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#41

[QUOTE=Asuri;48518]I hope the counter-terrorism people see this. Then again, they might just conclude that SD is a delusional psychotic and not worthy of their attention.[/QUOTE]

Why do you think he is a delusional psychotic? He keeps pointing out how those three freakin’ oppressive religions robbed you of your humanity for over 3000 years, and heralds how dharmic teachings could get you back to life!

Use your feelings, something is out of place in Abrahamic religions. The way they have insinuated their belief systems and articulated them according to the symbolic growth of industrial realities has long eluded many of you.

For me, associating Yoga and spirituality with Christianity, Islam, and Judaism is an attempt to sugar-coat their bitter substances.

#42

Why do you think he is a delusional psychotic?

Well for one thing, he said that the ruins at Harappa are on a par with Manhatten. Need I say more?

#43

[QUOTE=Asuri;48524]Well for one thing, he said that the ruins at Harappa are on a par with Manhatten. Need I say more?[/QUOTE]

That doesn’t make him psychotic, lol, but an exaggerator :rolleyes: just like you with that [I]psychotic[/I] statement :wink:

#44

Actually, it is not my exaggeration, it is what scholars have said about the Indus cities. They are like modern cities.

Check this out: http://india.mrdonn.org/indus.html

Homes: Houses were one or two stories high, made of baked brick, with flat roofs, and were just about identical. Each was built around a courtyard, with windows overlooking the courtyard. The outside walls had no windows. Each home had its own private drinking well and its own private bathroom. Clay pipes led from the bathrooms to sewers located under the streets. These sewers drained into nearly rivers and streams. This was a very advanced civilization!

Thanks to modern technology and international rivalry, nearly 1,400 Indus sites (towns!) have now been discovered. That is a very big civilization, large enough to be called an empire, only there is no evidence that these people were governed by emperors who lived in palaces or large estates. Rather, the opposite has been discovered. Some homes are a bit larger than others, but that might be due to a larger family unit.

What else have scientists discovered about this fascinating culture? LOTS! Their towns were laid out in grids everywhere (straight streets, well built homes!) These people were incredible builders! Scientists have found what they think are giant reservoirs for fresh water. They have also found that even the smallest house at the edge of each town was linked to that town’s central drainage system. (Is it possible that they not only drained waste water out, but also had a system to pump fresh water into their homes, similar to modern plumbing? What a neat thought! Who were these people? Remember-these systems were built over 3,500 years ago!)

The above suggests the Indus civilisation to be a very modern one. It shows signs of middle class populations, standardization, city planning and a strong scientific spirit. What is very interesting to note here these cities were built and destroyed 7 times and rebuilt on top of another, and the the oldest one was the most advanced and perfect. It shows no sign of slow growth - they were built immediately just like modern day cities are built.

The fact is skeletons were indeed found in these cities that were highly radioactive and these cities were all of a sudden abandoned, and nobody can yet explain why they were abandoned all of a sudden. The Mahabharata shows us clearly that a huge war took place using weapons of mass destruction. It describes it in explicit detail.

#45

I’m not exaggerating. I think there is good chance that our friend SD is seriously mentally ill. He’s made lots of statements that I think are delusional. Psychotic?..I don’t know so much about that.

#46

[QUOTE=Asuri;48529]I’m not exaggerating. I think there is good chance that our friend SD is seriously mentally ill. He’s made lots of statements that I think are delusional. Psychotic?..I don’t know so much about that.[/QUOTE]

You are lucky I am so polite :slight_smile:

#47

Of course, he does have a political agenda too, and we all know that lying is a natural trait of politicians.

#48

I seem to recall that SD once argued vehemently that the migration from the Indus Valley was a natural occurrence due to the changing course of a river. That was when he was disputing Aryan invasion theory. Now he has a different theory, so apparently the facts have changed.

#49

Nope, I still maintain that the drying up of the Saraswati river, alongside which most of the Indus valley cities were found was the primary cause for the migrations. However, the sudden abandonment of the largest cities found so far like Harrapa and Mohenjadaro where skeletons have been found lying scattered on the streets, some holding hands and some highly radioactive, suggests a nuclear calamity. The fact is Mahabharata describes this calamity in great detail and the deployment of weapons that could kill hundreds of thousands in one go. It is known known that the Mahabharata is a real historical event and according to traditional dating it took place in 3000BCE, coinciding with the Indus valley period. One only has to put two and two together.

#50

From Hindpedia, a very credible and accurate source for Hinduism:

They mention weapons of mass destruction akin to nuclear weapons. For example, the effects of the Agneya Astra when used offensively in the Mahabharata are described as

a blazing shaft possessed of the effulgence of a smokeless fire, and let it off on all sides,…Endued with fiery flames…Meteors flashed down…A thick gloom suddenly shrouded the (Pandava) host. All the points of the compass also were enveloped by that darkness…Inauspicious winds began to blow. The sun himself no longer gave any heat…The very elements seemed to be perturbed…The universe, scorched with heat, seemed to be in a fever…The very waters heated, the creatures residing in that element…seemed to burn. From all the points of the compass, cardinal and subsidiary, from the firmament and the very earth, showers of sharp and fierce arrows fell and issued with the impetuosity of Garuda or the wind…the hostile warriors fell down like trees burnt down by a raging fire. Huge elephants, burnt by that weapon, fell down on the earth all around, uttering fierce cries loud as the rumblings of the clouds…The steeds, O king, and the cars also, burnt by the energy of that weapon, looked, O sire, like the tops of trees burnt in a forest-fire. Thousands of cars fell down on all sides. Indeed, O Bharata, it seemed that the divine lord Agni burnt the (Pandava) host in that battle, like the Samvarta fire consuming everything at the end of the Yuga…Burnt by the energy of Aswatthaman’s weapon, the forms of the slain could not be distinguished.[1][2]
The usage of the Agneya astra by Aswatthaman resulted in the death of a full Akshauhini [218,700] of the Pandava troops. In comparison, the nuclear bomb dropped on

Hiroshima killed 60,000-80,000 people
Nagasaki killed 90,000-166,000 people
They also describe non-lethal weapons such as the Sanmohana astra and the Pramohana astra which could make people lose consciousness [3][4].

http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Origins

The above are clear descriptions of weapons of mass destruction. Is it not ironic that the weapons described in the Mahabharata actually exist today?

