What kind of yoga should i follow to erase rubish from my mind

[QUOTE=belovedk;40134]Chamssou, it is really too rude to treat Kareng in this way , and u cant force anyone to go on skype. I suppose u say apologize to Kareng, this will be a start to your change. If u need help from others from the world, the first thing u shall do is, actualy to help the others firstly…
And always be grateful,
U r now in need of a miracle in your minds and spirit, I feel?
Guess what?Only gratefulness can make miracle happen.[/QUOTE]

i know exacly what im doing , interent is school , and i learnd since 13 years old , i dont want top give a lot of details …that not matter , here we say , learn and drop it … i dont wanna to share some toughts with every body espacially in this condition ,

i dont force none to answer , to come in skype , its so supid , its lmike you are in the streets and you force publics to have communication with you …but karen she forced me in this forum to be her friend , and i refused and only me i know why ? its my buisness… its not ur buisness to order me aplogize or not dont put my in the box of guilt ,u try to manipulate its seems to me like u try to deviate the topic …

so i know i dont wanna to stay to long here ,i hate forum and interent but i use it becoz there is a lot of avoid …like most of people .its new toy of 20 century .

[QUOTE=chamssou15;40111] but here in algeria i dont know any algerian able to leave alone in one roomm…the lucky ones locate when they get married at the age of 40 ,= sex with women for the fisrt time in gerally … [QUOTE]

Here in the west, marriage sometimes = sex for the last time. :smiley:

[I](Mods: I hope you keep the following in French as this gentleman raised the issue of the meaning of words being different in that language. Thanks.)[/I]

Le Monsieur, compassion veut dire exactement la m?me chose en fran?ais qu’il fait en anglais. Vous ?tes venu sur ce demander de forum ce qui un peu le yoga effacera les d?chets de votre esprit. Quelques membres bienfaisants de forum offerts des mots de compassion, empathie, et conseil et vous le renvoient dans leurs visages, qui est votre pr?rogative. Mais, quand vous commencez ? en leurrer au skype et parlez de la masturbation qui soul?vera assur?ment des soup?ons au sujet de votre motif final. De vos r?ponses je conviens que le leur est beaucoup de d?chets dans votre esprit. Veuillez d?poser votre d?tritus quelque part autrement. J’ai un soup?on profond que votre intention est d’a?rer votre mati?re fonc?e et vous courez probablement hors des endroits pour faire ceci. Si vous ?tes en effet un homme alg?rien de 35 ans qui n’a jamais eu des rapports avec le sexe oppos?, je suis certain qu’il soit pour 3 raisons : 1. Vous choisissez de ne pas avoir des rapports 2. Vous ?tes emprisonn? et des rapports non permis 3. Vous ?tes tr?s r?pulsif, physiquement et spirituellement, et donc les rapports vous ?vitent. Quelle raison s’applique ? vous ?

[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;40138][QUOTE=chamssou15;40111] but here in algeria i dont know any algerian able to leave alone in one roomm…the lucky ones locate when they get married at the age of 40 ,= sex with women for the fisrt time in gerally …

Here in the west, marriage sometimes = sex for the last time. :smiley:

[I](Mods: I hope you keep the following in French as this gentleman raised the issue of the meaning of words being different in that language. Thanks.)[/I]

Le Monsieur, compassion veut dire exactement la m?me chose en fran?ais qu’il fait en anglais. Vous ?tes venu sur ce demander de forum ce qui un peu le yoga effacera les d?chets de votre esprit. Quelques membres bienfaisants de forum offerts des mots de compassion, empathie, et conseil et vous le renvoient dans leurs visages, qui est votre pr?rogative. Mais, quand vous commencez ? en leurrer au skype et parlez de la masturbation qui soul?vera assur?ment des soup?ons au sujet de votre motif final. De vos r?ponses je conviens que le leur est beaucoup de d?chets dans votre esprit. Veuillez d?poser votre d?tritus quelque part autrement. J’ai un soup?on profond que votre intention est d’a?rer votre mati?re fonc?e et vous courez probablement hors des endroits pour faire ceci. Si vous ?tes en effet un homme alg?rien de 35 ans qui n’a jamais eu des rapports avec le sexe oppos?, je suis certain qu’il soit pour 3 raisons : 1. Vous choisissez de ne pas avoir des rapports 2. Vous ?tes emprisonn? et des rapports non permis 3. Vous ?tes tr?s r?pulsif, physiquement et spirituellement, et donc les rapports vous ?vitent. Quelle raison s’applique ? vous ?

