Why are we so quick to judge? Do we with certainty know the motives, if any, behind what someone writes? And why can we not accept what someone has given us via the written word as a gift? Once read, it is our choice whether or not to accept it, but not judge or critique. Either way it is a gift.
Here here Lotusgirl…I second that…I had a look/read and guess what?..like magic,.poof and hey presto I came back here to this site. Anything Suhas Tambe has written is worth reading no matter where so I was glad to be told to read this.
It is not clear what Surya Deva’s motives are in this threat, is he trying to hit on YogiMoni with his flattering words, or is he trying to complain about the marketing in this thread. Perhaps he is trying to hit two flies with one stone.
Judgement has nothing to do with it, this is NOT a moral issue people.
This is a matter of policy and practices.
This forum is full of wannabe gurus and experts, the last thing it needs is links to even more self-appointed experts and teachers.
Surya was merely being intellectual, if you cannot handle that, what are you doing in a yoga forum in the first place? rhetorical question
To leave over this is indeed a tantrum. It is also a very insecure way of behaving.
Oh well, at least the false prophets are being called out one by one. I haven’t seen nearly as much spiritual spam as I first did when I joined (amir, suhas etc…) which is a relief.
At least they have their own sites to spam, Surya Deva uses yoga forums to spam his rubbish distortions.
Om shanti.
Just checking out more of the categories on her web site:
Yogi Moni
YogiMo’s Gratitude Journal
YogiMo’s Recognition Journal
YogiMo’s Release Journal
Moni’s Video Blog
YogaMoni, perhaps it would be a good idea to emphasize less on yourself and more on others and content if you really want your website to attract more people. The people who readily agreed on the Yoga forums to having their articles/posts published on your web site obviously came very cheap…
“Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.”
Omshanti,
Are you not guilty of judging when calling someone a false prophet or a self appointed guru?
Aren’t we all teachers? Don’t we each learn something from one another? I think so.
Teacher when it comes to spirituality/yoga is very different from teacher used in the conventional and colloquial sense: a teacher of physics is somebody who is highly qualified in the discipline of physics; a teacher of English literature is somebody who is highly qualified in the discipline of English literature etc They are in a position to teach in their various fields.
A teacher of spirituality/Yoga is somebody who is reached high qualifications of advancements in Yoga. In Yoga these qualifications are the the various samadhis one enters into. Unfortunately, today because of the commercialization of Yoga we get a dime a dozen people studying 200 hour, 500 hour courses in Yoga and getting certificates and then going out there claiming to be teachers.
Shall I be honest? I would never let somebody like Yogimoni who seems to be psychologically and emotionally unfit to me, to teach me Yoga. What can she teach me anyway that I cannot learn myself? Asanas? I know how to do dozens of them already. Pranayama? I know all the main techniques already. Meditation? I know hundreds of different techniques already? Yoga philosophy? 
I am not looking for techniques from teachers. I am looking for an inspiring role model who has reached at least the first stage of samadhi. I am looking for somebody who I can model, whose advice I can trust, and who can give me personal insights into Yoga that I cannot find by just reading texts. Such a person I would definitely seek out.
The dime a dozen people today who go by the title of “yoga teachers” are nothing more than a self-centered egotistical people who see Yoga as a way of self-promotion and self-gain. They study some weekly or monthly course and then go out there pretending to be teachers.
[QUOTE=omshanti;72892]“Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.”[/QUOTE]
What drivel you quote!
The ability to teach is a gift. To convey information in a clear concise manner, is a gift, To speak and make others want to listen, is a gift.
To inspire others to excel in their chosen field through teaching them, is a great gift indeed.
How do you think those who can do got to doing what they do do…hahah …by someone somewhere teaching them, silly!
I think the quote is pointing to how many people prematurely jump to teaching in spirituality. Like Amir for example. It is such a common phenomena in the spiritual/yoga community for people want to teach, publish books, DVD’s and hold seminars. Some people clearly even start with the intention. I will give an example: At a Vedanta ashram in India I came across as a Punjabi man like me. He told that I should learn Sanskrit, because if I don’t learn Sanskrit I will have to rely on others translations and commentaries of Vedanta texts, and so I would never have my own translation and commentary and make it in the field. His aim was to learn Sanskrit and Vedanta so eventually he too could become a great recognizable name in the field. Have his own followers, his own books, DVD’s and seminars.
I thought to myself is my Punjabi friend not losing the point here? The point of Vedanta is not to get followers, have your own books and DVD’s published and hold seminars on your talks, the point of Vedanta is ones own self-realization. We do not study spirituality so that one day we may teach it to others, we study spirituality so one day we may attain ones own liberation from pain, suffering and the cycle of birth and death. That has always been the purpose of the spiritual path.
If Yoga was about teaching, I am sure Patanjali would have said, “Yoga is the cessation of the modifications of the mind, then one can be a Yoga teacher” 
And he definitely did not say , “Yoga is gaining E-RYT 200, then one is fully qualified as a Yoga expert and can hold their own Yoga training programs!”
The origins of the quote came from a play, “Man and Superman” in the early 1900’s by George Bernard Shaw. It’s reference had nothing to do with spirituality.
If a student is unwilling to learn, how can the teacher teach?
The spiritual circus is, has and will most likely continue to be littered with clowns/charlatans; the burden resides with the seeker to determine who speaks from direct experience and who parrots, extremely confusing for the unaware.
[QUOTE=lotusgirl;72923]The origins of the quote came from a play, “Man and Superman” in the early 1900’s by George Bernard Shaw. It’s reference had nothing to do with spirituality.
If a student is unwilling to learn, how can the teacher teach?[/QUOTE]
And let me guess you consider yourself a teacher right? (And in the tradition of political correctness a teacher and a student)
As you already have the answer SD, there’s little need for me to reply.
Surya
My irritation is with the quote itself…it is an old quote which is a direct insult to anyone who teaches…I did/do understand in what context it was being applied but it was the actual quote I was addressing as a load of nonsense.
For me, I recognise immediately when someone is conveying wise words. It takes me seconds to note this. I then offer this person, whomever they might be, instant respect.
I have no worries that they might be aiming to be a Guru or might be wanting to sell their DVDS or books etc…it is the wisdom I enjoy receiving from them.
Surya you are right in stating it is about self realisation but it can be a single sentence that someone conveys that might help you on your own spiritual journey.
Suhas, Amir and yourself are extremely interesting writers, I have no problems stating this. It matters not to me that someone might be aiming to be a Guru and get a following or sell their DVDS and books. If they are expressing wisdom, I will see it.
My own practice for 41 years has been and is, extremely simplistic and produces proof…I am a person who needs proof, I cannot follow something that offers no proof that the spiritual journey is one worth taking and experiencing and leads to something great. I may want to share this with you and I can understand others wanting to express that their way is the best way and why not try what they have experience about. Its fine with me and I hope they/you keep doing this.
Kind Regards Kareng
One does not become a Guru. One achieves self-realization and then society turn them into a Guru. Ramana Maharshi had no intention to become a guru, it was society that turned him into one.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;72950]One does not become a Guru. One achieves self-realization and then society turn them into a Guru. Ramana Maharshi had no intention to become a guru, it was society that turned him into one.[/QUOTE]
I hadn’t thought of it like this!..but surely he must have put himself ‘out there’ to get society to do this.
If I achieved self realisation at home, silently, no one would know about it and wouldn’t be able to turn me into a Guru so I find it hard to believe it is as you suggest. (or whomever suggested it )…