“The Siddhis are born of birth, [B]drugs[/B], mantras, penance or Smadhi. (IV-1)” (Yoga sutras)
I had a frind who told me that is possible awake siddhis or raise kundalini or samadhi using drugs like DMT, Lsd, Marihuana, Ayahuasca and others. You can get it almost instantaneously but is too dangerous if you are not ready.
So, why’s that?
Namaste.
[QUOTE=Deicide;33771]“The Siddhis are born of birth, [B]drugs[/B], mantras, penance or Smadhi. (IV-1)” (Yoga sutras)
I had a frind who told me that is possible awake siddhis or raise kundalini or samadhi using drugs like DMT, Lsd, Marihuana, Ayahuasca and others. You can get it almost instantaneously but is too dangerous if you are not ready.
So, why’s that?
Namaste.[/QUOTE]
Because they are on drugs. There’s people who believe some crazy stuff without drugs, let alone on em.
[QUOTE=YogiAdam;33780]Because they are on drugs. There’s people who believe some crazy stuff without drugs, let alone on em.[/QUOTE]
So Patanjali and a lot of yogis are crazy.
Ok.
By the way, thanks for the link.!
[QUOTE=Deicide;33816]So Patanjali and a lot of yogis are crazy…![/QUOTE]
I can’t say I know them personally 
[QUOTE=Deicide;33771]“The Siddhis are born of birth, [B]drugs[/B], mantras, penance or Smadhi. (IV-1)” (Yoga sutras)
I had a frind who told me that is possible awake siddhis or raise kundalini or samadhi using drugs like DMT, Lsd, Marihuana, Ayahuasca and others. You can get it almost instantaneously but is too dangerous if you are not ready.
So, why’s that?
Namaste.[/QUOTE]
It is possible decide because the mind, body and consciousness and directly connected. Such that biochemical changes to the physical body will directly have an impact on the mind. The drug removes temporarily certain restrictions in the mind that prevent higher states of consciousness or siddhis from manifesting. I have only ever done drugs once and that was mushrooms, and it was as if a barrier was lifted or something and my concentration power became very powerful.
Thank you, Surya Deva.
I think than that’s the problem, drugs would works just by a certain amount of time, wouldn’t be a permament state. But I guess that it could exist a way to make this permanent, right?
Thanks again.
I have practiced Kundalini yoga for years off and on. It is advised to never short cut the process, or try to raise kundalini energy when you are not ready. Of course you will have a glorious experience if you take drugs to make it happen, but it is a false experience.
I think I prefer the real thing! Yes!
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I think than that’s the problem, drugs would works just by a certain amount of time, wouldn’t be a permament state. But I guess that it could exist a way to make this permanent, right?[/quote]
Deicide,
Ask yourself…if drugs could awaken anything, wouldn’t we have a completely awakened world by now?
Awakening is not a permanent state by any means, but something you DO and have to keep doing: a mountain to a plateau and then assimilation with everyday-life, to another mountain, another plateau and another assimilation…in other words the work never ends, only there’s a great deal of joy for the work and happiness to see each and every mountain. With drugs, there’s only one mountain, one valley and no plateau, no assimilation. You just go up and down, up and down, and that’s all.
peace,
siva
It could remove mental obstructions or blocks.But on it’s own it’s unllikely to do much. It’s not reaaally something that happens by accident i.e a spontaneous awakening.More work to do.
Combine it with kundalini yoga and then yes you will probably have more success.
I did hear some anecdotal evidence of a guru prescribing psychedlics to one of his students who he felt might benefit.Probably to remove mental obstructions.
Some have used psychedelics to help awaken K (but probably not on it’s own* it does sound quite esoteric though).It is documented in the literature.But i would have thought they may have merely used it to do some housecleaning on their mind before taking on other more formal practices.I’m guessing here btw.
I probably would’nt recommend it though for the reasons Siva stated.I guess it could work or have some benefits.
You might find this interesting. One perspective.
The message of oneness and unity, and those types of feelings that psychdelics could facilitate, is relevant.
Spiritual knowledge or knowing.Notice she talks about being or feeling less attached to sensory input (while on it at least), perhaps dropping identification with…Like an Out-of-Mind/body experience, you might say.
we can get temporary siddhis through drugs as they do in shaman-ism. thats it.
we have already discussed a lot about it here.
This post I did may help to understand why its not good for yogis
http://www.yogaforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30035&postcount=112
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With drugs, there’s only one mountain, one valley and no plateau, no assimilation. You just go up and down, up and down, and that’s all.
peace,
siva[/QUOTE]
Cool;)
Hi Shivoham,
I tend to agree with what you wrote there.I think with psychdelics because it tends to heighten sensory experience it couldd prove more of a distraction.I just have’nt figured out how it might fit into an over-all sadhana yet.There are books and prominent figures out there that talk about it.Maybe they will come to me if i dig around.
Many sadhus and Yoguis specially in India use drugs as a tool to enrich a meditation state easyer. My opinion is that if you do it without drugs you enter this space through the front door, and if you choose with drugs you enter maybe through the back door. If you want to enter somewhere is always better you do it using the front door and being the lord of your own mind.
I’ve heard an indian say that the ganga that the sadhus smoke is more of a culture thing and possibly just an addiction. I.e I have heard ,at least the way some of them smoke it ,that they gain little spiritual benefits and it is thus just recreational smoking. I’m not totally sure though. I know that Siva is the lord of ganga or whatever.
Open ,the doors of perception…
Many sadhus and Yoguis specially in India use drugs as a tool to enrich a meditation state easyer
I’ve never tried t it to enrich a meditation state. But then i don’t smoke it. Used to. I honestly cannot imagine using as an aid. Although i think it could be. I think though it could remove some blocks but also by the same token create new other ones.
I often do feel relaxed or “chilled” after smoking it But i think it’s psychologically addictive.When i gave it up after about ten years of buying it it took me a lonog time to come to the conclusion, again a long time ago before i got into smack whcih i kicked 5 years ago btw after discovering yoga(infact yoga took away the cravings after quitting a methodone script in jan06-taking up yoga and quiitting the script,i.e opiates(10yrs), co-incided at the same time).I eventually arrived at this conclusion that it was psychologically addictive for me at least. .
[QUOTE=Deicide;33771]“The Siddhis are born of birth, [B]drugs[/B], mantras, penance or Smadhi. (IV-1)” (Yoga sutras)
I had a frind who told me that is possible awake siddhis or raise kundalini or samadhi using drugs like DMT, Lsd, Marihuana, Ayahuasca and others. You can get it almost instantaneously but is too dangerous if you are not ready.
So, why’s that?
Namaste.[/QUOTE]
aha… it is like force one’s way through the keyhole in to paradise…
[QUOTE=CityMonk;35174]aha… it is like force one’s way through the keyhole in to paradise…[/QUOTE]
How is that?
Hey OP, what part of Bolivia are you located in? Are you from Bolivia or just living there? I have family in Cochabamba!
Im from Bolivia. I live in Cochabamba as well.
