Some light on Kriya Yoga

[Yulaw]

[QUOTE=oak333;40843]From my DIRECT experience is mostly meditation, high class. You also learn energization exercises .

Very important is that you learn concentration and how to heal yourself-and maybe others- by the power of will, which draws energy (prana, life force,
vital force, qi…) and directs it to the diseased body part. E. g. you learn
how to direct energy to heal your knees etc.

There are also lessons on pranayama.

This is practice, practice, practice.

There are also other things: either I do not know them yet or just too many to list.[/QUOTE]

Thank you

It actually sound very similar to Qigong training.

[core789]

Kriya yoga capitalises on the power of the breath. The jet-plane to enlightenement. It can be very powerful stuff.Asanas are optional. I’m not sure if meditation proper is something though they prescribe though once you’ve made inroads,advanced and porgressed. with your kundalilni.

Kirya means action. I beleive kriya pranayam or spinal breathing is their biggest tool.That is what is usually meant by kriya yoga but there many schools and they all may do things sightly differently with different emphases,tool-suites and routes of progression.There are different lineages.
There the SelfRealization Fellowship borne from Yogananda, Kriyananda I think and others…You might get filled in better from someone that has been affiliated with such a shool.But to simplify,it basically kriya pranayam mentally tracing routes with the energetic system, often following the spinal nerve, root to brow(some system even go to th crown) and some (Satyananda) seem to be even more elaborate & sophisticated and taking orbital routes tracing the chakras up bothe front and back of the energetic body, through the third-eye & bindu( pt. at the back of the head)…I forget all the schools but i’ve looked at the rpinciples and practices of a few and saw how they contrast in places.

[oak333]

As Yogananda said: a gram of practice is worth more than a tonne of theory.

Just try to practice it.

[G_T]

Kriya Yoga
I would like to invite you to see the link about Kriya Yoga: kriyayoga.org.in
As most of you probably know,
Kriya Yoga is a Science of Body, Mind & Spirit. It contains a few techniques, which are very ancient, secret and scientific. This Yoga gives simultaneous development of our body, mind and soul i.e. spirit. The very moment we start practising Kriya Yoga, we can easily and instantly elevate ourselves physically, mentally, morally, intellectually and spiritually.

GuruJi Yogacharya Tapan Bose is an Enilghtened Master of Kriya Yoga, initiated into Kriya Yoga at the age of 8, by Paramhamsa Hariharananda. You can contact him on email: yogacharya_bosemahasaya@yahoo.com
He lives in Kolkata in India.

Welcome!

Tadeia.

[Lars_Rimb_ck]

[quote=Pandara;32774]There are in total 8 kriyas. The first four as I understood it from my teacher is given to you each upon initiation. Kriyas 5-8 is not given but rather sensed intuitively by the kriyawitan (person who does kriya yoga).

Here with follow a description of the first five practices that is the First Kriya:

[B]1. Talabya Kriya[/B]

Talabya Kriya or Kechari Mudra helps to achieve the state of Tranquil breath while practiced in conjunction with Pranayam. It is an essential precondition before a Kriyanwita is introduced to the next kriya.

In the words of Lahiri Mahasay, ?Putting the tongue into the head or to the area between the eyebrows provides one to be able to connect the individual self of the seeker to the cosmic Consciousness or inner Consciousness of the inner Self, the Kutastha.?
Start off with 50 mudras in the morning and increase over time to 100.

[B]2. Kriya Pranayam[/B]

The [B]Downward Journey[/B] (you do 12 of them of 22 seconds each) as pointed out by Lahiri Mahasay himself is divided into four steps:

1. Raising the tongue in kechari mudra, breathing in using Ujjayi pranayama, as you breathe in visualize the breath running down the shushumna nadi from ajna chakra down to mooladhara chakra.
2. crossing rudra granthi (= psychic knot) at the level of vishuddha chakra,
3. crossing vishnu granthi at the level of manipura chakra and finally,
4. crossing brahma granti at the level of mooladhara chakra.

