternate perspectives for their times. It is obvious you don’t like Nietzsche because his views strongly conflict with yours. “Thats what people do who identify with ego and thought. Their…self gets its little feelings hurt.” I, for one, can definitely understand why his views are they way they are. Which is why I appreciate him, among many other philosophers, even though I might not agree entirely with him/them.
And the real reason why I made my forum name “Nietzsche” was not because I like his teachings more than any other philosophers but because I like the way his name sounds and looks. I think I have mentioned that already. I could easily have put Kant or Schopenhauer, but Nietzsche is quiet a unique name…
The reason TS does not like philosophers is because they think for themselves They are not thoughtless hippies going around telling people “Shut up, do some weed”
Eveything this guys says is fatuous.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;46200]The reason TS does not like philosophers is because they think for themselves They are not thoughtless hippies going around telling people “Shut up, do some weed”
Eveything this guys says is fatuous.[/QUOTE]
Haha so true. It is kind of obvious that Scales does partake of various…substances.
I love being in the wilderness, I find that it is one of the places that I am at peace with my thoughts
Should we Abandon Materialism and go into the wilderness?
Not today… but maybe next week…
It is almost impossible to live in wilderness now. Unless one has the dedication of Henry David Thoreau, that is.
[QUOTE=High Wolf;46647]It is almost impossible to live in wilderness now. Unless one has the dedication of Henry David Thoreau, that is.[/QUOTE]
Oh I assure you, Thoreau had much help from the surrounding community (especially from Mr and Mrs Emerson in terms of some provisions and materials. Living in the wilderness is most difficult to financially accomplish in a capitalistic world. As happened with the Oneida settlement in the 1800’s…they had noble goals and sought to live in simplicity and in accordance with their views (which were directly in contrast with Christian values of the day). However, their ventures were financially costly and they ended up turning into the capitalist company of kitchen utensils we know today. :D.
[QUOTE=High Wolf;46647]It is almost impossible to live in wilderness now. Unless one has the dedication of Henry David Thoreau, that is.[/QUOTE]
I’ve been slowly reading Walden.
It’s very interesting, but what he did was an experiment, and he wasn’t far removed from civilization. I think he lived in the little cabin he built (on the land of a friend’s) for no more than two years, and then went back to regular living and went back to the family pencil factory/business. Sadly, he did not profit from his writings and he was not famous until after he was gone.
[QUOTE=thomas;46701]I’ve been slowly reading Walden.
It’s very interesting, but what he did was an experiment, and he wasn’t far removed from civilization. I think he lived in the little cabin he built (on the land of a friend’s) for no more than two years, and then went back to regular living and went back to the family pencil factory/business. Sadly, he did not profit from his writings and he was not famous until after he was gone.[/QUOTE]
Me too! I am currently finishing up a project dealing with transcendentalism. One of the passages I quoted in the process was from Walden. The chapter on solitude. Hope you enjoy the book anyways (and the fact that you might finish before me due to all the work I have this week).
I was surprised at what an amazing and wicked sense of humor he has.
I skimmed through this book when I was very young, but now I understand the jokes and his sarcastic comments.
I’m not sure if I will finish all that soon. I’m reading it VERY slowly.
[QUOTE=thomas;46753]I was surprised at what an amazing and wicked sense of humor he has.
I skimmed through this book when I was very young, but now I understand the jokes and his sarcastic comments.
I’m not sure if I will finish all that soon. I’m reading it VERY slowly.[/QUOTE]
Already finishing the 1st and longest chapter! Just kidding…By the way, did you buy the book? Because there are free versions you can find online…
[QUOTE=The Scales;45407]… It was quite apparent that the man was [B]disturbed[/B], [B]socially inept[/B], and [B]had the spiritual development of a slug[/B]. But hey we all gotta start somewhere right? Hopefully he’s doing better now - wherever he is.[/QUOTE]
Strange how member_Nietzsche is so like his namesake…