D’abord je tiens a r?pondre a vos trois questions que tu tes posais a la fin de ton intervention qui me semblait beacoups plus a des griefs putot qu a une intervention en guise de proposer des tuyaux dont je devrais passer a cot? …

Il faut que tu saches que j’ai pas eu de sexe a cause de l’entourage et la culture qui emp?che le lien entre l’homme et la femme ,on nous interdisait de parler au femmes des l’enfance ,cela a ?t? tellment rigoriste alors que javais vers 20 -23 ans ,mes collugues ce qui ont eu la chance d’aller a l’universit? ont pu avoir des relations furtives en cachettes ,ici c’est pas comme chez vous on passe devant chez toi ,le petit ami de ta nenette de fillles rentre chez toi pour aller avec elle dans une aventure sexuelle souvent sans lendemain et toi tu trouves ?a normale car tout simplement t’a ?t? ?duqu? de la sorte …hyper tol?rante …ici si par example un memebre de la famille te voit discut? dans un endroit retir? avec une soeur , voire une cousine tu paiera cher et au pire tu risques ta peau …notre l?gisation ici criminalise le sex en dehors du mariage , tu peux aller en prison facilment si tu trompe ta femme ou si tu es just assis avec une nana dans un endroit public louche c’est a dire loin des regards…

Chez nous ,cet etat de fait a cr?er beaucoups de maux sociaux ,il est normle que pas ml de gens se trouve dans la m?me situation que moi ici , ici peut ?tre il se peut que tu sois tres tres malin pour baratiner des nanas ,peut ?tre t es beau gosse qu on admire , mais la carte maitraisse c’est da’voir le fric si tu souhaite avoir de succ?s et dquilibre sur le plan sentimentale ,les filles ici ne regardent queles mecs bagnol?s …

L’attraction ientre l’homme et la femme ca se soumet pas a certaine r?gle santard comme faut ?tre beau et riche , parfois on sait m?me pas pourquoi cet ?tincelle qui lie deux amants …lamour a sese raison que la raisons ne comprends pas …

Bref que tu te fais des soup?ons sur mon egard ou pas je men fous si tu va loin dans ton sceptisime , j’ai tout ?tal? mes faiblaisses que j’assume dans ce forum , mais apparement les occidentaux peuvent ?tre flexible pour comprendre comment ca marche en algerie ,un autre pays qui ressmble pas a tous les autres pays , si tu veux une preuve bah demendes toi pourquoi ya pas d’etranger chez nous ???

Je n’aimes pas qu on se m?le de mon affaire avec cette nana qui essaye de crer la zizanie , moi les gens qui croit que skype est un nid d’amour ou de perversion je les consid?re pas comme ?tant civilis? je zappes et point barre , mais l’autre elle exag?re elle fait la gamine ici pour que les gens intervenant se d?tourne non seulment du noyeaux de prob?lme , mais aussi pour trouver un faux pr?texte afin de jsutifier pourquoi il arrivent pas a me convaincre ,or leur probl?me se situe bien dans ce point pr?cis , c’est de ne pas avoir le talent sin qua non pour prendre en charge des cas assez d?licat et insolite pour eux car il connaissent pas l’algerie …

