Yoga sutras, II, 30-31 Yama ? Self control for social harmony

[b]II, 30 ahimsa satya asteya brahmacarya aparigraha yamah
II, 31 jati desa kala samaya annavachinnah sarva-bhaumah mata-vatam

Self- control
consists of five principles:
non-violence,
truthfulness,
freedom from stealing,
behaviour that respects
the Divine as omnipresent,
and freedom from greed.

These are called the
great universal vows
when they are extended unconditionally
to nurture everyone,
regardless of status,
place, time or circumstance.[/b]

M. Stiles

The five principles of yama are non-violence (ahimsa), truthfulness (satya), freedom from stealing (asteya), continence or celibacy (bramacharya), and freedom from greed (aparigraha). Iyengar explains that these principles provides guidance for the yoga practioner to live harmoniously within society and are applicable under all circumstances. Swami Shyam describes that ?..Yam (yama) reaches its peak when one becomes so established in it that he always acts and thinks for the universe as a whole. Then he thinks beyond the bounds of any kind of species and beyond any space, nation, or time. This yam (yama) is known by the word maha vraat, greatest observance.? (p. 78 )

Iyengar, B.K.S., Light on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. New Delhi, India: Harper Collins Publications India. 1993

Swami Satchidananda, The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. Buckingham, VA: Integral Yoga Publications. 2004

Swami Shyam, Patanjali Yog Darshan, India: International Meditation Institute, 2001, 3rd. edition

Stiles, M., Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, Boston, MA: Red Wheel/Weiser LLC. 2002

To be noted that Mukunda does not translate Brahmacharya as continece or celibacy, but:

[B]“behaviour that respects[/B]
[B]the Divine as omnipresent”[/B]

Wikipedia gives the following etimology:

[I]The word brahmacharya stems literally from two components:[/I]
[ol]
[li][I]Brahma, the word for the absolute, eternal, never-born god-head. [/I][/li][li][I]Acharya composed of char - “to go” and ‘a’ - “toward”. Together this makes the word ‘charya’, which is often translated as activity, mode of behaviour, a ‘virtuous’ way of life. Acharya has meant in practice a teacher, spiritual guide, master etc and [/I][/ol][I]So the word brahmacharya indicates a life lived in conformance with the deeper principles of realisation of Brahma-nature.[/I][/li]
To further develop this view, I have written the followings:

[COLOR=blue]Walking with God, having our gaze on God, the divine. God is invisible. The spiritual is invisible. How can than we follow something what we do not see ? Through God’s manifestations.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Man expereinces the world through the senses. Man today is left alone to the senses. We percieve only the physical things, things what have a physical body in space, or things what manifest through sound, heat, touch, smell and taste. But not all bodies are the same. We see reigns of minerals, plant life, animal life, and we see our fellow man. In everything what has a structure, we witness a great complexity, a great wisdom, and we guess a higher menaing, reason, wonder behind them. The world, and man in it, is a wonder. Our life is a wonder. We seek knowledge of both ourself and the world. We want a meaning for our life, as we feel there is one. We are clueless. We have science on one part, something what deals with everything measurable, repeatable, describable, where intellect reigns, than we have religion, what is revelations accepted by groups of people and where based on these revelations, personal attempts to reach the divine are made, and we have art emerging from the depths of soul and personal life experience.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]One, based on one’s nature follows happiness. Happiness is everyone’s God. Brahmacharya means finding your own happiness in the world. This is a continuous process, and everyone does this. The sutras were given in a religious culture, what took God, the existence of divinity, a fact. That mindset has changed in our materialist world. But everyone will accept that he/she seeks his/her own happiness. Now, to realize this happiness, we must know who we are, and what the world is. We cannot be happy if we do not know who is the subject of this happiness. We also need to know what the world is because we and the world, are one. Can we live without air to breath, a ground to walk on, food to eat, a father and mother to be born from ? A serious search to answer these questions will lead everyone to the supersensible. Brahmacharya is honesty and determimantion, to go all the way, always have our feet on the path towards this knowledge. We do this through many ways, but this is their essence: the thirst for our true meaning."[/COLOR]

On the other hand, Swami Sivananda uses the term as celibacy, refraining from sexual activity. In his teaching, real brahmacharya is performed when the mind is freed of all sexual samskaras, and the disciple is anchored in The Self. Before that stage, according to Raman Maharshi, brahmacharya is forced, it needs a vow to be taken. Celibacy is stated as a requirement for kaya siddhi.

