[QUOTE=Surya Deva;57307]I am currently reading up on Niti shastra(a thread on it in the religion forum) I found the following two teachings to be highly apt for this thread:
Gold is tested in the fire for identification. A virtuous man is identified by his morality. A sage is identified by his behaviour. A brave man is identified by his fearlessness in dangerous and challenging situation, a patient man is identified when he is confronted by economic problems, enemies and friends are identified in difficult and trying times
The following eight qualities increases the splendour of man: Intelligence, nobility, knowledge of scriptures, control of the senses, bravery, less talk and action according to ones ability, and greatfulness
Amir fails all my tests and fails in all the 8 qualities that increase the splendour of man. In fact I come to the conclusion I am his superior in all qualities.
Intelligence: I am far more sharper than he is and constantly show him up when we have dialogues. He often end up conceding points to me or simply stops responding.
Nobility: He is a noble person in that he is consistent. He has not budged from his position from post 1. Neither have I. But noble people do not go around claiming they are better than everybody else and that even if they steal, it's alright, because they are noble. Amir does. What else is it alright for Amir to do? Lie, murder, rape?
Knowledge of scriptures: I far outstrip Amit when it comes to knowledge and demonstrated it over and over again. He in fact tells people not read to scriptures, and yet is constantly citing quotes and anecdotes from Buddhist scriptures.
Control of the senses: Amir seems quite measured and controlled, and I have never seen a typo in his long posts(mine abound in them) and this is obviously owing to his practice of mindfullness. I would have thought Amir would have had higher spiritual attainments at first, but then it turned out in a conversation with him I had even higher spiritual attainments. I have left my body a few times and had spontaneous activation of higher abilities like telepathy. He claims these are lies.
Bravery: He and I are both very brave because we never worry about what people think on here about what we say. We speak our own truth and from our own convictions. We are amongst the most controversial members on this forum. We remain consistent. This is admirable. However, Amir has taken an easy route in his path. In the comforts of his own home he has done his sadhana, and only for a few years and now at 25 he thinks hes enlightened and can teach everybody. I am going to subject myself to the very hard spiritual training in the authentic tradition for what maybe 10-20 years, maintain celibacy, eat moderately, sleep on the floor and surrender to a teacher.
Less talk and action according to ones ability: Amir and I are both prolific posters on this forum and very active members on this forum. I am a lot more prolific than he is, which would suggest I talk more than he is. The difference I talk about knowledge related things and Amir goes around the forum giving his unsolicited opinions to members and preaches to them to come to their awakening(e.g., pulling up dwai because he said IMHO, and telling his opinion is not humble) It is evident Amir loves the sound of his voice, he is the only one here who records himself giving discourses on youtube. He is the only one here who is trying to start a cult. Amir has gone well beyond his ability. He is trying to teach, when he's not qualified for it. He's only 25. He needs to get more life experience behind him, more sadhana, before he tries stepping into the shoes of Buddha.
Neitzsche recently called me a philosopher and social activist. Do you know what I told him? I was a nobody at this moment in my life. I am no philosopher or social activist. Many have told me I should teach or write a book. Do you know what I say? I am still the student and when I am ready to teach, then I will teach. Such a contrast between my attitude and Amirs. I am humble; he is arrogant
Greatfullness: He has no respect for the masters of the past. He accuses them all of lying at the very least. He claims Patanjali made up the siddhis. He claims Swami Vivekananda and Swami Yogananda are frauds. He claims he has excelled everybody, including the Vedic masters. Such haughtiness does not belong to a spiritual person, it is most distasteful and repungnant. I on the other hand am so indebted to the spiritual masters, I make an invocation to them before every meditation. I never claim any knowledge as my own, but it is only theirs.
In conclusion I would not accept Amir as a guru, much less enlightened, that is because he is even less than me in spiritual accomplishment - and I consider myself a chump. A total beginner. A nobody. If a nobody like me has higher qualities than Amir, then Amir is definitely not enlightened :D[/QUOTE]