The [B]Upward Journey[/B] (you do 12 of them of 22 seconds each) takes the same route back, as you release the Ujjayi breath you visualize the breath running up shushumna nadi starting at the level of kundalini shakti just below mooladhara chakra.

1. crossing mooladhara chakra
2. crossing swadisthana chakra,
3. crossing anahata chakra
4. crossing vishuddha chakra and come to rest in ajna chakra

Repeat the next round.

[B]3. Navi Kriya[/B]

Start by doing Pratistha: repeating Om once at the level of each chakra, starting from mooladhara to ajna chakra and visualize it at the back of the spine.

[B]To do Navi Kriya[/B] ? Visualize navi chakra on the front of your body a little lower than manipura chakra at the back along the spine. Use ujjayi breathing in, swallow, hold and apply jalandhara bandha and repeat Om inwardly into navi chakra. Release the bandha and then the breath. Repeat 4 times in total. On the 5th you breathe in (ujjayi pranayama), but throw your head slowly back and repeat Om inwardly into manipura chakra visualized on the back of the spine. In the end you should end up doing 100 Om?s into navi and 25 into manipura.

End off kriya by doing Visarjan: exactly same as Pratistha, but you start from ajna working down to mooladhara.

[B]4. Yoni Mudra[/B]

Start by doing Pratistha: repeating Om once at the level of each chakra, starting from mooladhara to ajna chakra and visualize it as the back of the spine.

Many people teach Shanmukhi mudra as yoni mudra here, however I belief it is a mistake. This is what Shibendu taught us:

Sit in padma asana and assume yoni mudra with the hands. Apply kechari mudra and by ujjayi pranayama breathing in while all your attention is in ajna. Once the breath has been completed repeat Om into ajna and release the breath.

This kriya is practiced once every night before going to bed.

End off kriya by doing Visarjan: exactly same as Pratistha, but you start from ajna working down to mooladhara.

[B]5. Maha Mudra[/B]

Start by doing Pratistha: repeating Om once at the level of each chakra, starting from mooladhara to ajna chakra and visualize it as the back of the spine.

Sit in utthan padasana, with right leg out stretched.
Perform kechari mudra.
Take deep breath in, while exhaling bend forward and clasp big toe with both hands.
Slowly inhale, keep head up and spine as straight as possible, repeat Om into ajna once.
Release, come up by slowly exhaling.
This is one round, repeat 12 times.

Repeat 12 times to the left.

Repeat 12 times with both legs stretched out forward.

End off kriya by doing Visarjan: exactly same as Pratistha, but you start from ajna working down to mooladhara.

[I][B]Important Notice:[/B] May I ask that if you follow these practices that you treat them as sacred and with the necessary respect they deserve and apply them with an attitude of gratitude and reverence to the Divine for the great opportunity you have received to have access to this kriya. Most importantly, please stick to your practice, get a teacher if you don’t have one, because your awareness will change and you will need the guidance of a loving teacher along the way.[/I]

Blessings to all and thanks to the Divine.[/quote]

Dear Pandara

I honor your will to share this practsise but a bunch of questions are rising when I read your post.

1. Did you ever think about that these techniks shouldn`t be pubilished to protect the student?
   2.If anyone is loosing the ground under his or her feets doing what you post here freely, who will be there to guide her or him?
   3.If anyone doing it enters the breathlless state, and his mates or family gets frightend who will go there to support them.
2. Did you ever think about karmic results for you as the poster of this, if any seeker get`s lost or crazy doing Kriya Yoga without proper guideance?

The path of Kriya Yoga the fastest way to god but it is very narrow and slippy and not realy free of danger if the practise isn`t done properly.
Without the sincere love and devotion for the divine its just another technique that can me misused and bring up very much karmic results for the seeker, and since you brother Pandara gave these techniques here this will also be your karma.

Love and ligth
Lars

[Pandara]

[quote=Lars Rimb?ck;49866]Dear Pandara

I honor your will to share this practsise but a bunch of questions are rising when I read your post.