Some use the term as freeing oneself from the authority of sexual instinct, gaining self control regarding this activity, and not total continence.
From all desires, the sexual desire is the hardest to conquer. To accopmlish this, there is no doubt, that is a true measure of self control. It cannot be a requirement on all yogis, and it is advisable only if the right karma is there to make it possible, otherwise it migh become a form of purposless ascetism with unpleasant karmic consequences.

Dear Hubert,

I would agree that your interpretation is consistent with Mukunda’s phrasing. I choses to use celibacy and continence because for economy of words and because it is the usual interpretation.

There are an infinite number of ways to Spirit or God – and each finds their own way and their own interpretations. A later sutra specifically focuses on brahmacharya and perhaps we can expand this discussion further then.

With respect and love

I find yama and niyama to be of utmost importance for a yogi, the base of any spiritual journey. This, I think cannot be said too many times.
Thank you for the Swami shyam quote … maha vraat, I did not know this term, and it is a wonderful (though far) goal to aspire to.
I am looking forward on discussions on brahmacharya as celibacy, as I still have an important (at least to me) thought to share.

I think it is important to relate also to previous sutras that advice us how to purify our mind, so that our thoughts and emotions become harmonized with our actions. Otherwise it can happen that we perform our actions according to Yamas, but we repress our thoughts and emotions.

Certain emotions and thoughts must be repressed. There is no easy way.

Sometimes I become angry, frustrated, as someone harms me, or my ego. Adrenalin rushes through my veins, and the thought/picture of me giving him a healthy slap on his face flashes through my mind. You must agree, this must be repressed.
I see a young woman, half dressed, as it is summertime, she puts her breasts into this tiny bra, they almost spill out. Instantly I have a dirty thought. I am not consciously creating the thought, but I can’t help having it. The conditioning, they say. Instinct they say. Karmic seed of lust, awakening, I say. Should I not repress this thought ? Should I indulge myself in a sexual fantasy ? We all know where that leads … to adultery. I love my wife, and I do not want to cheat. So I must nip such things in the bud. Marriage is in fact, a form of celibacy.
Only hypocrites pretend that they do not face such temptations. They think, that’s OK, I am strong, until an occasion rises. Than they say, it would not hurt her to try this, once (if they think at all of the poor wife or pratner, at all). Than when it feels so great, it becomes a habit. It is just sex. I love my wife. I am a good provider. What she does not know, can’t harm her. What does she want anyway ? I have my needs.
This is just a glimpse of how untruthfulness, lack of self control, self deception, a materialist, insensitive thinking turns a decent husband and father into a victim. Did he follow any form of spiritual discipline, he would not be there.

It did not happen to me. My karma was slightly better. Under other circumstances, I might have turned just as bad. It was just enought to comprehend this phenomenon. I learnt that in fact, no error is alien to me. Under the right circumstances, I’d be tempted to kill, to dominate people, to harm people. These things do not happen consciously, or having a clear mind. These things happen through deception, ignorance, and an uncontrolled vital nature. Temptations must be identified, and dealt with. This is the purpose of yama.

Materialist people underestimate Mara. They think: it is some kind of illusion, hallucination, I am free from those. Well, Mara is a being. It exists just as rape, murder, injustice, famine, exploatation exists. Does it help to say it is an illusion, when somone is raped, tortured, killed ? Mara’s minions are there in every soul. They become illusion only after we conquer them, one by one. Until that, they are realities we neglect … lurking in the darkness, waiting for the right opportunity.

I do not want to correct or argue what Mirjana says, just to make it complete by adding: unconscious repression of emotions and thouughts is what is lacking. Conscious repressal is real self control. Most people refuse to see the importance of yama, or any other moral law, just because they are far from realizing their benefits in their personal life. What they see is that those seem to opress their natural desires. That must be wrong … but is it wrong, really ?

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“Sometimes I become angry, frustrated, as someone harms me, or my ego. Adrenalin rushes through my veins, and the thought/picture of me giving him a healthy slap on his face flashes through my mind. You must agree, this must be repressed.”

Yes I certainly agree:-) But hopefully in time we will manage to transform the source of such impulses.

