Yoga and the Strongman

Hello all my name is Dave and I currently compete in Strongman. I was thinking of implementing Yoga as part of my core training. I feel that an increase in flexibility and sense of calm will help take me to the next level in Strongman (yes ESPN)

I guess my main fear is being so large and walking into a Yoga studio full of tiny people who are going to be far more advanced in this area. I have read some information on this subject but I just feel lost.

Can anyone help an extremely large man figure out what would be the right direction to take? Do I start with videos and then move to a group setting?

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Hai, Dave. My name is Corey. I, too, have recently been bitten by the strongman bug. Unfortunately, I often find myself missing workouts. Thankfully, I have found yoga to be the calming influence that I needed in order to stay focused. Since I started, I’ve gone from 305 lbs. all the way down to 290 lbs.! Also, my flexibility has improved tenfold.

All I can say is that you need to just seize the day. Don’t worry about how scared the people at the yoga studio might be; just go and join in. I’m sure they will treat you just as I was treated when I first joined - beautifully! Rarely have I heard instances of yoga practitioners being as discourteous as the riff-raff found in commercial gyms these days.

Good luck, my friend!:slight_smile:

[QUOTE=CYTX.;21529]

Good luck, my friend!:)[/QUOTE]

Hi Corey. Thanks for sharing that. I guess I just feel weird that I am 6’7 345lbs and am considering walking into a yoga studio.

What form of yoga do you practice? I get confused by all the different types and which would have the best carryover to my style of training.

[QUOTE=Lencho…;21532]Hi Corey. Thanks for sharing that. I guess I just feel weird that I am 6’7 345lbs and am considering walking into a yoga studio.

What form of yoga do you practice? I get confused by all the different types and which would have the best carryover to my style of training.[/QUOTE]

I am currently practicing the Iyengar style. I am very interested in Ashtanga, but whenever I see “Power Yoga” offered at some places, I’m doubtful that they will not be following the true Ashtanga principles.

Good for you that you have found your path to oneness!

[QUOTE=CYTX.;21536]

Good for you that you have found your path to oneness![/QUOTE]

Thanks for writing that summary of styles.

[QUOTE=Lencho…;21537]Thanks for writing that summary of styles.[/QUOTE]

Should your thirst for knowledge go unquenched, shoot me a PM and we can chat longer on the subject.

xoxo

[QUOTE=CYTX.;21539]Should your thirst for knowledge go unquenched, shoot me a PM and we can chat longer on the subject.

xoxo[/QUOTE]

I really appreciate your help being that you lift weights as well, but please refrain from the xoxo with me. I’m aware of my user name but I can assure that I am by no means a true Lencho as you might think.

thox

CYTX., I’m very interested in learning more about how you integrate Iyengar yoga and your strongman training. Will you please elaborate on this?

[QUOTE=LNT;21542]CYTX., I’m very interested in learning more about how you integrate Iyengar yoga and your strongman training. Will you please elaborate on this?[/QUOTE]

I feel embarrassed that I had to Google this but I’m interested in how you do this as well

David and Corey,
I am so glad to read your posts this morning and to see you’ve made a connection here within just a few posts. InnerAthlete is one member, and well-trained Yoga teacher, who has worked with athletes of all levels of play, even professional American football players. My guess is he’ll be glad to offer you whatever he can to help you on your way. I work solely in the therapeutic application of Yoga, but I have not worked with people of your size, or with your specific training goals. Most of the professional, or semi-professional, athletes I have worked with are runners, cyclists and skiers. My husband is a professional skier and he is also my client and guinea pig. :slight_smile:

David, since you are just starting out, I want to share the framework I use when working with professional athletes who are wanting to incorporate Yoga into their lives and their training protocols. I begin by becoming very familiar with their in-place training program and find ways to make what is already there more Yogic in its application. I begin by using breath, bhandhas, mental focus and adjusting your alignment there, in those exercises first, before introducing asana (yoga postures). Assuming you are already maintaining a full schedule of workout designed for your Strongman goals, I also recommend that you only pull in additional exercise, even Yogic asana practice, as needed to your specific goals. As you both know well, injury due to over training is a huge problem for many athlete populations; and nothing is more frustrating then being sidelined from a training injury.

