Inspiring wisdom for everyone

Yoga Discussion General Yoga
#101

I think the transision can happen both peacefully and unpeacefully. Let me assure there is not going to be any Hindu army which is going to form and then attack every nation on earth and convert them to Hinduism. Hindusim has never spread by the sword, wherver it has spread it has spread through peaceful acceptance. Again, 20 million Americans have not been forced to do Yoga. I am making no effort to convert anybody either, in fact if I was, I would be going the wrong way about doing it.

The ideal way it happens is that gradually the world becomes more and more Hindu and the Abrahamic religions accept it and accomodate it. For example, Christians can accomodate by emphasisng Christian gnostic teachings. Muslims can accomodate by looking towards Sufism, and Jews can accomodate by looking at Kabbalah. In this way we can have a global spirituality which everybody can practice. This can happen peacefully and naturally over time. It will happen because science itself will validate spirituality.

The non-ideal way it is going to happen is after the world experiences extreme suffering for the beliefs it does have today. The kind of way of life we have today, largely based on Abrahamic philosophy will lead to an unsustainable future for the planet and struggle for basic things like food and water. This will lead to massive conflict and war, possibly even world wars using WMD and billions could perish. The shock that humanity will receive from this will force it to adopting Hindu ways.

Either way Hinduism will take over at some point during this century. It is inevitable because the Satyuga will return and the authentic knowledge will once again prevail.

#102

What’s a or the Satyuga?

#103

yeah, sometimes it is frustrating as i am in costa rica right now and watch luxury homes/condos being built by people for $2.50 an hour, so I can appreciate where united views could help even out the large disparity in how much money one has.

The reason this is happening is because we are living in a Vaishya(merchant) based society which is one solvely driven by profit for the merchants. In this kind of society a human is no more than a producer and consumer of goods.

We need to be living in a Brahmana(sage) based society where society is solely driven by spiritual values ones that promote the highest personal and social development. In this society everything in society government, economy, education, science and technology is all based on what promotes the highest personal and social development. In such a society power is decentralized because each town in society is self-sufficient, generates its own energy and grows its own food and is self-governed by the people and facilitated by the state.

The link I showed earlier shows how this Hindu way economic system has been recently succesfully applied to a small village in India and produced award winning results. The entire village is now self sufficient, generates its own energy using solar and biogas, grows its own food and the entire community help in all social projects. They have also outlawed alcohol, drugs, cigarettes. The entire community helps each other and shares costs.

There is no reason why we cannot use the Hindu model for the entire world. The current model is simply not sustainable and it is obscene how unequally wealth is distributed in society.

#104

The Satyuga is the age of truth. Hinduism was a religion that existed in the Satyuga and Hindus believe all advanced planets in this universe have a religion like Hinduism(Hence, why it is called the eternal way) However, over time the ages change and we lose our spirituality gradually(lose the connection) The current age is Kali-Yuga which is the age of darkness. Fortunately, because time is cyclic, the Satyuga will return again after the Kaliyuga.

Some believe the Satyuga is eminent today. The new-agers call it the age of Aquireas.

#105

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;35526]I think the transision can happen both peacefully and unpeacefully. Let me assure there is not going to be any Hindu army which is going to form and then attack every nation on earth and convert them to Hinduism. Hindusim has never spread by the sword, wherver it has spread it has spread through peaceful acceptance. Again, 20 million Americans have not been forced to do Yoga. I am making no effort to convert anybody either, in fact if I was, I would be going the wrong way about doing it.

The ideal way it happens is that gradually the world becomes more and more Hindu and the Abrahamic religions accept it and accomodate it. For example, Christians can accomodate by emphasisng Christian gnostic teachings. Muslims can accomodate by looking towards Sufism, and Jews can accomodate by looking at Kabbalah. In this way we can have a global spirituality which everybody can practice. This can happen peacefully and naturally over time. It will happen because science itself will validate spirituality.

The non-ideal way it is going to happen is after the world experiences extreme suffering for the beliefs it does have today. The kind of way of life we have today, largely based on Abrahamic philosophy will lead to an unsustainable future for the planet and struggle for basic things like food and water. This will lead to massive conflict and war, possibly even world wars using WMD and billions could perish. The shock that humanity will receive from this will force it to adopting Hindu ways.

Either way Hinduism will take over at some point during this century. It is inevitable because the Satyuga will return and the authentic knowledge will once again prevail.[/QUOTE]

I didn’t know the Hindu religion had fundamental extremists. You have a scary take on Hinduism.

#106

[QUOTE=Manjushri;35523]It’s a bit crazy assume we can predict the future. I doubt that all the other religions are going anywhere and if they did who’s to say Hinduism isn’t going to disappear with them. I guess it’s good to see that although you attempt to speak truth you also speculate. Which is not truth obviously it’s opinion[/QUOTE]

A Hindu once said that even if all the Hindus were to disappear of the face of the planet and every trace of Hinduism gone, the world will eventually rediscover Hinduism. Just as if all the scientists and science text books were to disappear of the face of the planet, the world will eventually discover all of science.

As Hinduism is a spiritual science it can be discovered independently by anybody anywhere in the universe.

Now in a way this is exactly what has happened in modern times. We have rediscovered Hinduism in modern science. Everything it says has been confirmed. As I mentioned earlier we now have scientific evidence for Yoga and meditation, for reincarnation, for the astral body, for occult powers, for the Hindu metaphysics that all is vibration of energy. Even if we had no record of Hinduism, we would end up with Hinduism.

It is inevitable as we develop scientifically we will become Hindu. On the other hand, Abrahamic religions will disappear because they are at odds with science.