Chamssou15,

About 10 years ago I posted on an internet forum just like you did saying that I wanted to commit suicide and I needed help. When each person tried to offer me help and told their own stories of pain and suffering, instead of accepting their help and thaking them for it, I simpy argued with them. I said, “You cannot understand my pain, and what I have been through” The discussion simply turned into a discussion where I was trying to convince others how bad my life was and how I had tried everything already to fix it(I hadn’t really) Very much like this one has turned into.
Do you want to focus on your problems, or do you want solutions? We already know your life is in a bad state, there is no need to keep on telling us this.
If you genuinely want help from this forum you need to stop thinking of your problem, and start looking at solutions. So far the following has been suggested to you:

  1. Get counselling
  2. See your local religious leader
  3. My self development plan

I am going to suggest another one to you. Leave your home and go to a monestary/ashram and live a spiritual/religious life.

Lets be clear about the facts here you are 35 year old male virgin, with no qualifications, no friends, poverty and alone. Your life is in a very bad state, and all you can worry about is sex? You are not going get any women with a life like this. Like I said your only option as far as sex is concerned is to masturbate or pay for sex.

So you need to rebuild your life and only you can choose to do this. I will reiterate one possible solution on how you can do this.

  1. Go to your local counsellor or religious leader/priest/imam/guru and tell them about your problems and listen to their advice.

  2. Then start to work on the self development plan, developing each stage:

SOCIAL: Talk to people on the street, smile and say hi and then string up a conversation, “Hi, how are you” Go to your local community centre, join same interest clubs/social activities, find out about which local events are on and go there and meet people. This will gradually build your social network. Go out for a walk everyday 1-2 hours.

PHYSICAL: Join up at your local gym(also a place to meet people) and start up a routine made up of cardio + weight training. Eat healthy. Train 3-4 week times a week for an hour. If no gym, do it at home.

EMOTIONAL: Find a hobby/interest you enjoy such as drawing, writing, music. Practice 1-2 hours a day.

MENTAL: Read literature, fiction and non fiction books, poetry, science, philosophy, art. Go to your local bookshop and get yourself a book to read. Read 1-2 hours a day.

SPIRITUAL: Yoga and meditation. Wake up early in the morning and do some Yoga followed by meditation/pranayama. Make this a fixed time. This is your time to simply focus on your spirit. Do this for 1-2 hours. Then read some spiritual literature. Then at night do another meditation before you go to sleep for 15-30 min. Try to keep this time fixed as well.

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;40143]Chamssou15,

About 10 years ago I posted on an internet forum just like you did saying that I wanted to commit suicide and I needed help. When each person tried to offer me help and told their own stories of pain and suffering, instead of accepting their help and thaking them for it, I simpy argued with them. I said, “You cannot understand my pain, and what I have been through” The discussion simply turned into a discussion where I was trying to convince others how bad my life was and how I had tried everything already to fix it(I hadn’t really) Very much like this one has turned into.
Do you want to focus on your problems, or do you want solutions? We already know your life is in a bad state, there is no need to keep on telling us this.
If you genuinely want help from this forum you need to stop thinking of your problem, and start looking at solutions. So far the following has been suggested to you:

  1. Get counselling
  2. See your local religious leader
  3. My self development plan

I am going to suggest another one to you. Leave your home and go to a monestary/ashram and live a spiritual/religious life.

Lets be clear about the facts here you are 35 year old male virgin, with no qualifications, no friends, poverty and alone. Your life is in a very bad state, and all you can worry about is sex? You are not going get any women with a life like this. Like I said your only option as far as sex is concerned is to masturbate or pay for sex.

So you need to rebuild your life and only you can choose to do this. I will reiterate one possible solution on how you can do this.

  1. Go to your local counsellor or religious leader/priest/imam/guru and tell them about your problems and listen to their advice.

  2. Then start to work on the self development plan, developing each stage:

SOCIAL: Talk to people on the street, smile and say hi and then string up a conversation, “Hi, how are you” Go to your local community centre, join same interest clubs/social activities, find out about which local events are on and go there and meet people. This will gradually build your social network. Go out for a walk everyday 1-2 hours.