1. Did you ever think about that these techniks shouldn`t be pubilished to protect the student?
   2.If anyone is loosing the ground under his or her feets doing what you post here freely, who will be there to guide her or him?
   3.If anyone doing it enters the breathlless state, and his mates or family gets frightend who will go there to support them.
2. Did you ever think about karmic results for you as the poster of this, if any seeker get`s lost or crazy doing Kriya Yoga without proper guideance?

The path of Kriya Yoga the fastest way to god but it is very narrow and slippy and not realy free of danger if the practise isn`t done properly.
Without the sincere love and devotion for the divine its just another technique that can me misused and bring up very much karmic results for the seeker, and since you brother Pandara gave these techniques here this will also be your karma.

Love and ligth
Lars[/quote]

Namaste Lars,

I appreciate your concern. However, Sri Shebendu is sharing freely and he asked us to share freely as well one day and I am following his injucntion concerning this.

[quote=Lars Rimb?ck;49866]1. Did you ever think about that these techniks shouldn`t be pubilished to protect the student?
[/quote]

This is the first of the 8 Kriyas and are freely available in many sources and as I understood it from Shr Shebendu the first kriya poses no great danger even to the uninitiated practitioner.

2.If anyone is loosing the ground under his or her feets doing what you post here freely, who will be there to guide her or him?

As mentioned above, it was imparted to me by Sri Shibendu and my own teacher that these practices are save and hold no great uncontrolled dangers to the student. The first kriya as I as taught by Sri Shibendu is more prepatory for the more advanced work that follow later in the other kriyas.

3.If anyone doing it enters the breathlless state, and his mates or family gets frightend who will go there to support them.

Not lilkely to happen. Only in the later kriyas. Please understand that this is the first kriyas and mainly harmless.

4. Did you ever think about karmic results for you as the poster of this, if any seeker get`s lost or crazy doing Kriya Yoga without proper guideance?

Yes, i did and I accept them, ie the karma, freely, thank you.

[quote=Lars Rimb?ck;49866]The path of Kriya Yoga the fastest way to god but it is very narrow and slippy and not realy free of danger if the practise isn`t done properly.
Without the sincere love and devotion for the divine its just another technique that can me misused and bring up very much karmic results for the seeker, and since you brother Pandara gave these techniques here this will also be your karma.[/quote]

Thank you for reminding me, i am fully aware of this. I didn’t just posted this kriya without thinking, the indication by my guides was clear, that it was ok for me to publish it, as it is already widely avaialble on other sites. Please also read my important notice at the end.

Lars, I hardly just ever write something because I want to or at a whim, most of what I write I am guided about and as such I follow and trust the Divine Light that guides me in everything I do, even in publishing the first Kriya.

I trust this clear your concerns and leads you to less attachment about the outcome for me on this. It is my karma, thank you.

[Lars_Rimb_ck]

Namaste Pandara

I wouldnt post the concern about the breathless state one migth enter doing the first Kriyas if I didnt see it happen.
We are from different Kriya Yoga schools.
I?m a student of Yogiraj SatGurunath Siddhanath and as well familiar with the practise Yogananda once gave.
It looks like there are some differences within the Kriyas you got taugth and the ones we do pratise and the Srf techniques which are the same that we do.
Joni Mudra as well as Nabhi Kriya belong to the more advanced Kriyas in the teaching of SRF as well as in the Hamsa Yoga Sangh.
Yes people published a lot of the sacred practise, some of them offer online initiation and if you google their names very very ugly things about them are going around.
I want post any Name here, but just want to mention that there are people hanging out drunk, having relations with under age Prostitutes and and and, if this people claim to be authorised to initiate into Kriya Yoga this appears simply as a bad joke to me.
[B]To say it very clearly this one is not for you my brother Pandara, I think you are an honest man.[/B]
But I would`nt take this people as a reference.
In another thread of this forum you tried to support a person which went completly out of balance, doing Kriya Practise without proper guidance, so this One thinks you know for energetical unbalanced, psychological unstable and not properly prepared persons also the first Kriya are not free of danger.

