What does yogis and prositutes have in common?

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#1

Note now that we can not call them yogis but to simplify it and not to confuse you, i have put the word yogis here. It should be bhogis= experiencers. Because yogis they are not. So please have that in mind.

What does a yogi and a prostitute from asia have in common?

A prositute is looking for someone to take money from.
a yogi wants a student/disciple to take money from.

When there is no money coming or the prostitute think there will come no more.She leaves that man and then look for someone else. Well she can look for others when that man is not in her country too to have income from different sources. And she will then talk to all how much money is sended to her every month. Before it was a shame but these days their parents closes their eyes as long as there is money. Also neighbours doesnt seem to outfreeze those people as would have been the case 100 years ago. They have high status because they have money, all small girls see this and many of them will do the same. Money have become more important than righetousness. And if every one else is doing it why not me they will think also they dont want to work hard and damage their body, like those old women that worked in a ricefield with bended back and cant walk straight. Why ruin my body for small peanuts they will think

The yogi is very nice as long there is money but when money is running out, they will ignore the disciple. Also the yogi will try to find others as the prostitute did to backup their income and safety. Some even go further to make up stories how someone in their family is sick so they need money to pay for the hospitalbill. This goes for both the yogi and prostitute.

When a yogi in india meets his friend, his friend will ask is that your new student does he have much money? And some of them even brag how much they got/ripped off from a student, the prostitute does the same. The more they could fool someone the better status they get.

It is a poor country so success is counted in money. The more you got the higher status. And because it is the age of kali the way you make the money is not important only that you make it is. So if unrighteous does not matter. People look up to the rich even if money was made unrighteous. Dharma seems only to exist in a small fraction.

note: do not judge all as bad because there are genuine people amongst the wolves.

So a yogi and a prostitutes mind is pretty much similar. And the word should be bhogi and not yogi which means someone that are an experiencer of the worldly things.

[B]One must read this article if you are looking for a guru. Discusses four types of gurus in details: the real guru (SadGuru), the fake guru, the universal guru (ParamGuru), and a guru (subject matter expert, teacher).

http://www.gita-society.com/guru4.htm[/B]

#2

they are eternal beings …

#3

[QUOTE=CityMonk;73281]they are eternal beings …[/QUOTE]

We all are.

And hopefully they will realize that and change for the better.

#4

so i guess this is the first similarity between yogis and prostitute;)

#5

This thread was about yogis and prostitutes similarity.

Not that we all are conciousness, then we can go further and say that you and the stone are the same and is conciousness. This was not my message however. And i dont think people would understand that.

The yogis and prostitutes are controlled by their ego which can not be satiesfied and craves for more. this was the message.
And so people that read this will know and see that falsehood if they meet one.

And it is good you dont judge people by thier mind and behaviour.Neither did i judge them but just showing the facts.

Many people can get in trouble as these person can harm you by some special teqniques and if you dont have done gode deeds and are a good person you have no protection at all.

#6

I take it you are not keen on Yogis

#7

Its not like im not keen on them. Its just how it looks ,someone i know talked to an indian guy here that owns a shop, he laughed and say there exist no real yogis in india all they want is money. So this is just the fact ive heard it from foreignes as well as native indians. It is well known in india and most indians dont like babas etc they say they are fake. There are many stories just go to the tube and you see many fake videos of levitating and spirit exorcism. Ive heard so many stories which i wont pass on though as im not here for gossipping… But lets just say ive heard alot of whats going on behind the scenes in somewhere in india. You would be shocked if i told you only a fragile of it. I just want to make people aware that there are hidden danger in this path.

Many people dont have strong mind so they are easy manipulated. And a fake yogi can make your head crazy so you become a retard. This is why i in an earlier post said never give your birthdate if the yogi ask for it due do give an suitable mantra for you.

The only protection you have is good deeds. So i urge you all that reads this to do good deeds. Think good thoughts also. Even if someone is mean never be mean back.

#8

The correct question is: What DO yogis and prostitutes have in common?

They both have ‘i’ in them.

#9

[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;73488]The correct question is: What DO yogis and prostitutes have in common?

They both have ‘i’ in them.[/QUOTE]

Ha…this is very funny, clever…:D:D

#10

[QUOTE=fakeyogis;73486]Its not like im not keen on them. Its just how it looks ,someone i know talked to an indian guy here that owns a shop, he laughed and say there exist no real yogis in india all they want is money. So this is just the fact ive heard it from foreignes as well as native indians. It is well known in india and most indians dont like babas etc they say they are fake. There are many stories just go to the tube and you see many fake videos of levitating and spirit exorcism. Ive heard so many stories which i wont pass on though as im not here for gossipping… But lets just say ive heard alot of whats going on behind the scenes in somewhere in india. You would be shocked if i told you only a fragile of it. I just want to make people aware that there are hidden danger in this path.

Many people dont have strong mind so they are easy manipulated. And a fake yogi can make your head crazy so you become a retard. This is why i in an earlier post said never give your birthdate if the yogi ask for it due do give an suitable mantra for you.

The only protection you have is good deeds. So i urge you all that reads this to do good deeds. Think good thoughts also. Even if someone is mean never be mean back.[/QUOTE]

Actually I was being Sarcastic…:smiley:

Thing is, how can you live and do this kind of work if you don’t charge something for the services? I am not saying I disagree with you about the Charlatan aspect and that the weak may be susceptible to their fraud.

Let us pretend that there is a Yogi who sincerely wants and has the abilities to help another person on their spiritual path. How do you do this without money? Do you think it is best to work part time and offer your services for free? If so, do you think it would be harder for the Yogi to devote his thinking to spiritual matters by having to switch to part time work in something else?