PHYSICAL: Join up at your local gym(also a place to meet people) and start up a routine made up of cardio + weight training. Eat healthy. Train 3-4 week times a week for an hour. If no gym, do it at home.

EMOTIONAL: Find a hobby/interest you enjoy such as drawing, writing, music. Practice 1-2 hours a day.

MENTAL: Read literature, fiction and non fiction books, poetry, science, philosophy, art. Go to your local bookshop and get yourself a book to read. Read 1-2 hours a day.

SPIRITUAL: Yoga and meditation. Wake up early in the morning and do some Yoga followed by meditation/pranayama. Make this a fixed time. This is your time to simply focus on your spirit. Do this for 1-2 hours. Then read some spiritual literature. Then at night do another meditation before you go to sleep for 15-30 min. Try to keep this time fixed as well.[/QUOTE]

i reconize your gently but i have 10000000 per cent when i said you cant contain the probelm if you have no idea about things how goes in my country ? the condition arround us they comand our destiny if we dont take offf …immagine for example u live in KSA , u have no right to see ,speak with ur cousin ,so to have fun , to try to find love forget it , mariage is often arranged so u got a lot of frustration , thant mean the law and custom build up ur life there is f… impact if u hate it or love it …

Now im gonna give you more things to poor that ur making projection about what ur know in western culture …

I hate religion but u push me to see religion man imam , priest balblabla ,if u go from example to see imam he said to u it forbiden u should to repent and stay virgin intil mariage ven he know that many algerian get old without mariage …( i dont repat things becoz may be i lose control and become indeed rude , becoz u seem dont folllow me …)

go to see priest ,hahha there is not in algeria but imagine ,i go to somone i said blablabla after he will said to me my son ur benedicted by god ,he sign ridiculous check to go to the paradise , i think religion not my trick …

You said to me leave ur country , and u think ur in UKL or usa or france …here u cant leave as u choose do u really think im stupid to ths point thant i admlit to stay in F…village ? u should to be intelligent …its better thant acuse without any lbasic logik.

i hang out pratically in the most rich country in algeria ,but i found my self like slave ,with quarter of querter of querter of dollars ( 200da) that equal one meal , and not the price of one night in the hotel …

I felt my self more alone in big city ,algerian women are rubishh …plenty of hypocrisie and frustration ,the neborhor made them obviusouly they have no chance but my life is more precioious and i try automatically to save her …and dont want to stay when rules of soci?tey treat my aims …

The goverement dont give visa , the single way to have it is t o married , and wesrten people have another vison about mariage , its not sacred ,so alla the poor algerian could find its oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold women ugly to salve it again becoz she know he have no choice ,so that add for him more humiliation …western country are matriacal system …women says no iand yes but in 99 per cent she said no …

Have you ever see playboy morrocain or tunisian or morrocain in italy france Uk usa ,siwss zerland walking with his wife wich have the age of his grand mother ? i guess no if im based on your things written …

Social /// talk with people in strret ? are you crazy or what ,? women here they have not courage to speak in virtual so in real ,its really danger …

U speak like child who try to discover this jungle , what that mean smile , say god morning ,blblbla …? the people have their own distance , here if there is marialis interest even ur nothing u became important ,

I speak 3 language so that mean i acces to 3 cultures , but the comon thing in western people espically the anglophone they are fearful about forigner …i partcipated since 2 years in webstie when there 1 million of persone speaking in mic and webcam ,and i was despoited no culture no good behave ,n and when u try to apprach them ==== they answer u shut F…Up …? is this ur education in western countries ?

