What kind of yoga should i follow to erase rubish from my mind

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#24

[QUOTE=belovedk;40096]It is maybe a COMPULSIVE disorder,it is same as keep washing hands, etc,
Firstly u need to accept this situation, take it easy, and search more knowledge on this .
sex is a human nature, but dont take it as so important or not important…
the most important is, u must make your whole soul, mind, body together, to be one.
It takes a lot efforts and knowledge.[/QUOTE]

if you have more thant 35 and u alone all time , you aware that you cant have sexe , would you say to me sex is not important ?

#25

[QUOTE=chamssou15;39985]hello

Im algerian man ;35 years old ,my english is too bad in talking , but in writing its 50 /50 ;so i come to this forum ;because im really depressed ,i lost sex drive ,faith ,confidence , and every thing to hand me at the world …

I have never been in relation ship with women , i never spoke with women excpt in internent ,i had never real friends ,and i leave in silent world , i leave with less thant dollar by day , i earn 200 euro per years ,that equal at dinner and few beef in westren country …its ridiculous salary ,women here they worship moeney , cars …big house…

i have no certifiacte to find some good , job ,my father steele all my money ,and i had never love from family ,im totally alone ,even my neibors are selfeiche and dont say good morning , its me the first guy so said good morning , but i regret , yes …

i have lot of regret sticked in my mind becoz i have live my youth like alla the youth all over , alla i do is breathing ,i dont feel my self important anymore ,its like im satan in the body of nice guy …

any way ,i have to relese stress , becoz really i want to kill my self ,my live have no sens , but the religion stop me …i want to learn some tips postures in yoga to increase sex drive ,and also ,to forget my failure …i need to comminucate to talk to somone before i live forum becoz i hate writing …

see you .[/QUOTE]

I am really sorry to read that you are feeling this way. :frowning:

As others have said before me, Yoga will not fix this. You need the help and support of a doctor and/or counselor first.

If it’s any consolation whatsoever, you can attribute all of that to Karma and just blame the universe without resentment. lol

Seriously though, I am in [B]exactly[/B] the same position that you are. I live alone and I have absolutely [B]no[/B] friends. I am also flat broke and have bills coming out of my bum… I also find it hard to relate to the opposite gender and I spend most of my life online. Sound familiar?

Now, what we have to understand is that we [B]choose[/B] to be this way…as hard as it is for you to accept, when we get ourselves in a rut, it’s often because we put ourselves there.

Am I depressed? Not really, because I have passed the ‘depressed’ stage ages ago and I have now reached the complacent ‘I don’t give a damn’ stage. :lol:

I also realise that I am accomplishing nothing by sitting around not feeling sorry for myself, so I decided to come on here and try to get back into doing things to help myself overcome this.

Life’s too short as it is to end it prematurely or just waste it away. It’s also a beautiful gift from God we are wasting, isn’t it?

We need…[B]both of us[/B] need to go to a doctor/counselor to get this sorted before we can get into/back into doing yoga.

I just posted this to let you know that you are not alone, but I don’t let this bother me anymore because I know I have the means to change it.

#26

[QUOTE=chamssou15;40106]if you have more thant 35 and u alone all time , you aware that you cant have sexe , would you say to me sex is not important ?[/QUOTE]

By the way, my last shag was over 10 years ago…eventually you give up hope of ever ‘getting any’ and it ceases to retain its importance…then again, I am not a guy. lol

#27

Excellent post Nobody

#28

[QUOTE=Nobody;40108]I am really sorry to read that you are feeling this way. :frowning:

As others have said before me, Yoga will not fix this. You need the help and support of a doctor and/or counselor first.

If it’s any consolation whatsoever, you can attribute all of that to Karma and just blame the universe without resentment. lol

Seriously though, I am in [B]exactly[/B] the same position that you are. I live alone and I have absolutely [B]no[/B] friends. I am also flat broke and have bills coming out of my bum… I also find it hard to relate to the opposite gender and I spend most of my life online. Sound familiar?

Now, we have to understand that we [B]choose[/B] to be this way…as hard as it is for you to understand, when we get ourselves in a rut, it’s often because we put ourselves there.

Am I depressed? Not really, because I have passed ‘depressed’ ages ago and I have now reached the complacent ‘I don’t give a damn’ stage. :lol:

I also realise that I am accomplishing nothing by sitting around not feeling sorry for myself, so I decided to come on here and try to get back into doing things to help myself overcome this.