#51

I can’t really validate Mahabarata, for once Zecharia Sitchin also claimed same sort of thing that there had been a war in Sodoma and Gomorra, in Israel, among so-called Anunnakis, Nephilims, and sort. He had shown the burst marks on stones as evidence, yet I have not heard any modern scientist went there and invesitigated for fallout traces.

Yes, there is a lot of overlapping evidence, yet far from being precise. It might after all be a hokey attempt lump everything together.

#52

So how much do you want 2 + 2 to be? By the way, I thought the OT was the only scripture that condoned the mass murder of hundreds of thousands.

#53

[QUOTE=thomas;48484]So you’re an atheist who believes in reincarnation?

Doesn’t seem to be consistent.[/QUOTE]

I’m an atheist? Where have I explicitly said that?

By the way, my signature is just an example of a nerdy math joke on religion. It is not indicative of my faith or lack thereof. I have even told you that my signature is the scientific/mathematical/cynical side of me.

By the way Thomas, what are your opinions on homosexuals and atheists? No wait, I already know. [Insert bigoted Christian idiocy against homosexuals and atheists].

#54

[QUOTE=thomas;48485]SD has provided “proof” that convinces himself of reincarnation. I don’t see any reason to believe in this fantasy, and totally depressing concept. He has proof of all his “astral planes” too?[/QUOTE]

Neither do rational people have reason to believe in the depressing religion of Christianity, a religion with an angry and jealous desert god who apparently sends people to a nice warm place if they don’t believe him, with a man born from a virgin, and with doctrines preaching the wickedness of man.

Not to mention: “The Negro has no comprehension of virtue, honesty, truth, gratitude, and principle. The South has to lunch him occasionally, and flog him, now and then, to keep him from [B]blaspheming the Almighty[/B] by his conduct…[B]and color[/B].”

#55

[QUOTE=Asuri;48518]I hope the counter-terrorism people see this. Then again, they might just conclude that SD is a delusional psychotic and not worthy of their attention.[/QUOTE]

Actually, if they are not so dogmatically Western as you, they will see the reason in his statements and agree with him.

So if your opinion, if Abrahamics go around plundering other civilizations, wiping out their peoples for 3 millennia, and subverting their culture, that is not terrorism. But when we Hindus speak out against this oppression, it is terrorism.

You should honestly get a skin color change and practice Christianity, instead of subscribing to Shamkya philosophy. You would fit well with white supremacist idiots. Can I suggest the Arian Brotherhood?

#56

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;48536]Nope, I still maintain that the drying up of the Saraswati river, alongside which most of the Indus valley cities were found was the primary cause for the migrations. However, the sudden abandonment of the largest cities found so far like Harrapa and Mohenjadaro where skeletons have been found lying scattered on the streets, some holding hands and some highly radioactive, suggests a nuclear calamity. The fact is Mahabharata describes this calamity in great detail and the deployment of weapons that could kill hundreds of thousands in one go. It is known known that the Mahabharata is a real historical event and according to traditional dating it took place in 3000BCE, coinciding with the Indus valley period. One only has to put two and two together.[/QUOTE]

Surya Deva I have long seen that article about the “highly radioactive site.” It is an unverified source. The IVC collapsed due to ecological factors, not due to nuclear weapons.

By the way, this “sudden abandonment theory” was used by the idiot Indologists to justify the AIT. Further examinations of he skeletons showed that the people were not killed or maimed or anything like that.

#57

[QUOTE=Asuri;48529]I’m not exaggerating. I think there is good chance that our friend SD is seriously mentally ill. He’s made lots of statements that I think are delusional. Psychotic?..I don’t know so much about that.[/QUOTE]

You [I]are[/I] exaggerating. Would you like the definition of exaggeration shoved up your :D?

“He’s made lots of statements that [B]I think[/B]…” Did you catch that? “Statements that [B]I think[/B]…”

Discussion on Asuri’s - excuse me - Asura’s idiocy ended.

#58

[QUOTE=thomas;48484]So you’re an atheist who believes in reincarnation?

Doesn’t seem to be consistent.[/QUOTE]

Like Sam Harris? LOL :smiley:

#59

Not to mention: “The Negro has no comprehension of virtue, honesty, truth, gratitude, and principle. The South has to lunch him occasionally, and flog him, now and then, to keep him from blaspheming the Almighty by his conduct…and color.”

What’s this supposed to mean? Christianity is for all peoples and all races.

#60

By the way Thomas, what are your opinions on homosexuals and atheists? No wait, I already know. [Insert bigoted Christian idiocy against homosexuals and atheists].

Why don’t you let me answer instead of answering for me.

I think homosexuality is a disorder, but if not practiced is not a sin or immoral behavior.

I think an atheist is someone who denies the existence of God. If a person in good conscience believes that, then that’s what he believes. So my thinking about an atheist is that he doesn’t believe in God.