Im like miror if ur sympathic u will receive my best but if ur stupid and rough u will receive the bad things from me , so u have to choose…

Pyschical …chapiter , so i still like sport i joind two club ,but in the club no shower no clean no people of my age there is only 3 or 4 personne in the session where i am registred ,if for example u practsiue jkarat? aikido and accidenteny u broke ur neck u have no security social , and is not hygicnic at all when we worked out there is toeilt smelly full of piss and shiit ? so u try to be healthy and u put ur self in danger …chose in my place ur more smart than me …

I pracatsied body building during 12 years ago , all i added is not mausvcle but chronic painful kness and artculations …i have no money to see good doctor and to pass IRM radiopghaic . you choose in my place again …what u gonna do

emotioanal = hobby ? my hobbie is to take off from here but i cant i dont want to repat i said the reason 10000000000000000000000 times so if u try to be gently u should to focus about evry details i give.

Mental = all i d o is vaiguate on interent but i have question for u ? people they dont give shiiii… about culture , why ? why for example in youtub or daily …when its doctor talking you find 20 or 40 or 1000 viewer depend the subject , but when its chicks saying nothing and showing his teddy bear for example you find 1000000000000 viewer , could u tell me if u can share intelligent things with those 100000000000 kinks of viwers who dont want to learn but to fulfill desire ? i think u will fail to speak gd things with theme ,u should rather speak shhiiiiii…that what they want to hear , thatcatch their atten,tion if u need atten,tion .

situral , yoga is anoyaing , espacilly with my probelm of join ,i practise yoga but my mind is cabled with the same probelm ,i do karat? , but my mind is calbled ,i go shopping but my mind thinkngs about failure , i speak with anyed stupid S but my mind feel hurt and woinder why i havent right to find better , …i m swiming but in deepp of water my mind cant stop to feel pain of failure , i sitt near the sea …but my mind is fulled of anger why i cant accros this F …medieterianinan ??? …etc

situral , yoga is anoyaing , espacilly with my probelm of join ,i practise yoga but my mind is cabled with the same probelm ,i do karat? , but my mind is calbled ,i go shopping but my mind thinkngs about failure , i speak with anyed stupid S but my mind feel hurt and woinder why i havent right to find better , …i m swiming but in deepp of water my mind cant stop to feel pain of failure , i sitt near the sea …but my mind is fulled of anger why i cant accros this F …medieterianinan ??? …etc

Based on what you wrote here, your problem is that you can’t focus your mind because you are distracted by feeling hurt, and angry, and frustrated. Do you agree?

Namaste chamssou15,

I understand that life in Algeria is probably very different, but there are certain aspects about human nature which are the same across the species, and I would imagine it is no different in Algeria.

In the way you write I can see you have a lot of frustration, especially sexual frustration and frustration with women. There is a lot of disappointment with socieity as well and how it is.

It is fair to say you are a very frustrated man and it comes across strongly my friend. This is the energy you send out and people you meet are receiving this energy and they respond to that energy by avoiding you, being rude to you, ignorong you.

Anyway, you asked for advice from Yoga. And here is what Yoga says:

The first step you need to take is taking responsibiliy that you are creating these conditions subconsciously. It is your own mind, nobody else that is causing these situations to happen to you.

You are reacting to the world around you constantly and causing yourself frustration. First recognise this simple fact: YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE WORLD AROUND YOU. The world does not belong to you for you to change. If you cannot accept this fact, then stop reading this post. If you accept it, then read on.

You cannot change the world around you, but you can change how you relate to the world. In order to do this start with:

  1. Acceptance. Accept the world as it is. It may not be as you want it, but in spite of what you want, it is as it is. You were born into this world, with the parents you have, the society and culture you are in and the position you assume in it.

I also had the misfortune of being born to bad parents, a society and culture which left me emotionally really hurt. Although I still get regrets from time to time on the world I was born into, I accept it now. I have been trying to make this world work for me the last 10 years. I have come a long way since.

If you are not going to accept, then stop reading, Yoga cannot help you if you do not have the maturity to accept your situation. But if you do, then read on.