Ligth and Love
Lars

[Guest113]

Pandera,

Most of the traditions of yoga will all claim that initiation is required. It is not just the case with yoga, but all of the spiritual traditions. And it is simply because unless the master-disciple relationship is emphasized, the tradition will simply not survive. Masters who are teaching need disciples, and there have been many cases where lineages have simply dissapeared because the master was unable to find a suitable disciple to transmit the teaching and it’s methods. Even today, the methods of the tantric Buddhists are almost extinct. Not only because of this, but because they have remained so secretive about their methods, that this added even more to the situation - they got fewer and fewer disciples.

This aside, you can practice yoga without the need of a master or a guru if you equip yourself with the right knowledge, or if you are willing to take a risky approach and do some trial and error before you begin to gather a sense of the way. That it is impossible to attain “success” without the help of a guru is just nonsense. How is it that the first masters who had discovered these methods come to their understanding ? There was nobody there before them to learn from, the work was alone in the alone. When you are entering into any new territory, it is the case. And they had to inquire as deeply as possible before coming to their discoveries. Only then, in an attempt to make it easier for others to progress along the path, they started teaching.

So it is possible to progress in yoga towards one’s enlightenment without initiation or a guru. In the East, they are known as pratyekabuddhas. Pratyekabuddha literally means a “long Buddha”, one who has come to awakening without the guidance of a master. Gautama Buddha was one of the pratyekabuddhas. But it is also important for one to be aware that it is going to be difficult. In some cases, because of the personality of the disciple himself, it is almost impossible. It is a bit like trying to learn quantum physics from scratch, without any prior training, going to a university, or a teacher.

[Suhas_Tambe]

did you mean “lone Buddha”? Pratyeka means ‘everyone by oneself’.

[gnulnx]

[QUOTE=Pandara;32774]There are in total 8 kriyas. The first four as I understood it from my teacher is given to you each upon initiation. Kriyas 5-8 is not given but rather sensed intuitively by the kriyawitan (person who does kriya yoga).

Here with follow a description of the first five practices that is the First Kriya:

[B]1. Talabya Kriya[/B]

Talabya Kriya or Kechari Mudra helps to achieve the state of Tranquil breath while practiced in conjunction with Pranayam. It is an essential precondition before a Kriyanwita is introduced to the next kriya.

In the words of Lahiri Mahasay, ?Putting the tongue into the head or to the area between the eyebrows provides one to be able to connect the individual self of the seeker to the cosmic Consciousness or inner Consciousness of the inner Self, the Kutastha.?
Start off with 50 mudras in the morning and increase over time to 100.

[B]2. Kriya Pranayam[/B]

The [B]Downward Journey[/B] (you do 12 of them of 22 seconds each) as pointed out by Lahiri Mahasay himself is divided into four steps:

1. Raising the tongue in kechari mudra, breathing in using Ujjayi pranayama, as you breathe in visualize the breath running down the shushumna nadi from ajna chakra down to mooladhara chakra.
2. crossing rudra granthi (= psychic knot) at the level of vishuddha chakra,
3. crossing vishnu granthi at the level of manipura chakra and finally,
4. crossing brahma granti at the level of mooladhara chakra.

The [B]Upward Journey[/B] (you do 12 of them of 22 seconds each) takes the same route back, as you release the Ujjayi breath you visualize the breath running up shushumna nadi starting at the level of kundalini shakti just below mooladhara chakra.

1. crossing mooladhara chakra
2. crossing swadisthana chakra,
3. crossing anahata chakra
4. crossing vishuddha chakra and come to rest in ajna chakra

Repeat the next round.

[B]3. Navi Kriya[/B]

Start by doing Pratistha: repeating Om once at the level of each chakra, starting from mooladhara to ajna chakra and visualize it at the back of the spine.

[B]To do Navi Kriya[/B] ? Visualize navi chakra on the front of your body a little lower than manipura chakra at the back along the spine. Use ujjayi breathing in, swallow, hold and apply jalandhara bandha and repeat Om inwardly into navi chakra. Release the bandha and then the breath. Repeat 4 times in total. On the 5th you breathe in (ujjayi pranayama), but throw your head slowly back and repeat Om inwardly into manipura chakra visualized on the back of the spine. In the end you should end up doing 100 Om?s into navi and 25 into manipura.