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“Marriage is in fact, a form of celibacy.”

You really can cheer me up!

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“Temptations must be identified, and dealt with.”

Very true. The purpose of Yamas and other limbs as well.

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“I do not want to correct or argue what Mirjana says, just to make it complete by adding…”

And really thank you for that. It is an interesting reading from you again.

Please do not let my disillusioned self have negative effects on your souls.
What I say, it is my view, experience, based on my karma. I really do hope others fare much better than me. :slight_smile:

[quote=Hubert;11256]Certain emotions and thoughts must be repressed. There is no easy way.

Sometimes I become angry, frustrated, as someone harms me, or my ego. Adrenalin rushes through my veins, and the thought/picture of me giving him a healthy slap on his face flashes through my mind. You must agree, this must be repressed.[/quote]

I would like to share something that I am personally working with around my own, numberless thoughts and emotions. I don’t agree that emotions and thoughts must be repressed. This is a mistaken continuation that our emotions and thoughts are the what is the valuable experience of our lives and that they MUST be appropriated action. It is a mistake that many of us make; that because we FEEL or THINK something that we MUST DO something, whether that is acting on these thoughts and emotions without right intention or saying to ourselves, “These thoughts and emotions are unworkable=i am unworkable” and then attempting (and failing) to repress them.

They are simply thoughts and emotions. Have you ever had a permanent thought or emotion? Or have you ever had much success actually permanently repressing a disturbing thought or an emotion? My personal answer to both of these questions is no.

When we create this enormous dilemma for ourselves, that we MUST either repress them or act on them, we are most often trying to avoid our own disturbing feelings underneath this dilemma. We create compelling and justifying emotions, that seem to demand us to act, to free us from our initial disturbing feelings. I am just getting to what those are for me–that is a person’s own lifelong practice. In an effort to avoid the earliest sensations we experience when being harmed or insulted by another, and the resulting adrenalin through our veins, we dissociated into secondary emotions and thoughts; anger, slapping his face, blaming her for the disturbing feelings that arise when seeing her body, it can go on and on…it does go on and on like a runaway train. But stop, and let’s ask ourselves what we are distracting ourselves from. Rather than declaring the underlying feeling that an insult wakes for us as a call to action or something that must be hidden from ourselves and others, stay with it…feel that. This is IT and it is some seriously tender, root-of-our-being stuff here.

I am finding for myself, the only thing we MUST do is be courageous in the face of our tenderest pains and to treat ourselves with loving-kindness when we are experiencing disturbing feelings and thoughts. To witness them, fully witness them, without rushing into action or repression. Obviously this doesn’t feel, umm, pleasant…which is why we have always avoided them in the first place, but we are Yogis now and have a new set of tools to transform ourselves.

Highest regards,

You prove to be as wise as always, dear Nichole. Perhaps this is why I love you so. Wisdom, Sophia, is a feminine aspect of the divinity, as I see it. So when wisdom comes from a woman, I value it doubly, with my intellect, and with my heart. (I do not want to belittle others, but I lack the presence of such a woman in my life … so you are something like a Mother-figure.)

What I have written was to give a vivid picture of the necessity of self control, through yama, or any other moral tenet. How this is done … I guess there is no better way to achieve it than the way you have presented it in your answer.

With warm love and deep respect

For myself, I find that when I am able to remember that the the Divine is omnipresent and therefore is present in the person that I am reacting to “negatively” (whether it is myself or someone else), I am granted with a space/distance that allows me to observe the situation from a different perspective.

Yes, and I’d add this distance does not mean that we do not act, just that we act from a higher awarness, and not from instinctive impulse.

The 4 bhirangas of yoga is all about reaching this ‘higher awareness’ the way into prathayhara.

Hi Nichole. I have not visited this forum for awhile. Glad to be back. Your response above reminded me of a quote which I posted on this site last December while discussing another topic. The quote is: “What you resist persists.” I have never had much success in repressing thoughts or emotions either. But, I have always been able to work through such disturbances after letting them in. This gives me an opportunity to ponder, digest and work through whatever it is, trusting my instincts to lead me in the right direction. Thoughts and emotions are usually catalysts ? and they are the first step in making changes in ourselves and the world around us.

Watching with awareness…witnessing with awareness:)

[QUOTE=Nichole;11262]
…numberless thoughts and emotions.