  1. Make the best of what you have. Your goal in life is self-actualization. What does this mean? It means becoming the best that you can in all departments: social, physical, emotional, mental and spiritual.
    You need to work on each aspect and develop it more and more. Why? Because you have no choice. This is what the point of life is about according to Yoga. Full actualization of all your potentials.

You have amazing potential according to Yoga, but you only know about 1% of that potential.

It does not depend on your budget. Making friends does not require money, it requires being able to open up to others, smile and say hello. It requires making efforts to contact other people.

I am sorry I am not going to believe for a minute that Algeria does not have social clubs, community centres, social events for you to participate in.
Your attitude is wrong. Put a smile on your face, go out and say hello to people. Eventually, start to talk to people. Ask them about themselves, they love that.

I have talked with people in UK, Germany, France, India, Holland, Spain and I have never had a problem smiling, saying hi to somebody and getting hi and a smile back.

At one point when I had no friends, I joined various clubs and groups where I met people who shared my interests and who are now amongst my best friends. We do things together regularly now. I enjoy being with them.

Volunteering at your local charity organization or helping the eldery or disabed also does not require money. Just sign up. Say you want to help. Most people do not decline sincere offers for help.

Similarly, getting physically fit does not require money. All you need is your own body. If you have some physical difficulties, then you need to take that into account when you exercise. Don’t overtrain. Don’t push yourself too much. Stay within comfortable limits.

Keep your mind active does not require a lot of money either. Go to the library and lend out some books. Go to the charity bookshop and get some books. Go online and read loads of information for free. Go to the shop buy a book of crosswords/puzzles. Aim to do one crossword a day. That will keep you going for a bit.

It sounds like though you go on youtube and skype for mind stimulation, and then you complain that it is shallow lol

You also need no money to meditate. Just find some time, sit down, let go and just remain silent.

Look there are no excuses. Get on with it.

If you accept this, then read on:

  1. Enjoy

Yoga is a philosophy and practice that tells you to enjoy your life, whatever you are doing. Whatever you do, immerse yourself in it. Act like there is nothing else in the world at that time. Just you and what you are doing.
When talking to people give them your full attention. Listen to them as if every word they utter is gold. Just doing this will make people fall in love with you. People love to be listened to. Invite them to speak more.

When doing the household tasks and work put all your attention in that. Enjoy it. Again there is nothing else in the world except you and those household tasks. Comprende?
Same goes for when working out, reading and meditating.

And that’s it. Does it sound simple? Good, because it is simple. Anger, frustration, anxiety, worry, grief only come when you give your mind time to think. But if you are living your life without thinking, but constantly enjoying whatever you are doing, these emotions will not come.

Look how simple your life could be. Here is what a a day in the week may look like for somebody with a full time job:

5am wake up: Brush your teeth and mouth, empty your bowels, have a shower, then do your Yoga and meditation. Then read some spiritual literature.
7am: Have a light breakfast
8am: Go outside for a light walk, smile and greet the world as you go by
9am - 5pm: Go to work
6pm: Go to the gym and work out/exercise at home
7pm: Have dinner, then relax with a book and read.
8pm: Do the required household chores and then do some hobby like drawing, music, painting etc
10pm: meditate and go to sleep

Keep your waking, sleeping, eating and meditation times the same throughout the week, or most days. The rest you can adjust and change based on your schedule. If you are constantly doing something and enjoying what you are doing, then your days will go by quickly.

I will say this in a separate post, because I don’t consider it important.

Forget about women for now

First pull your life together first, learn to enjoy it. Then women will come themselves. I will be honest with you, if I was a woman, I would stay miles away from you. Do you want to know why? Because you are an incredibly miserable and frustrated man at this moment.

I am not shooting you down, I am simply showing you the truth of your situation right now. People do not like talking to miserable and frustrated people. They prefer talking to people who smile, laugh and enjoy life.

First learn to enjoy life. Smile, accept and and make the best of what you have.

