Of course I’m a victim of racism and bigotry by Westerners like yourself. I am as much of a victim as the other billions of Asians and the hundreds of millions of Africans, and the other couple million of indigenous people.
You have a deep seated issue…
I believe you have deep seated issues as well. They are called racism and Ethnocentrism. Being the superior, intelligent, and wise Hindu that I am, it is my duty to lead you out of the diabolical life you lead! Do you not realize that your exploitation of billions of innocent men, women, and children will lead you to nowhere but your destruction? Repent or suffer! Show remorse for your actions!
Being the acute Hindu that I am, I can see that your vitriolic reaction to Surya Deva’s wise and superior words in the form of insults such as “bitchy bitch,” “bitch,” “Surya Asura,” and so on, I can discern the simple truth that you had a traumatic experience with extremism and violence. Do you have Post-traumatic stress disorder? I believe you do. This, along with your hatred of protests against discrimination can perfectly explain your hostile reaction to Surya Deva.
(See how two can play the game of patronization)
Did you intent to copy a hate post here? However, I recognize your posts as…
You are deluded Q. You are full of bias and anger. What kind of person would hate protests and movements that seek to improve the plight of certain ethnic groups?
(See how two can play this game of patronization?)
Sure, racism exists. Noone denies it. I have been subject to racism a lot of times before hypocritical you and Surya Asura turning my heritage against me. The point is how you deal with it. I failed to be enough of an idiot to fight fire with fire and become racist myself. Well, I admit that as the heir of a racist offender it is easier to abstain from falling back to racism. Yet you could do it like me too.
I understand. You are incredibly traumatized by your experiences of racism. Misplaced hate only inculcates hate.
(See how two can play this game of patronization?)
I speak of SA exploiting David’s kindness. SA, however, is debauching you a lot. He keeps you from healing, whenever you show signs of sanity he’ll pull you back. At least he’s a buttkisser and won’t oppose what David preaches directly.
I speak of your exploiting David’s kindness. You call David uneducated, naive, and immature in a convoluted display of emotion in the hopes that David would trace the source of your anger to us.
SD and I on the other hand speak our mind. We are not politically correct. When we disagree with him, we disagree with him. When we agree with him, we agree with him.
Many people on this forum, like yourself, bury their crystallized racism and bigotry beneath layers of political correctness. They use our traditions and spew trite phrases in a display of so-called “Enlightenment” and “wisdom.”
Sure as hell it would, but with a trick: Once your anger is slaked, your view will change. Indirectly. As a result. Because anger clouds your view, haven’t you read the Yoga Sutras:
It would not change anything. My views regarding Westerners and Western civilization would remain the same. I would still consider the majority of Westerners to hold cultural supremacist and racist biases due to the influence of Christianity in the development of Western civilization. I would still regard most of the aspects of Western civilization to be inferior. I would still consider Westerners like you to be culturally barbaric ([B][U]not[/U][/B] intellectually, racially, artistically, etc).
Why? Because you are. Your culture and society has destructive and exploitative aspects that overshadow the good ones.
Take, for example, W.E.B Dubois. A leader of African Americans against oppression and tyranny by barbarian white men. He disliked white people (and that’s somewhat of an understatement). He even said “Thank God, no Anglo-Saxon” when he was giving information about his multi-racial ancestry. Yet, he relatively managed to keep his cool and do much good in American society throughout his life.
If you manage to overcome…
If you manage to control your bias against what you [U]perceive[/U] to be extremism and come to terms with your past, you will realize that what SD and I have been saying this whole time is the Truth, and nothing but the Truth. We may not say the Truth in the kindest of ways, but we do say it regardless.
So you carry all that suffering on your shoulders, little Nietzsche? All those millions of deaths and ruined lives you suffer from? Quite a burden, you must be one strong man not to be traumatized beyond recognition.
I did not say that. I basically said that I am as much of a sufferer as are the billions of other oppressed people in this world.