Life’s too short as it is to end it prematurely or just waste it away. It’s also a beautiful gift from God we are wasting, isn’t it?

We need…[B]both of us[/B] need to go to a doctor/counselor to get this sorted before we can get into/back into doing yoga.

I just posted this to let you know that you are not alone, but I don’t let this bother me anymore because I know I have the means to change it.[/QUOTE]

ur stereotipical when i you said ang genralise that we choose this …censcored …way …u should to know we havnt the same personality the same skills, we dont live in the same culture , if u give me visa i F off from this village to see what chance could cross my way in other far place …

wherever i go here to change , i see the door colsed on my nose…im not affraid to try again , but im affraid to stay alla my life like that …if i go to other far place iand i fail, beilive me i would to accpt im not made to be happy at that moment …im losing my youth wake up man …

you the western people the governemenbt help you to hav indepndancy , i dont know a lot of westrn live with their parent under the same roof ? right ?

but here in algeria i dont know any algerian able to leave alone in one roomm…the lucky ones locate when they get married at the age of 40 ,= sex with women for the fisrt time in gerally …

The doctor in my case i dont give … im the dovctor of my self , the key its to take off and to make money after we gonna see the positive changes …

#29

[QUOTE=chamssou15;40111]ur stereotipical when i you said ang genralise that we choose this …censcored …way …u should to know we havnt the same personality the same skills, we dont live in the same culture , if u give me visa i F off from this village to see what chance could cross my way in other far place …

wherever i go here to change , i see the door colsed on my nose…im not affraid to try again , but im affraid to stay alla my life like that …if i go to other far place iand i fail, beilive me i would to accpt im not made to be happy at that moment …im losing my youth wake up man …

you the western people the governemenbt help you to hav indepndancy , i dont know a lot of westrn live with their parent under the same roof ? right ?

but here in algeria i dont know any algerian able to leave alone in one roomm…the lucky ones locate when they get married at the age of 40 ,= sex with women for the fisrt time in gerally …

The doctor in my case i dont give … im the dovctor of my self , the key its to take off and to make money after we gonna see the positive changes …[/QUOTE]

You are right, I am not a 35yr old Algerian male virgin, but I have the right to say I am in exactly the same position that you are.
I don’t even own a Visa card. I am on a meagre government pension but that all gets eaten up with rent and bills. Most weeks I live on packet noodles, bread and water. I also suffer with agoraphobia and sociophobia.

The main difference between you and I is that I make no excuses for living a miserable life. You seem to be full of them.
Until you stop wallowing in self pity and being rude to those who are offering you help, nobody will be able to help you (and ‘Nobody’ will).

I will just leave this thread now and hope that somebody from your own age and culture replies to this as you have made it quite clear that they are the only ones able to do so.

#30

Nobdy,

Your compassion and honesty in trying to help Chamssou is beautiful. I do hope he listens to your wonderful advise and the advise of others. He needs help, with no more excuses. Only he has the power, no one can give that to him. Thank you for sharing.

#31

[QUOTE=lotusgirl;40117]Nobdy,

Your compassion and honesty in trying to help Chamssou is beautiful. I do hope he listens to your wonderful advise and the advise of others. He needs help, with no more excuses. Only he has the power, no one can give that to him. Thank you for sharing.[/QUOTE]

i had explain in the previous what is the key …i dont want to repeat ,

im not good in english but the word employed "compassion " i dont think its adapted to my situation ,becoz i beileive in equality …even its dream …utopic

#32

Chamssou15,

Compassion toward others is a good thing. Nobody was sharing her experience in order to help YOU. She was showing compassion toward you. I think we all believe in equality also, but you can still have compassion.

Kareng offered a way to help you and you haven’t responded to her kind offer. You posted asking for help. If you want help, we are here for you. If you want to make excuses why you are depressed and not take our advise, then there is no point for you to be here on the forum. The choice is yours. Take our offer of help or not.

#33

Sorry but Im gonna say it like it is to you Chamssou…no I will not be silent on this anymore.