Rather than declaring the underlying feeling that an insult wakes for us as a call to action or something that must be hidden from ourselves and others, stay with it…feel that. This is IT and it is some seriously tender, root-of-our-being stuff here.

…we are Yogis now and have a new set of tools to transform ourselves.

Highest regards,[/QUOTE]

For all of this discussion that attracts and remains hidden by the fears that people have of their own power and in some sense that of other people, you have clearly brought to light this issue. We are institutioanlly educated to extract behaviour (and more deeply emotional response - remember those little cartoons… 'And what is mister baker feeling now").

Before judgment day there was only peace. then the flood came and washed it all away.

[QUOTE=Nichole;11262]
…numberless thoughts and emotions.

Rather than declaring the underlying feeling that an insult wakes for us as a call to action or something that must be hidden from ourselves and others, stay with it…feel that. This is IT and it is some seriously tender, root-of-our-being stuff here.

…we are Yogis now and have a new set of tools to transform ourselves.

Highest regards,[/QUOTE]

For all of this discussion that attracts and remains hidden by the fears that people have of their own power and in some sense that of other people, you have clearly brought to light this issue. We are institutioanlly educated to extract behaviour (and more deeply emotional response - remember those little cartoons… 'And what is mister baker feeling now").

Before judgment day there was only peace. then the flood came and washed it all away.

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Totally unrelated to my former posts in this thread, finally being able to manage the necessary equanimity, I reflect to the title of this thread, hoping that I can show it in a new light.

Yama niyama indeed can be seen as means for social harmony, but we need to realize, that without social harmony in our lives, there is no inner harmony either. Until there exists a single person whom we do not understand, love, whom we hate or feel enmity towards, we can gain no real insight and we cannot walk the path of the spiritual discipline. How many times, during meditation, the thought and the related feelings towards a person came up, aquiring our full attention ?

We need to realize, that by forcefully removing such thoughts, brooming it under the thick carpet of our consciusness, we just postpone what must be done, to harmonize our relatationship with that person. Otherwise, this unconscious debt will block the necessary amount of psychic energy, or better said of our soul’s life force. Through these, we steal from our wholeness, and withhold the actions what needed for the sake of the society, for the sake of the world.

It is also important to realize, that it is always possible to have a harmonius relationship with someone. If our harmony depends on others, than what value it has ?

Yoga starts with yama and niyama. Yet, few give it the necessary attention. Than they try to meditate, and have difficulties in concentration. Only a content, peaceful, balanced, and strong soul is able to practice the higher stages of meditation. And the best school to aquire these traits, is not the yoga studio, but everyday life. Satya must be observed in our personal relationships. We need to be honest with our partner, our parents, our neighbour. Same with ahimsa. We must train our souls to not allow any agressive thoughts towards our fellow human being.

Those, who are married or have stable relationships, know, how hard is to honestly live according to yama and niyama in a relationship. In a relationship, love must be strong enough to bear the weight of truth. Ahimsa is not only non-violence. My attention was attracted to the fact, that this translation is not a very good one. While the sanskrit ahimsa if translated literally, means non-violence, it’s meaning is deeper and more encompassing. The correct translation would be “to wish for all sentient being’s happiness”. Surley, if we withheld the aid of our love from someone, something, that person, that thing will lack it, it will be less than it could have been. It is, in a way, hurt. You know, it hurts much more to be unnoticed, or neglected by those who we percieve stronger, better than we are. We cherish their strenght, and their goodness, and we desire that through their attention, the golden rays of love are cast on our little selves. Indeed is great the sorrow of a child, of and old man, of a sick man, of a man struggling with a great addiction, when he/she is ignored. This is much greater a suffering than to be physically hurt. And how can we alleviate the pain caused by this indifference ? A few honest words, a true interest in our gaze, our attentive, loving presence … this makes all the difference.
One who just does this once, will feel that his/her soul came alive, and hope, joy and light are born in it. A debt is payed, the world has been made a little better. An obstacle has been surmounted.

Yama and niyama are not neglected by chance. They are neglected, because they deal with the soul. In today’s materialist world, many are not convinced of the very existence of the soul. They say, they are agnostics, but they admit that yoga can adress the material body of man, balancing it, strenghtening it, making it more healthy. And they are right, all these they can reap from a certain part of yoga practice. Only, that the real purpose of yoga is not that, and it never was. Yoga was the means for an uplink to the spiritual realities of the world, right through them, up to the highest power, to the unmanifested God, Isvara.