With your Strongman goals, and the demand that you are already asking of your body from that training, I would caution you about going into most classrooms for your Yoga practice. The agenda for classroom Yoga is a group-orientated agenda not one that is specific for you; you may get personal adjustment, even sound adjustments in a classroom, but they may not be specific enough for your needs. My recommendation would be to meet with a well-trained Yoga therapist, or teacher who has significant therapeutic training, and create a program that will support your very specific needs and that will change as your training program changes.

Your unique joint range of motion, your strength and flexibility evaluated front to back and left to right, your diet, your intention and goals for your Yoga practice, your personal body awareness, sleeping soundness…so many factors should be in play in creating a beneficial, therapeutic practice.

I am eager to see that IA will offer you and also to hear about what you each discover. Please continue to add to this thread: you are a new population for me too and I am always interested in learning more.

Take care,
Nichole

[QUOTE=LNT;21542]CYTX., I’m very interested in learning more about how you integrate Iyengar yoga and your strongman training. Will you please elaborate on this?[/QUOTE]

Well, if your familiar with Iyengar at all, you know that it involves that uses of props (blocks, belts, straps, etc.). This is what drew me to it initially, as those implements are things I’m familiar with through my experience with strongman.

Another aspect of Iyengar that led me to seek enlightenment throught it was it’s focus on body alignment. Proper body alignment cannot be stressed enough in regards to injury avoidance, IMHO.

Finally, some studies have shown Iyengar to be a complementary treatment for depression. Considering my everlasting battle with weight loss, this intrigued me greatly.

[QUOTE=Nichole;21545]David and Corey,
I am so glad to read your posts this morning and to see you’ve made a connect here within just a few posts. InnerAthlete is one member, and well-trained Yoga teacher, who has worked with athletes of all levels of play, even professional American football players. My guess is he’ll be glad to offer you whatever he can to help you on your way. I work solely in the therapeutic application of Yoga, but I have not worked with people of your size, or with your specific training goals.

David, since you are just starting out, I want to share the framework I use when working with professional athletes who are wanting to incorporate Yoga into their lives and their training protocols. I begin by becoming very familiar with their in-place training program and find ways to make what is already there more Yogic in its application. I begin by using breath, bhandhas, mental focus and adjusting your alignment there, in those exercises first, before introducing asana (yoga postures). Assuming you are already maintaining a full schedule of workout designed for your Strongman goals, I also recommend that you only pull in additional exercise, even Yogic asana practice, as needed to your specific goals. As you both know well, injury due to over training is a huge problem for many athlete populations; and nothing is more frustrating then being sidelined from a training injury.

With your Strongman goals, and the demand that you are already asking of your body from that training, I would caution you to use great in going into most classrooms for Yoga practice. The agenda for classroom Yoga is a group-orientated agenda not one that is specific for you; you may get personal adjustment, even sound adjustments in a classroom, but they may not be specific enough for your needs. My recommendation would be to meet with a well-trained Yoga therapist, or teacher who has significant therapeutic training, and create a program that will support your very specific needs and that will change as your training program changes.

Your unique joint range of motion, your strength and flexibility evaluated front to back and left to right, your diet, your intention and goals for your Yoga practice, your personal body awareness, sleeping soundness…so many factors should be in play in creating a beneficial, therapeutic practice.

I am eager to see that IA will offer you and also to hear about what you each discover. Please continue to add to this thread: you are a new population for me too and I am always interested in learning more.

Take care,
Nichole[/QUOTE]

Great post Nichole, thank you very much.