You didnt offer a word of compassion for Nobodys predicament in life, astonishing
You offered no thanks for her genuine advice, astonishing
You offered no thanks for her trying to draw comparisons in her life and yours to make you feel better! astonishing
Depressed or NOT, you are a selfish w…r!!!
Dont think for one second I havent got you worked out Mr Woman hater!!
You were fine with me while you thought I would go on Skype with you …Ill ask you again WHY?
I would feel sorry for any woman that you might come in contact with!!
And by the way…Nobody and myself have bigger balls than you do!
Now I will leave you to the men on this forum, let them sweet talk you!!

#34

[QUOTE=lotusgirl;40121]Chamssou15,

Compassion toward others is a good thing. Nobody was sharing her experience in order to help YOU. She was showing compassion toward you. I think we all believe in equality also, but you can still have compassion.

Kareng offered a way to help you and you haven’t responded to her kind offer. You posted asking for help. If you want help, we are here for you. If you want to make excuses why you are depressed and not take our advise, then there is no point for you to be here on the forum. The choice is yours. Take our offer of help or not.[/QUOTE]

compassion in french thant means bad thing , its sounds like some personne felle him self intoucheble superior thant the other compassion =stupidity for me. but becoz im not good in english i have no idea if compassion in english have the same leads in french …

i appriciate ur advices all , but intil now i havent the skills to explain to you that before get in deep deprssion i tried alla thinks availble in my neiborhord and my country …

remmeber we have not same culture and its hard to establish contain of the probelm , wherver i said to u i know exactly what cant give me rejouiss ,but u seems standing on sticking guilt on me …

#35

[QUOTE=kareng;40124]Sorry but Im gonna say it like it is to you Chamssou…no I will not be silent on this anymore.

You didnt offer a word of compassion for Nobodys predicament in life, astonishing
You offered no thanks for her genuine advice, astonishing
You offered no thanks for her trying to draw comparisons in her life and yours to make you feel better! astonishing
Depressed or NOT, you are a selfish w…r!!!
Dont think for one second I havent got you worked out Mr Woman hater!!
You were fine with me while you thought I would go on Skype with you …Ill ask you again WHY?
I would feel sorry for any woman that you might come in contact with!!
And by the way…Nobody and myself have bigger balls than you do!
Now I will leave you to the men on this forum, let them sweet talk you!![/QUOTE]

I had 6 eme feeling intuition from the begining ,ur heart is dark , so u was fake ,when i started to anylse the women and people in ineterent fields , you shloud not have no idea in europe what is the web …

i havent understand exactly word by word ur paragraphe but u sound very angry ,if u have probelem u have this forum post your and lets me drawn with mty own problem ,im not here to add clashes unusful to my F… existence … no body can bein my place …

#36

U need to get out of the self pity , and self centered thinkingstyle, look around the world, there r many people living in similar or worse situations …they dont have internet access, dont have food, or even suffering from aids , etc.
If u can take the RISK to start to PRAISE and GREATFUL for what u have had , for instance, start to say to yourself, I feel thankful i have internet, and i feel thankful i have friends who r caring for me even if they r living far away. I feel thankful I dont have cancer, I feel thankful I have sun and water, …
Do this every day , take the step to feel THANKFUL.
U will feel life start to change for u.
Have u read the book <the law of attraction>, that is the universal Law.
smiles and thankful hearts.

#37

My heart is light until I meet people like you !
And, You have understood
Goodbye Chamssou

#38

I was not trying to show compassion, only empathetic understanding. I know better than to try and elicit any kind of emotional response online.

That being said, I sincerely thank lotusgirl and Kareng for their kind appreciation of my situation and for their understanding of my aims in this regard. I am quickly learning that sincerity [B]can[/B] be found on a forum.

If I knew that by relating my personal experience, it would make no difference to chamssou, I would not have done so. I opened up my own heart in the stupid thought that I would open up his.

Chammsou, we have a saying in English that goes ‘misery loves company’. You may have heard of it. Sometimes, it makes people feel better to know they are not alone.

My main aim at the time was to prevent you from doing anything silly like harming yourself. If people want to call it compassion, yeah…that works.

Honestly though, what do you want us to do? What did you hope to achieve by posting here?

no body can bein my place …

So, physician, heal thyself and stop wasting your time and that of others on this forum.

Unless you are prepared to drop your arrogance, your ego, your selfish pride, your contempt for western society, your desire for sex and money etc there’s no place for you on either this forum, or in any kind of spiritual endeavour.