End off kriya by doing Visarjan: exactly same as Pratistha, but you start from ajna working down to mooladhara.

[B]4. Yoni Mudra[/B]

Start by doing Pratistha: repeating Om once at the level of each chakra, starting from mooladhara to ajna chakra and visualize it as the back of the spine.

Many people teach Shanmukhi mudra as yoni mudra here, however I belief it is a mistake. This is what Shibendu taught us:

Sit in padma asana and assume yoni mudra with the hands. Apply kechari mudra and by ujjayi pranayama breathing in while all your attention is in ajna. Once the breath has been completed repeat Om into ajna and release the breath.

This kriya is practiced once every night before going to bed.

End off kriya by doing Visarjan: exactly same as Pratistha, but you start from ajna working down to mooladhara.

[B]5. Maha Mudra[/B]

Start by doing Pratistha: repeating Om once at the level of each chakra, starting from mooladhara to ajna chakra and visualize it as the back of the spine.

Sit in utthan padasana, with right leg out stretched.
Perform kechari mudra.
Take deep breath in, while exhaling bend forward and clasp big toe with both hands.
Slowly inhale, keep head up and spine as straight as possible, repeat Om into ajna once.
Release, come up by slowly exhaling.
This is one round, repeat 12 times.

Repeat 12 times to the left.

Repeat 12 times with both legs stretched out forward.

End off kriya by doing Visarjan: exactly same as Pratistha, but you start from ajna working down to mooladhara.

[I][B]Important Notice:[/B] May I ask that if you follow these practices that you treat them as sacred and with the necessary respect they deserve and apply them with an attitude of gratitude and reverence to the Divine for the great opportunity you have received to have access to this kriya. Most importantly, please stick to your practice, get a teacher if you don’t have one, because your awareness will change and you will need the guidance of a loving teacher along the way.[/I]

Blessings to all and thanks to the Divine.[/QUOTE]

Hum. everything I’ve read and learned suggests that the Kriya Pranayama that you are practicing is backwards.

On the inhale the energy is moved from the Base to the crown. Pause. Exhale pushing the energy back down.

For those saying you can’t find accurate Kryia online that’s not true any longer.

I was going to post a three part book showing this, but I guess I can’t post links until I have posted 15 times… If we can get around that limit I’d be glad to post the links for all to see.

You do not need initiation to practice Kriya yoga. You also do not need a living guru to reach enlightenment. Any Guru claiming this is forming a cult in my opinion. Being bound to secrecy about finding God? Think about that. Also a certain well known organization has pursued others with legal litigation…hardly God like in my humble opinion.

The sincere devotee that seeks the truth has nothing more to do than learn to still the mind via meditation (Kriya works best for me) and then speak directly to God. Your guru is just a human representation of God…maybe.

BTW as I’m sure most of you know Kryia Yoga is not the goal. It is but one means to achieve the goal. As Paramahansa said there are many paths up the mountain.

Now that’s not to say that someone that has traversed this path before you won’t be of immense help. However, I have not personally met a single person that could convince me they had fully realized they were God. If your guru can’t convince you beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is indeed God then I think you should judge his word with your own inner scrutiny. Basically trust God (not man) to help you find the truth.

[The_Scales]

[QUOTE=gnulnx;50510]Hum. everything I’ve read and learned suggests that the Kriya Pranayama that you are practicing is backwards.

On the inhale the energy is moved from the Base to the crown. Pause. Exhale pushing the energy back down.

For those saying you can’t find accurate Kryia online that’s not true any longer.

I was going to post a three part book showing this, but I guess I can’t post links until I have posted 15 times… If we can get around that limit I’d be glad to post the links for all to see.

You do not need initiation to practice Kriya yoga. You also do not need a living guru to reach enlightenment. Any Guru claiming this is forming a cult in my opinion. Being bound to secrecy about finding God? Think about that. Also a certain well known organization has pursued others with legal litigation…hardly God like in my humble opinion.

The sincere devotee that seeks the truth has nothing more to do than learn to still the mind via meditation (Kriya works best for me) and then speak directly to God. Your guru is just a human representation of God…maybe.

