Should we Abandon Materialism and go into the wilderness

I have an old paperback copy. I don’t like to read books on a computer anyway.

Another interesting book from that era is The Oregon Trail.

I’m not really a history buff, but it was a fascinating and entertaining account.

GASP* heresy! OmG! This is the 21st century! SacRilEGgE FoR nOt rEaDiNG b00kZ on zE comput0r! YOU SHALLZ BE burnZD at ZE STAKEZ.

A Kindle would be cool, though.

[QUOTE=thomas;46759]I have an old paperback copy. I don’t like to read books on a computer anyway.

Another interesting book from that era is The Oregon Trail.

I’m not really a history buff, but it was a fascinating and entertaining account.[/QUOTE]

I have lots of books on PDF (seriously, like over 50gigs), but I just can’t see replacing my paper library with a “Kindle” (that name gives me the wiggins when I combine it with the activity of reading). Besides, often I have two or three books open at once, I need to quickly reference things. How many “Kindles” will I need?
I don’t think they’ll be replacing paper books any time soon. Maybe sometime in the near future they’ll start making book paper out of hemp or some more sustainable source, I’d like that…

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;46684]Oh I assure you, Thoreau had much help from the surrounding community (especially from Mr and Mrs Emerson in terms of some provisions and materials. Living in the wilderness is most difficult to financially accomplish in a capitalistic world. As happened with the Oneida settlement in the 1800’s…they had noble goals and sought to live in simplicity and in accordance with their views (which were directly in contrast with Christian values of the day). However, their ventures were financially costly and they ended up turning into the capitalist company of kitchen utensils we know today. :D.[/QUOTE]

didn’t they do his laundry?

[QUOTE=findingtheway324;46818]didn’t they do his laundry?[/QUOTE]

Hmm, I’m not sure. I was researching for my project and I stumbled upon information of Mr and Mrs Emerson helping him out where it was most necessary. I didn’t bother to read it extensively and the information wasn’t too specific anyways. But if you look at the book itself, you will see that Thoreau mentions receiving numerous provisions from people who happened to drop by (food, clothing, etc) and numerous visitors who conversed with him and provided him with various supplies and gifts.

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;46825]Hmm, I’m not sure. I was researching for my project and I stumbled upon information of Mr and Mrs Emerson helping him out where it was most necessary. I didn’t bother to read it extensively and the information wasn’t too specific anyways. But if you look at the book itself, you will see that Thoreau mentions receiving numerous provisions from people who happened to drop by (food, clothing, etc) and numerous visitors who conversed with him and provided him with various supplies and gifts.[/QUOTE]

Yes, he did live in Emerson’s own land, and he wasn’t quite away from the civilization, but dwelled just about the outskirts of Concord. Regardless of whatever help he received, he ventured to do an experiment, and sought for the answers to the heart of man out from the natural world. Thoreau was a firm practitioner of embodiment, and ardently supported the existing order of the world.

However, he did not abandon materialism, per se. The way he lived was also quite away from a traditional hunter-gatherer man. His resignation was of economy, and of the way economy had begun to govern all affairs of developing communities.

Thoreau was all against the increasing symbolic economies taking control of man’s contact with his natural surroundings, and diminishing men’s capacity to gaze at nature properly (which is a spiritual undertaking). He was also against the government who had begun to take the political power from public. An anarhcist he was, yet a noble savage, he believed it never actually existed!

[QUOTE=High Wolf;46867]Yes, he did live in Emerson’s own land, and he wasn’t quite away from the civilization, but dwelled just about the outskirts of Concord. Regardless of whatever help he received, he ventured to do an experiment, and sought for the answers to the heart of man out from the natural world. Thoreau was a firm practitioner of embodiment, and ardently supported the existing order of the world.

However, he did not abandon materialism, per se. The way he lived was also quite away from a traditional hunter-gatherer man. His resignation was of economy, and of the way economy had begun to govern all affairs of developing communities.

Thoreau was all against the increasing symbolic economies taking control of man’s contact with his natural surroundings, and diminishing men’s capacity to gaze at nature properly (which is a spiritual undertaking). He was also against the government who had begun to take the political power from public. An anarhcist he was, yet a noble savage, he believed it never actually existed![/QUOTE]

I could discern that from reading the “Solitude” chapter. Nonetheless, his insights are interesting and remarkable for their time.

did he abandon everything and go into the wilderness then?

[QUOTE=kareng;47777]did he abandon everything and go into the wilderness then?[/QUOTE]

You mean H.D.Thoreau? Not exactly. He experiencially lived in the outskirts of Concord for nearly two years. During that time, he left the management of his father’s pen company, and settled in Emerson’s land. Unlike many people think, his was not a romantic escape or such; his was a scientific experiment to elevate himself spiritually through embodied natural world experience - something I like to call “ecophenomenology”.