I feel like there is a war going on inside of me right now. Part of me wants to continue the path that I am on, the be considered one of the World’s Strongest Men, but the price you pay for that is very great. I am currently consuming close to 8000 calories a day with close to 550 grams of protein. My large stature and weight is putting a tremendous amount of stress on my joints and I’ve recently started to develop sleep apnea which is bad because I require a tremendous amount of rest due to the rigors of my training schedule.

The other part of me wants balance and flexibilty. No more pain. I feel bad when people always assume I play football or are intimidated by my stature.

I think I will take your advise on getting some one on one instruction. Do you know a good place to find a qualified teacher? Are you available for this, assuming no geographic restraints?

[QUOTE=Lencho…;21548]

I feel like there is a war going on inside of me right now. [/QUOTE]That is because you have yet to find your inner light brah.

Seek out through the darkness until you see the headlight of the train comin’.

Then run!

As Nicole points out, a classroom setting meets some needs while individual sessions meet others. This, regardless of the style - iyengar, ashtanga, power flow, et al.

If I were training for a strength competition (which I am not) I would not be doing AB classes at the local Gold’s Gym. I would be working one-on-one with a certified and highly skilled strength trainer. The holds true for yoga as well. Ergo finding a very skilled and highly qualified teacher to work with you individually is, IMO, the most fruitful way to go.

I’ll point you to my web site so you can have a visual of this individual work. The photo is from work with Kurtis Shultz, Strength Coach for the Tampa Bay Buccanners. At the time he was 6’5" 290. I assure t=you, this was a challenge for both student AND teacher:-)

You can, of course, start with videos and group classes but it would not be the most effective path for the direction you outline.

Welcome Lencho.

Your fears of being outcast are unwarranted. I have dated many football players and athletes over the years and always manage to convince them to come to my Thursday night yoga class. They often giggle and struggle at first, but I have always helped them to find their own path.

It sounds as if you have a lot of support here, and this kind of question is great to address. How can a highly trained athlete, so used to gross motor patterns, utilize yoga to benefit their sport.

I will keep an eye here to see if any others have had my experiences or can give better advice than myself. :grin:

WOW, IA! That is a nice website you’ve got there! I notice that you’re based in Seattle, but worked with athletes and teams in Florida. Are you kind of like a “gun for hire” in the yoga world? Have you any experience working in the North Texas area? If so, who might you recommend that has some credentials comparable to yours?

[QUOTE=InnerAthlete;21550]As Nicole points out, a classroom setting meets some needs while individual sessions meet others. This, regardless of the style - iyengar, ashtanga, power flow, et al.

If I were training for a strength competition I would not be doing AB classes at the local Gold’s Gym. I would be working one-on-one with a certified and highly skilled strength trainer. The holds true across borders into the state of yoga.

I’ll point you to my web site so you can have a visual of this individual work. The photo is work with Kurtis Shultz, Strength Coach for the Buccanners. At the time he was 6’5" 290. This is a more than fair challenge even for the most robust yoga teacher, I assure you. This individual work allowed us to focus on Kurtis’ needs with little to no distraction.

You can, of course, start with video and group classes but it would not be the most effective path for the direction you outline.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the post. Your site is quite informative. I will look over it when I have more time.

I can assure you I will not being going to any classes in a commercial gym. I train at home with weights as it is. This is part of my reluctance to attending a yoga class in a yoga only facility. I tried the yoga in the hot room once and I loved it. I felt sorry poor lady teaching the class. She was trying to help me while instructing student.

Picture a very petite lady pushing on my back while I’m trying to touch my toes in a seated position. What amazed me was she never lost the calm in her voice. That experience has never left my mind. Not sure if that is a good or bad thing

I’m soaking up all the knowledge and wisdom of this beautiful website.

It’s truly inspirational. The people here are a joy to behold.

I highly doubt that there is any strongman competitors in here.

Not sure of you’re skeptisism but here is a video of me at a meet a few year back

Edit: Thank you whoever deleated that post