I also have a very dark heart and I am also a very bad person, but I can see that and I am willing to change. Are you?

#39

No Chamssou Im not letting you off with that one!!
I no speaky English properly…yet you have understood all the posts well, until now!!

You still haven’t answered the question, why did you get angry because I dont have skype?
I was willing to help you but you didn’t get your way, did you, you knew I was on to you, didnt you…?.

Evading the words in my post is what you need to do, because its the truth, which you cant face.

As you called me…You are a coward (you understand that word…yes)

My light heart was darkened by you!!!

By the way I apologise to all men reading this, except this one.

#40

Chamssou, it is really too rude to treat Kareng in this way , and u cant force anyone to go on skype. I suppose u say apologize to Kareng, this will be a start to your change. If u need help from others from the world, the first thing u shall do is, actualy to help the others firstly…
And always be grateful,
U r now in need of a miracle in your minds and spirit, I feel?
Guess what?Only gratefulness can make miracle happen.

#41

[QUOTE=belovedk;40134]Chamssou, it is really too rude to treat Kareng in this way , and u cant force anyone to go on skype. I suppose u say apologize to Kareng, this will be a start to your change. If u need help from others from the world, the first thing u shall do is, actualy to help the others firstly…
And always be grateful,
U r now in need of a miracle in your minds and spirit, I feel?
Guess what?Only gratefulness can make miracle happen.[/QUOTE]

i know exacly what im doing , interent is school , and i learnd since 13 years old , i dont want top give a lot of details …that not matter , here we say , learn and drop it … i dont wanna to share some toughts with every body espacially in this condition ,

i dont force none to answer , to come in skype , its so supid , its lmike you are in the streets and you force publics to have communication with you …but karen she forced me in this forum to be her friend , and i refused and only me i know why ? its my buisness… its not ur buisness to order me aplogize or not dont put my in the box of guilt ,u try to manipulate its seems to me like u try to deviate the topic …

so i know i dont wanna to stay to long here ,i hate forum and interent but i use it becoz there is a lot of avoid …like most of people .its new toy of 20 century .

#42

[QUOTE=chamssou15;40111] but here in algeria i dont know any algerian able to leave alone in one roomm…the lucky ones locate when they get married at the age of 40 ,= sex with women for the fisrt time in gerally … [QUOTE]

Here in the west, marriage sometimes = sex for the last time. :smiley:

[I](Mods: I hope you keep the following in French as this gentleman raised the issue of the meaning of words being different in that language. Thanks.)[/I]

Le Monsieur, compassion veut dire exactement la m?me chose en fran?ais qu’il fait en anglais. Vous ?tes venu sur ce demander de forum ce qui un peu le yoga effacera les d?chets de votre esprit. Quelques membres bienfaisants de forum offerts des mots de compassion, empathie, et conseil et vous le renvoient dans leurs visages, qui est votre pr?rogative. Mais, quand vous commencez ? en leurrer au skype et parlez de la masturbation qui soul?vera assur?ment des soup?ons au sujet de votre motif final. De vos r?ponses je conviens que le leur est beaucoup de d?chets dans votre esprit. Veuillez d?poser votre d?tritus quelque part autrement. J’ai un soup?on profond que votre intention est d’a?rer votre mati?re fonc?e et vous courez probablement hors des endroits pour faire ceci. Si vous ?tes en effet un homme alg?rien de 35 ans qui n’a jamais eu des rapports avec le sexe oppos?, je suis certain qu’il soit pour 3 raisons : 1. Vous choisissez de ne pas avoir des rapports 2. Vous ?tes emprisonn? et des rapports non permis 3. Vous ?tes tr?s r?pulsif, physiquement et spirituellement, et donc les rapports vous ?vitent. Quelle raison s’applique ? vous ?