BTW as I’m sure most of you know Kryia Yoga is not the goal. It is but one means to achieve the goal. As Paramahansa said there are many paths up the mountain.

Now that’s not to say that someone that has traversed this path before you won’t be of immense help. [B]However, I have not personally met a single person that could convince me they had fully realized they were God. If your guru can’t convince you beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is indeed God then I think you should judge his word with your own inner scrutiny. Basically trust God (not man) to help you find the truth.[/B][/QUOTE]

Everything up to the bolded part I agree with.

You will never meet anyone who realizes they are “GOD” because that is absurd.

You may meet a self realized person. This person has observed their own face so to speak. And it is no longer intellectual understanding but wisdom.

Explanation of God Realization is dicey and Time consuming so i wont’ get into it beyond this.

THAT (God) is knowable.

Realization of THAT doesn’t mean that you are THAT.

“God Realization” doesn’t mean that you figure out that you are the Ultimate reality from which everything originates, it means - you know that God is. So that it is no longer intellectual understanding but wisdom.

When I speak of God - I do not refer to any devas or Ishvaras. (Praise to them for their work)

When I speak of God I am talking about the Original Gangster.

[gnulnx]

[QUOTE=The Scales;50514]Everything up to the bolded part I agree with.

You will never meet anyone who realizes they are “GOD” because that is absurd.

You may meet a self realized person. This person has observed their own face so to speak. And it is no longer intellectual understanding but wisdom.

God Realization is dicey so i wont’ get into it beyond this.

THAT (God) is knowable. Realization of THAT (God) doesn’t mean that you are THAT (God).

Meaning - “God Realization” doesn’t mean you are the Ultimate reality from which everything originates, it simply means you know that God is.

When I speak of God - I do not refer to any devas or Ishvaras. I’m talking about the Original Gangster.[/QUOTE]

Then how do you reconcile the lives of Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, and Perhaps Babaji?

[The_Scales]

[QUOTE=gnulnx;50515]Then how do you reconcile the lives of Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, and Perhaps Babaji?[/QUOTE]

as I explained in my prior post. Beyond that I shall remain quiet.

Just keep practicing the Kriyas and your sadhana.

[gnulnx]

[QUOTE=The Scales;50516]as I explained in my prior post. Beyond that I shall remain quiet.[/QUOTE]

I’m not trying to break your silence if you don’t wish…

I’m still very curious how YOU can exists out side of God?

If God is everywhere then nothing exists outside of him.

To become self realized is to directly experience the realization that you are one with everyone and everything. There is no I, me, or we. There is only God. Yoga itself means union. The practice of Yoga is to unite the individual with Atman or God.

[The_Scales]

[QUOTE=gnulnx;50517]I’m not trying to break your silence if you don’t wish…

I’m still very curious how YOU can exists out side of God?

If God is everywhere then nothing exists outside of him.

To become self realized is to directly experience the realization that you are one with everyone and everything. There is no I, me, or we. There is only God. Yoga itself means union. The practice of Yoga is to unite the individual with Atman or God.[/QUOTE]

Some of the notions you stated in the quote above are based upon ‘wrong knowledge’ or ‘wrong ideas’ therefore your thinking processes arising from that foundation is faulty.

Just keep practicing the Kriyas and Sadhana. That is my advice to you. This is all.

[gnulnx]

[QUOTE=The Scales;50519]Some of the notions you stated in the quote above are based upon ‘wrong knowledge’ or ‘wrong ideas’ therefore your thinking processes arising from that foundation is faulty.

Just keep practicing the Kriyas and Sadhana. That is my advice to you. This is all.[/QUOTE]

Not to sound crass (sincerely not my intent), but who are you to tell me my ideas are faulty and wrong (especially if you aren’t going to correct them)? Are you self realized?

The above was sincerely not intend to flame you or to start a flame war. It was more sincere question. It’s all to easy for people to parrot the words of others and parrot the words of scripture. I’m not interested in any of that. Scripture is worthless without direct perception.