#11

This is the same with everything under the sun. Do some merchants cheat customers? Certainly. Do some restaurants serve “bad” food? Of course. Are some preachers taking money for themselves in the name of G-d? You bet. But the baby doesn’t get thrown out with the bathwater.

If you get food poisoning from one particular restaurant you do not cease to go to restaurants. You simply don’t return to THAT ONE.

Be cautious, absolutely. Avoid charlatans. But do not let your discernment grow into an imbalanced skepticism and certainly do not cease to apply discernment. Otherwise you’ll take in nothing at all.

#12

Well i understand your thoughts i also said dont judge all by few.

Of couse there is nothing wrong to charge anyone but when trying to steal from someone it is wrong. But here you must ask your self are they charging money for their service or are they trying to steal from people?

Same as when a prositute ask for much money and then when got alot and they think nothing more exist they discard the man and look for a new target. IF i prostitute charges money for her time is not same as lying or making trust so that she can get a house from the person that thinks she loves him.

If a yogateacher is charging for services is not wrong. But using magic to manipulate and stealing is wrong.

In asia many is using magic in the wrong way, also magic is included in yoga but it is normally used to help people. But this is not yoga as westernes are used to and they normally dont even believe this exist hence they are easy target for these evil egos. And if you do not know how to protect your self and dont have good karma in your luggage that could be the end.

And innerathlete if you were to know i.e. that in chicago all danceteachers are bad as you know the city would you still look for a danceteacher there? We can get the tools from soneone but we must look inside our selves and do the journey alone, no teacher can make that journey for us. So in the end we are on our own.

#13

One of the benefits of yogis and yoga teachers in america, is that many excellent yoga teachers have professional day jobs, therefore they don’t have to charge a lot for classes they teach after hous, and many teachers in the houston area, where I live teach for free. Also, many yogis have day jobs so they don’t mind spending what they would normally spend for lunch, on a yoga class. It’s all relevant. To add to that, we have been led to believe that nothing is truly free, and if its too good to be true, it’s probably a scam. With that in mind, in order for someone to take a yoga class seriously, for some it must have a monetary value attached.

What’s the similarity between a yogi and a prostitute?
They both know and practice many excellent postures.

#14

JSK What’s the similarity between a yogi and a prostitute?
They both know and practice many excellent postures.

ha!

#15

hi there, i am from mainland china, same situation here, all guru care about nothing but money. Taoism/Daoism guru, Lamaism guru with red clothes, modern spiritual formation teacher, Qi master, etc, some of them are real, but they only want money, they don’t really care about their students.

#16

i had a taoism guru, he was 81 years old when i met him, he got 5 inch beard, he lives in a moutain. He can see things. He talks like a wise man… turns out he only care about money.
I was in tibet. I had several guru in lama temple, they were old and being respectful. they can’t teach real thing but crap.

#17

[QUOTE=Sebastian John Murphy;73703]hi there, i am from mainland china, same situation here, all guru care about nothing but money. Taoism/Daoism guru, Lamaism guru with red clothes, modern spiritual formation teacher, Qi master, etc, some of them are real, but they only want money, they don’t really care about their students.[/QUOTE]

I can relate to what you have posted regarding most gurus. All they care about is the money and they really don’t care about the student or all they are interested in is rooted in ego. (such as having maximum disciples, wanting large sums of money etc.) Perhaps somewhere there exists a guru who does not desire these things (I have yet to meet one). :wink:

#18

I think this site is good, there are few gurus on here. Of course, they don’t call themselves Gurus and technically they are not (what are the qualifications?) but the information they provide is priceless!

#19

I have been thinking about the disrespectful title of this thread and setting aside the joking side which in terms of humour can be seen as funny. I am not sure one can generalise that gurus are all about the money. If you think about what the intentions of serious Gurus are…they are setting out to help people gain spiritual awareness. Teaching them things they may not otherwise know.

I know 4 people in England who follow Guru Maharaji They go whenever they can to meetings abroad. He has visited Britain too. One friend visits India whenever she can get there. All of these people are happy individuals and appear content with whatever it is he is offering them. They lead successful lives, no major heartbreaks or troubles in their lives.
They meditate and I know that whatever they may donate is minimal as they are not very wealthy people.

The Guru must need money in order to travel to the destinations around the world that he goes to. It must take some organising which must involve costs and people to help him. The halls must cost something to hire as weather in some of these destinations may not be ideal for say an outside free gathering.

I have never had the impression that these people are dissatisfied with this Guru or feel they are being ripped off.

#20

I have not yet met a single Guru who I would describe as genuine. They are either hungry for money or they are hungry for power. A rare few I have met in my trips in India I would describe as religious - neither hungry for money or power but brainwashed by tradition. I have not met a single individual who I would describe as enlightened or self-realized. I wonder if they even exist anywhere in the world - let me know if you know. Often when I ask this question, I get the same referrals: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Amma, Mooji, Gangaji, Dalai Lama - and none of seem enlightened to me. I met several gurus, sadhus and swamis in India and did not meet a single enlightened person.

Regarding the money thing. I understand that rooms needs to be hired, things need to be arranged, projects need to be funded, the gurus travels need to be financed - but the actual amount they charge is often in disproportion to how much really is needed. I mean come on does the guru really need to charge $500 per person for a a day course? If 100 people attend, they make $50000 in a day. Does it really cost $50000 a day to hire a room?

The way I see it is, if you want to help somebody, you will help them without asking for anything in return other than the bare minimum to cover any costs - overall you make zero profit out of it.