#43

[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;40138][QUOTE=chamssou15;40111] but here in algeria i dont know any algerian able to leave alone in one roomm…the lucky ones locate when they get married at the age of 40 ,= sex with women for the fisrt time in gerally …

Here in the west, marriage sometimes = sex for the last time. :smiley:

[I](Mods: I hope you keep the following in French as this gentleman raised the issue of the meaning of words being different in that language. Thanks.)[/I]

Le Monsieur, compassion veut dire exactement la m?me chose en fran?ais qu’il fait en anglais. Vous ?tes venu sur ce demander de forum ce qui un peu le yoga effacera les d?chets de votre esprit. Quelques membres bienfaisants de forum offerts des mots de compassion, empathie, et conseil et vous le renvoient dans leurs visages, qui est votre pr?rogative. Mais, quand vous commencez ? en leurrer au skype et parlez de la masturbation qui soul?vera assur?ment des soup?ons au sujet de votre motif final. De vos r?ponses je conviens que le leur est beaucoup de d?chets dans votre esprit. Veuillez d?poser votre d?tritus quelque part autrement. J’ai un soup?on profond que votre intention est d’a?rer votre mati?re fonc?e et vous courez probablement hors des endroits pour faire ceci. Si vous ?tes en effet un homme alg?rien de 35 ans qui n’a jamais eu des rapports avec le sexe oppos?, je suis certain qu’il soit pour 3 raisons : 1. Vous choisissez de ne pas avoir des rapports 2. Vous ?tes emprisonn? et des rapports non permis 3. Vous ?tes tr?s r?pulsif, physiquement et spirituellement, et donc les rapports vous ?vitent. Quelle raison s’applique ? vous ?

D’abord je tiens a r?pondre a vos trois questions que tu tes posais a la fin de ton intervention qui me semblait beacoups plus a des griefs putot qu a une intervention en guise de proposer des tuyaux dont je devrais passer a cot? …

Il faut que tu saches que j’ai pas eu de sexe a cause de l’entourage et la culture qui emp?che le lien entre l’homme et la femme ,on nous interdisait de parler au femmes des l’enfance ,cela a ?t? tellment rigoriste alors que javais vers 20 -23 ans ,mes collugues ce qui ont eu la chance d’aller a l’universit? ont pu avoir des relations furtives en cachettes ,ici c’est pas comme chez vous on passe devant chez toi ,le petit ami de ta nenette de fillles rentre chez toi pour aller avec elle dans une aventure sexuelle souvent sans lendemain et toi tu trouves ?a normale car tout simplement t’a ?t? ?duqu? de la sorte …hyper tol?rante …ici si par example un memebre de la famille te voit discut? dans un endroit retir? avec une soeur , voire une cousine tu paiera cher et au pire tu risques ta peau …notre l?gisation ici criminalise le sex en dehors du mariage , tu peux aller en prison facilment si tu trompe ta femme ou si tu es just assis avec une nana dans un endroit public louche c’est a dire loin des regards…

Chez nous ,cet etat de fait a cr?er beaucoups de maux sociaux ,il est normle que pas ml de gens se trouve dans la m?me situation que moi ici , ici peut ?tre il se peut que tu sois tres tres malin pour baratiner des nanas ,peut ?tre t es beau gosse qu on admire , mais la carte maitraisse c’est da’voir le fric si tu souhaite avoir de succ?s et dquilibre sur le plan sentimentale ,les filles ici ne regardent queles mecs bagnol?s …

L’attraction ientre l’homme et la femme ca se soumet pas a certaine r?gle santard comme faut ?tre beau et riche , parfois on sait m?me pas pourquoi cet ?tincelle qui lie deux amants …lamour a sese raison que la raisons ne comprends pas …

Bref que tu te fais des soup?ons sur mon egard ou pas je men fous si tu va loin dans ton sceptisime , j’ai tout ?tal? mes faiblaisses que j’assume dans ce forum , mais apparement les occidentaux peuvent ?tre flexible pour comprendre comment ca marche en algerie ,un autre pays qui ressmble pas a tous les autres pays , si tu veux une preuve bah demendes toi pourquoi ya pas d’etranger chez nous ???

Je n’aimes pas qu on se m?le de mon affaire avec cette nana qui essaye de crer la zizanie , moi les gens qui croit que skype est un nid d’amour ou de perversion je les consid?re pas comme ?tant civilis? je zappes et point barre , mais l’autre elle exag?re elle fait la gamine ici pour que les gens intervenant se d?tourne non seulment du noyeaux de prob?lme , mais aussi pour trouver un faux pr?texte afin de jsutifier pourquoi il arrivent pas a me convaincre ,or leur probl?me se situe bien dans ce point pr?cis , c’est de ne pas avoir le talent sin qua non pour prendre en charge des cas assez d?licat et insolite pour eux car il connaissent pas l’algerie …