Yoga, and belief in a spiritual world, cannot be separated. Yoga is the means to ascend to that world. For an agnostic, or materialist person, yoga is meaningless, because such person does not beleive in a spiritual world, or power.
Why do I say belief ? Today, there are those, who only know what they learn or expereince through their senses. Than there are those, who also expereince the suprasensorial. Between these, there are those, whose souls are no longer satisfied with the sensorial world and what it can provide for their souls, and long for answers to basic questions of human existence. Remember, to these questions, no honest, proven answers can be gained by materialist science, only plausible theories of the kind what some people’s soul cannot accept as truth. These people feel homeless in this world, and try to find something eternal, something what is not ever changing and ultimately dead, like the material world. These people are the spiritual seekers, believers that such reality exists.
Yoga is one path for such seekers, but to think, that only true some books, or mental comprehension of some thoughts, following some methods, this path can be walked, is wrong. When the striving for truth is earnest, and relentless, than the aspirants karma will lead to him/her the right books, the right knowledge, the right teacher. When one is ready than one will meet a seer, someone, who is able to expereince the spiritual just as we expereince the sensorial. Such people exist, they always existed. They are not those, who are well known. Those are just their pupils, who have been given the tasks to spread some truths, in ways and means what surpass our ordinary intellect.

Yama and niyama are the best ways to prepare ourselves for a meaningful encounter with a seer. It surely is life changing, so we must prepare for it. Think of the first date with a person whom you have fallen in love with … were’nt you trying to show what is best in you ?
Without similar respect, anguish, and without so strong a longing, this encounter can never happen, or it if happens we will walk by it blindly.

We need to meditate, not some meditation we do not even know what it is. In the beginning we need to meditate on who we are, what kind of personal traits do we have, what we see as lacking in us, what would we desire to be like, how can we be fuller, better human beings in our everyday lives. When sitting down to meditate, trust your fate. The most important problem to meditate on will show itself very soon. Than, we must turn our attention toward it, realize what it is, whence it comes from, what can be done. To try to practice the higher, toughless stages of meditation while we still have other thoughts with strong emotional charge, is actually harmful. It is like a man saying, ok, there rings the firealarm, but I do not get out of my house. It is all an illusion anyway. Than he is struck by the burning down house, and gets seriosuly injured. Than he will be in great pain. I wonder, if the thought of “this is an illusion” will comfort him much.
If he’d follow common sense, he’d get out, than watching his house burning down, he might even had a fruitful meditation on how every material posession is passing, and how valueless is to cling to it. Instead of it, he managed to put himself into a state of which he needs a great amount of time to escape. Indeed, we often cling to our ideas like they are our posession. But most of the time, the cause is not because we really know it’s truth, but because unonsciously, we want it to be true. Here starts real self knowledge … when we start to ask ourselves. Why do I like this thought, why it is so dear to me ? Why can’t I accept the possibility of it being erroneus ? Because if we were to think objectivley, we must admit, that we need to be equally prepared for anything. When thinking has preferences, than it is not objective, it is biased.
Thus, instead of letting thoughts alone in a trial to escape from them, why not we take the courage and analyze them objectivley, and unbiased ? Isn’t this the real svadhyaya ?

AUM…

[QUOTE=Mirjana;11255]I think it is important to relate also to previous sutras that advice us how to purify our mind, so that our thoughts and emotions become harmonized with our actions. Otherwise it can happen that we perform our actions according to Yamas, but we repress our thoughts and emotions.[/QUOTE]

the yamas and niyamas are said to be actually practiced when they naturally become our instinctive habit…

if such practice leads to repression of suppression of our animalistic desires than, it has not been practiced sincerely…only a perfunctory garb.

having said that, obviously it doesn’t become overnight, there is a phase of transformation of mind and nature…

that is why it is said…“Don’t just look good, be good.” (Jagadguru ŚrīKṛpālujī Mahārāj).

as long as we practice things just to get a higher image in society, we’re only fooling ourselves…we should do it, because it is ought be done…

Regards,
Rām Kṛpālu Dās