For what it’s worth I have personally experienced a deep state of unification and oneness. There is almost no denying the universal oneness of the universe when this experience takes place. It has only happened to me once (I’d be happy to share how I got there in another thread). This experience was the pinnacle of every life experience I’ve every had. Nothing will likely ever top it. There is a certain sadness now because I can’t get to this state at will, but there is also a sense of urgency and trust as I’ve experienced it.

[The_Scales]

[QUOTE=Pandara;32774]There are in total 8 kriyas. The first four as I understood it from my teacher is given to you each upon initiation. Kriyas 5-8 is not given but rather sensed intuitively by the kriyawitan (person who does kriya yoga).

Here with follow a description of the first five practices that is the First Kriya:

[B]1. Talabya Kriya[/B]

Talabya Kriya or Kechari Mudra helps to achieve the state of Tranquil breath while practiced in conjunction with Pranayam. It is an essential precondition before a Kriyanwita is introduced to the next kriya.

In the words of Lahiri Mahasay, ?Putting the tongue into the head or to the area between the eyebrows provides one to be able to connect the individual self of the seeker to the cosmic Consciousness or inner Consciousness of the inner Self, the Kutastha.?
Start off with 50 mudras in the morning and increase over time to 100.

[B]2. Kriya Pranayam[/B]

The [B]Downward Journey[/B] (you do 12 of them of 22 seconds each) as pointed out by Lahiri Mahasay himself is divided into four steps:

1. Raising the tongue in kechari mudra, breathing in using Ujjayi pranayama, as you breathe in visualize the breath running down the shushumna nadi from ajna chakra down to mooladhara chakra.
2. crossing rudra granthi (= psychic knot) at the level of vishuddha chakra,
3. crossing vishnu granthi at the level of manipura chakra and finally,
4. crossing brahma granti at the level of mooladhara chakra.

The [B]Upward Journey[/B] (you do 12 of them of 22 seconds each) takes the same route back, as you release the Ujjayi breath you visualize the breath running up shushumna nadi starting at the level of kundalini shakti just below mooladhara chakra.

1. crossing mooladhara chakra
2. crossing swadisthana chakra,
3. crossing anahata chakra
4. crossing vishuddha chakra and come to rest in ajna chakra

Repeat the next round.

[B]3. Navi Kriya[/B]

Start by doing Pratistha: repeating Om once at the level of each chakra, starting from mooladhara to ajna chakra and visualize it at the back of the spine.

[B]To do Navi Kriya[/B] ? Visualize navi chakra on the front of your body a little lower than manipura chakra at the back along the spine. Use ujjayi breathing in, swallow, hold and apply jalandhara bandha and repeat Om inwardly into navi chakra. Release the bandha and then the breath. Repeat 4 times in total. On the 5th you breathe in (ujjayi pranayama), but throw your head slowly back and repeat Om inwardly into manipura chakra visualized on the back of the spine. In the end you should end up doing 100 Om?s into navi and 25 into manipura.

End off kriya by doing Visarjan: exactly same as Pratistha, but you start from ajna working down to mooladhara.

[B]4. Yoni Mudra[/B]

Start by doing Pratistha: repeating Om once at the level of each chakra, starting from mooladhara to ajna chakra and visualize it as the back of the spine.

Many people teach Shanmukhi mudra as yoni mudra here, however I belief it is a mistake. This is what Shibendu taught us:

Sit in padma asana and assume yoni mudra with the hands. Apply kechari mudra and by ujjayi pranayama breathing in while all your attention is in ajna. Once the breath has been completed repeat Om into ajna and release the breath.

This kriya is practiced once every night before going to bed.

End off kriya by doing Visarjan: exactly same as Pratistha, but you start from ajna working down to mooladhara.

[B]5. Maha Mudra[/B]

Start by doing Pratistha: repeating Om once at the level of each chakra, starting from mooladhara to ajna chakra and visualize it as the back of the spine.

Sit in utthan padasana, with right leg out stretched.
Perform kechari mudra.
Take deep breath in, while exhaling bend forward and clasp big toe with both hands.
Slowly inhale, keep head up and spine as straight as possible, repeat Om into ajna once.
Release, come up by slowly exhaling.
This is one round, repeat 12 times.