Sure. Any extremist sees themselves as fighters for truth…
In that case, Mahatma Gandhi was an extremist. Brooker T. Washington was an extremist. MLK was an extremist. Sun Yat-Sen was an extremist. Vivekananda was an extremist. Any given philosopher or social activist in history would be an extremist by your definition.
Yeah, brillant indeed. I just couldn’t stand up against Surya Asuras sharp sword of truth anymore.
Indeed you couldn’t. Truth always triumphs.
Why would I be “butthurt”?
You have an aversion to the truth. You deny that Westerners committed to worst atrocities in human history. You deny that cultural subversion by white supremacists in underway. You deny the negative depiction of India/Hinduism/Hindus in the media. You deny the Hindu/Indian roots of Yoga. You deny your racism and supremacy.
It is only natural that you deny this since you are a Westerner yourself.
However, the time is long gone for Westerners to remain so ignorant and defensive about their evils.
This is the modern era. The world doesn’t run according to your tunes now. You are neither the progenitors of all concepts of civilization and neither will your pathetic excuses of bringing “freedom” and “democracy” disguise your obvious attempts at maintaining the status quo.
Sorry, but however GREAT it actually should be, I still think it’s wrong. I, though, can’t undo any crime people in the West comitted and surely still do comit. It’s kinda hard for a single person to save the world, if it wasn’t, I’m sure a great hero like yourself would already have taken care of it.
This isn’t about a single person saving the world. Its about respect and tolerance.
In other words, when the representative majority of Westerners have given up their supremacy and bigotry and learn to respect other cultures and traditions without denying its roots, then the battle is won.
I still don’t believe you think I’d think it’s great. I believe you think you’re hurting me with this. In a way, that’s even way sicker than Surya Asura’s motivation to attribute such an attitude to me (discrediting a superior opponent). Karma will punish you for this.
There is so much thing as karma “punishing” someone. There is such a thing karma bearing its “fruits” or consequences.
Boo hoo. You’re hurt. Big whoop. Tell that to the hundreds of millions of Indians still living in abject poverty. Tell that to the African Americans who receive piles of racial shit in America. Tell that to the Native Americans whose ancestors were brutally massacred or entirely exterminated.
Westerners, like you, have accrued a horrendous amount of karma through their ignorance, supremacy, and hate-mongering.
On the other hand, Karma will reward me for trying to combat white man’s subjugation. I will also be punished for many of the hurtful things I have said on this forum. However, I will not punished for righteous anger, i.e, anger at the way my people are treated, or the anger that drives me to defend my heritage and culture.
Dude, but what about
- Western/White supremacy.
YOU FUCKING SHIT FUCKING FUCK ASS BITCH FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING I HATE FUCKING SHIT YOU FUCK SICK PRICK ALSKDFJOWIERER
I think I must have accidentally deleted those parts when I was copy-pasting your words into the quote braces.
Something like that…? :lol: I think you do not need a hug, you need a good fight. If I were you great Guru, I’d let you fight me. Physically. I’d always keep you on the edge of beating me, make you believe you’d be almost there, while I’d make it so that you think that I was really trying hard to beat you, but weren’t able. I’d let you exhaust yourself until your mind will let you ask the question “what is the meaning of this?” and give it up. :lol:
Isn’t it unfortunate that I actually won’t fight you? So much for that plan.
Trust me, I know so many people who have been more racist/bigoted to me than anyone in this forum. I was indeed resentful but I have always swallowed my pain and remained friendly to them.
Christians always meant well. If people who claimed to be Christians did not mean well, they were no Christians, but imposters. And you sorta missed that I said
You are sick. This is yet another example of you denying history.
Its like saying to the Native Americans here “Oh, those majority Christians who wanted to forcibly convert you to Christianity and force you to become American through the Dawes Severalty Act? Yeah, they weren’t Christian.”
These Christians were indeed Christians, doing as their desert survival guide holy book told them to; hate homosexuals; hate atheists; hate other cultures/religions/faiths; convert, by any means, others to Christianity.