#107

[QUOTE=Manjushri;35530]I didn’t know the Hindu religion had fundamental extremists. You have a scary take on Hinduism.[/QUOTE]

It is ironic that you would say this, considering I just said the absolute opposite in the post you quoted:

Let me assure there is not going to be any Hindu army which is going to form and then attack every nation on earth and convert them to Hinduism. Hindusim has never spread by the sword, wherver it has spread it has spread through peaceful acceptance.

What is so scary? If you have anything to be scared of at this moment is the unsustainable future we are heading into. The collapse of the world economy and wars over food, oil and water.

The problem with people with your take you don’t realise we are already in a hellish world. It can’t get any worse than this.

#108

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;35531]A Hindu once said that even if all the Hindus were to disappear of the face of the planet and every trace of Hinduism gone, the world will eventually rediscover Hinduism. Just as if all the scientists and science text books were to disappear of the face of the planet, the world will eventually discover all of science.

As Hinduism is a spiritual science it can be discovered independently by anybody anywhere in the universe.

Now in a way this is exactly what has happened in modern times. We have rediscovered Hinduism in modern science. Everything it says has been confirmed. As I mentioned earlier we now have scientific evidence for Yoga and meditation, for reincarnation, for the astral body, for occult powers, for the Hindu metaphysics that all is vibration of energy. Even if we had no record of Hinduism, we would end up with Hinduism.

It is inevitable as we develop scientifically we will become Hindu. On the other hand, Abrahamic religions will disappear because they are odds with science.[/QUOTE]

Now that’s speculation. What you are claiming is not truth. It’s speculation.

#109

Nope, it is truth. Sorry I don’t buy your postmodern crap which forces me to say everything is an opinion.

Everything about Hinduism is scientifically backed up. Would you like to see the evidence?

#110

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;35534]Nope, it is truth. Sorry I don’t buy your postmodern crap which forces me to say everything is an opinion.

Everything about Hinduism is scientifically backed up. Would you like to see the evidence?[/QUOTE]

Well I’m sure you have a link to some colorful websites to back up all your quacky claims. But I’ll give your offer of linking me to them a miss thanks.

#111

In other words you have already pre-determined that what I said is quacky and wrong even before seeing the evidence.

You clearly are not Hindu :smiley:

#112

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;35536]In other words you have already pre-determined that what I said is quacky and wrong even before seeing the evidence.

You clearly are not Hindu :D[/QUOTE]

Every religion has websites to back up their claims. If you consider my view ‘crap’ why don’t you used your brain and think for yourself.

#113

Every religion can have a web site to back up their claims. Everybody can make a claim. However, not all claims are valid. You learn this by reviewing the evidence.

I wasn’t actually going to cite from a Hindu web site to back up my claims. You see, you have made all these prejudiced conclusions without even reviewing a single bit of evidence. It was Einstein who said the height of ignorance is forming conclusions without any examination.

If somebody is honest and wants to know the truth they would not be so reluctant to look at evidence.

I am going to pass now myself. It is clear your mind is closed on this subject.

#114

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;35538]Every religion can have a web site to back up their claims. Everybody can make a claim. However, not all claims are valid. You learn this by reviewing the evidence.

I wasn’t actually going to cite from a Hindu web site to back up my claims. You see, you have made all these prejudiced conclusions without even reviewing a single bit of evidence. It was Einstein who said the height of ignorance is forming conclusions without any examination.

If somebody is honest and wants to know the truth they would not be so reluctant to look at evidence.

I am going to pass now myself. It is clear your mind is closed on this subject.[/QUOTE]

My mind is very open thank you very much. I don’t have to agree with your religion to be considered open minded buddy

#115

Nah, you are not open minded otherwise you would look at the evidence, review it, and then respond.

You have formed conclusions without even looking at the evidence. This is not the mark of an open mind.

You can tell yourself all you want you want how open minded you are, but your actions are speaking to the contrary. I must part ways for now.

#116

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;35540]Nah, you are not open minded otherwise you would look at the evidence, review it, and then respond.

You have formed conclusions without even looking at the evidence. This is not the mark of an open mind.

You can tell yourself all you want you want how open minded you are, but your actions are speaking to the contrary. I must part ways for now.[/QUOTE]

Looking at your ‘evidence’ doesn’t make me open minded you idiot. I make me open minded. I’ll be the judge of whether I’m open minded. I don’t need your pissy opinion kid

#117

Man is not the measure of himself. Sorry to break it to you. Not only are you being close minded, you are also being rude, abusive and obnoxious.

You cannot judge yourself as much as you cannot mark your own essays :smiley:

I really am parting ways now. I have nothing to gain from talking to you and you’ve made that clear.

#118

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;35542]Man is not the measure of himself. Sorry to break it to you. Not only are you being close minded, you are also being rude, abusive and obnoxious.

You cannot judge yourself as much as you cannot mark your own essays :smiley:

I really am parting ways now. I have nothing to gain from talking to you and you’ve made that clear.[/QUOTE]

Hey you called my views ‘crap’. Go play on a Hindu forum. This is a Yoga Forum.

#119

It is ironic somebody who is 15 posts old is telling somebody who is 572 posts old what to do on the forum :smiley:

Hindusim and Yoga are pretty much the same thing.

I did not call your views crap. I said I don’t buy your postmodern crap which forces me to accept everything is an opinion. You are forcing that dogma on me and I do not agree with it.

I will not respond to anymore of your posts if you continue to be this obnoxious.

#120

If Hinduism is the one true way and all religions were destroyed and we found it again BUT it was called something else, would it be one and the same?