Repeat 12 times to the left.

Repeat 12 times with both legs stretched out forward.

End off kriya by doing Visarjan: exactly same as Pratistha, but you start from ajna working down to mooladhara.

[I][B]Important Notice:[/B] May I ask that if you follow these practices that you treat them as sacred and with the necessary respect they deserve and apply them with an attitude of gratitude and reverence to the Divine for the great opportunity you have received to have access to this kriya. Most importantly, please stick to your practice, get a teacher if you don’t have one, because your awareness will change and you will need the guidance of a loving teacher along the way.[/I]

Blessings to all and thanks to the Divine.[/QUOTE]

I have a question to see who knows the answer…

What are they for and what do they do?

[The_Scales]

[QUOTE=gnulnx;50520]Not to sound crass (sincerely not my intent), [B]but who are you to tell me my ideas are faulty and wrong (especially if you aren’t going to correct them)? Are you self realized? [/B]
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You wouldn’t believe me If I told you.

[gnulnx]

[QUOTE=The Scales;50599]I have a question to see who knows the answer…

What are they for and what do they do?
[/QUOTE]

The only one I have found to be important is Kriya Pranayama.

When the yogi inhales he feels the incoming air move down his spine while at the same time moving the energy from the base to the chakra. The reverse is done on the exhale. This is in accord with Lord Krishna in the Bagavad Gita 4.29

“Still others, who are inclined to the process of breath restraint to remain in trance, practice by offering the movement of the outgoing breath into the incoming, and the incoming breath into the outgoing, and thus at last remain in trance, stopping all breathing”

Beyond that practice I simply continue moving the energy up and down at an ever slower speed. As the concentration increases the breath naturally slows. After a time the breath is forgotten and only the energy is moved. Even the chanting of Om is forgotten. The mind is focused razor sharp on the up and down movement until you finally reach the state I refer to as body asleep mind awake. This state is pronounced by a rigid spine and a coursing living energy moving throughout the body. Once in this state the mind is simply directed directed towards God, prayer, or topic of interest. Note I say simply , but in actuality it is quite hard to maintain perfect concentration when the mind crosses over. The energy, bliss , and joy felt is enough to shake all but the steadiest minds. When you reach this state learn to watch without amazement. You have to remain completely detached in an ever increasing awareness.

I personally find all other aspects of Kriya Yoga to be a waste of time and energy. It’s not the practice we are after, but the goal it achieves. Still the mind while putting the body to sleep. From that state call to God and you will get your answer.

Now I’m curious as to your thoughts an the meaning and purpose of the various Kriya’s.

You wouldn’t believe me if I told you.

I have neither reason to believe nor disbelieve you, but it seems if you were indeed enlightened then you would be more than happy to correct the faulty logic I used. BTW I’m not even saying I completely disagree with you, but your methods are what I’m calling into question. You can’t expect people to take everything you say as absolute truth when you approach them by saying

Some of the notions you stated in the quote above are based upon ‘wrong knowledge’ or ‘wrong ideas’ therefore your thinking processes arising from that foundation is faulty.

Just keep practicing the Kriyas and Sadhana. That is my advice to you. This is all.

Of course any free thinking person is going to question what your authority is when you make statements like this. Then when you dodge the issue instead of answering the question directly it further calls into question your authority.

I live by this: [B]Believe nothing allow anything. [/B]

I can allow for the possibility that you are self realized, enlightened, etc, but you are going to have to go further than making a comment on a message board to convince me. Of course you have no obligation to prove anything to me…

[The_Scales]

I already told you. In discussing the matter of God one runs into paradox. Thats why I said it “gets dicey.”

I explained what was necessary to you.

When as the result of your sadhana the light of wisdom begins to shine and you get the right chunks of information - you will figure it out for yourself - if that is your desire.
Up till that point its useless to discuss the matter . . . plus when the light shines enough and you work it out - it won’t need to be discussed because you’ll have figured it out for yourself.

Now stop buggin me.