But of course, you wouldn’t extend that logic to casteist Hindus would you? An ignorant Christian or Muslim is not a true Christian/Muslim, but a Hindu who discriminates based on caste is, right?
So those not-well-meaning missionaries repulse me. Sorry, Nietzsche, again you don’t score. You’re in the wrong place. Why don’t you go where actual people you execrate meet?
There is so such thing as a well-meaning Christian. They all mean bad news.
There is no such thing as a liberal Christian. These Christians are not following their faith.
What you talk about are missionary activities that are not meant well, not performed fair and not performed without force. These variants repulse me. But if someone is an actual Christian and thinks that they gained some awesome insights and found a great way to live a happy life, and if said actual Christian would find this all so wonderful that they want to share their findings with other people, so these other people too can live that happy life, they would mean well. And if they then went to other people and shared their insights with them and gave them the option to make up their mind about these insights, that would be a fair performance without force. And that I would classify as information. And with that nothing is wrong.
Missionary activity is inherently wrong.
There is no justification for spreading your teachings. In fact, the very desire Christians have to make others aware of their barbaric religion is evidence of their feelings of superiority.
Actual Christians and Muslims are the extremist ones. Thats why they’re called [U]fundamentalists.[/U] The term itself refers to those who stick by what they believe are the true principles of their religion.
Your fiery speech with links and facts and bolded text and images is simply a fine example for how you freaks argue and debate. Unfair, dishonest and undignified. [B]See, and now I can call you a bitch, cuz you are one.[/B] And I can call you a damn racist, because you are one. I’m the sweetest guy one can imagine, [B]and you little asshole depict me as a fuck sicker than yourself.[/B] And of course you won’t reply like “uhm, damn, I misunderstood that, sorry, all the anger clouded my judgement, please forgive me, [B]Q…” No, you will post some further shit and embarrass yourself even further,[/B] and when I’m fed up with all the embarrassment and end the debate, you’ll say I’m a coward.
You fiery speech, links to psychological disorders and impacts, and sardonic smileys is simply a fine example for how you freaks argue and debate.
I took the liberty of bolding your most crude comments.
No, Westerners like me don’t revel in the deaths of hundreds of millions of regular humans, and if some hysteric youngling like yourself accuse us of that, we diagnose you freaks as crazy. And it’s accurate and adequate.
Yeah. They take it for granted. Westerners are wholly unapologetic about their history; the way they go around saying “oh, we weren’t the only ones” is a testimony to that fact.
It doesn’t work out. You two are just clowns. Hysterical clowns. When “we all” step off our Yoga-mats after a great session and a deep relaxation in Shavasana and see you freak out, all we feel is compassion with you poor things. We think you need a hug. Ok, the thin-skinned among us actually get offended. The weaker ones. Great job, Nietzsche, in a year you might be even strong enough to beat up a 5 year old in real life. But other than that, you’re just a disgrace to all you claim to stand for. Cuz you make no sense and only project your resentments, your prejustice, your racism-or-however-you-idiots-call-it.
Nothing worth arguing or debating about here.
I don’t accuse, I diagnose, and you don’t coward behind someone, you parrot them. That way you make the same mistakes like them. Why am I a racist? You wouldn’t know. Why am I a white supremacist? You wouldn’t know. What’s wrong with my standpoint? You couldn’t tell. All you can do is make nonsense up from scratch or misrepresent what I actually say. Same story over and over again. For a few minutes it makes you feel strong and superior, but shortly after you feel just stupid. Like right now. Right now you know I’m right with everything I say. And what do you do? What goes on in your mind? You construct evasive bla-bla to cover up your stupidity. Think up ways to further misrepresent what I say, ways to evade or ignore what I write, and so forth.
Nothing worth arguing or debating about here.
You know, I know it, David knows it - everybody knows it. You wanna give us a spanking?
Actually, though, it’s sad and I hope you’ll get better one day.
When I said “spanking”, I meant it in the context of winning an argument or proving a point.