Surya Deva is very correct, people like to talk to positive and sun shine persons…
Even though Love means unconditional, which means It will always be there no matter it is miserable or not,It can not last longer if we dont have positive energy inside, cuz Love is energy , and if u truly want to have a good future with a wife, do u want her to suffer? U want her to have a good living life with u, too.

Chamssou,

Many people here on this forum have offered to you good advise to help you with your depression. Again I say to you that you have to decide whether you want to continue suffering or take steps to find happiness. It is never easy. Surya Deva outlined step by step a path for you to heal. He shared his personal experience with you with heartfelt concern. So did Belovedk and Nobody. Kareng offered to help you with another problem. You have many kind people here willing to help you. You must take the first step and accept their help. But no excuses why you can’t. Find reasons that you can.

[QUOTE=chamssou15;40028]hello

In algeria there is only one religion …but me im in lack of means materials not spiritual …that what im feel now…i try some simple posture of yoga , breathing exercices ,but im still the same depressed person …this combat are build up since i was boy …its targedy i reconize im never feel happy ,when i talk with somoe people in interent they think im funnny but in fact im not …[/QUOTE]

All we need is love…
No one loves you you said. Do you love anyone or anything? Do you love yourself?

Start to give love and it will come back to you.

What are the things you enjoy in your life? What do you like to do or what you want to do?

Do some weights! Heavy exercises. Squats, Push-ups, chin-ups etc. If you need to raise your sex drive and confidence, you need testosterone. Heavy lifting exercises help to put muscle on and increase your natural testosterone levels. Increased testosterone will raise your sex drive, help with sleep, decrease depression, and improve confidence. If there was anyone who sounded like they need to do a little weight lifting, it’s you. Best of luck my friend.

Hi chamsoou,

I would recommend ‘Deep Meditation’ from the AYP system of yoga.

You’ll find the link here:-

http://www.aypsite.org/forum/

You’ll find online lessons and a helpful support forum there too.

Just the ticket!, i think.Very effective you should find (certainly) for the stated objective of emptying your mind of rubbish, or inner/outer noise, as well as providing a whole host of other benefits principally “inner silence” is what it’s called in that system.You can call it raja yoga,or royal yoga, if you like.

All you need is a willingness or desire to do the practices, of course.This may translate into a willingness or desire for change, spiritual desire or bhakti.You suspect there maybe something more in life or to it but what is it? It’s certainly in part your inner(& therefore outer) potential and a whole lot more which you can unlock with practice and training.You’ll learn how to access pure bliss conciousness, just like it says in the lessons. This has been called the fourth state or turiya( the other 3 being waking, dreaming sleep & dreamless sleep: see here or here) which is often described as being our true nature,our real self.Mantra or japa yoga practice can facilitate access to this more “enlightened”, suppposedly ,at least in theory, state of consciousness…Try it & see for yourself, if you are so inclined.You can be the judge of that.

This is really pathetic. The man has apparently stopped listening, presumably because he’s tired of getting preached at, yet people continue to preach. Pathetic. Everybody wants to be the teacher, but the student has rejected you.

Thats because the student wasn’t a student…

[QUOTE=Asuri;40337]This is really pathetic. The man has apparently stopped listening, presumably because he’s tired of getting preached at, yet people continue to preach. Pathetic. Everybody wants to be the teacher, but the student has rejected you.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it’s pathetic that we live in a society where people try and help one another lol

Asuri I don’t understand! I believe with my heart that we were all trying to help him.

Asuri comment to Chamssou…Based on what you wrote here, your problem is that you can’t focus your mind because you are distracted by feeling hurt, and angry, and frustrated. Do you agree?

ahum…

Like I said…the student wasn’t a student

Preaching is… thou shalt not w…keth…thou shalt not have a loweth opionionith of womeneth, thou shalt not want to wan…kth over Skypeth

I think he just had a crush on kareng.

hahahahahahahaha trust you