It seems like kechari could become an addiction?
^^ Some people will turn anything into an obsession/addiction. I have met so many ‘yogis’ that are former drug addicts and simply transfer their dependency issues over to what the think ‘yoga’ is. I find this discussion gross and inappropriate. Just my two cents. Trip on, trippers.
[QUOTE=omshanti;79637]^^ Some people will turn anything into an obsession/addiction. I have met so many ‘yogis’ that are former drug addicts and simply transfer their dependency issues over to what the think ‘yoga’ is. I find this discussion gross and inappropriate. Just my two cents. Trip on, trippers.[/QUOTE]
Then ask that it be removed instead of posting your crappy comments. Admins if you agree with this person feel free to delete this thread.
I have asked administration to look at this thread and let me know if they think it is gross and innapropriate. I have also petitioned them to delete this entire thread if that is their judgement.
I have asked the administration of this site to delete this thread. I have wasted much time trying to give what I have discovered attempting to fill in the missing information on Kechari Mudra only to be misunderstood and maligned by a fool calling themselves omshanti and other usernames on this site.
Am I upset? No. What I am is tired.
Tired of interacting in foolish threads posted by foolishly acting people and interacting with these foolishly acting people and there insane attempts to sound superior and lofty and pretend they are psychic and know all about other people. Such abject silliness, this is all mind turned outwards.
Even my writing this is just mind turned outwards and ego responding to ego this I does not need to continue developing ego by posting on these boards and interacting with other equally foolish ego’s.
So the only thing left to do is “NOT TO DO” Good bye yoga forums this site is full of much foolishness and bad will.
Administration please delete this thread and my account.
Wasn’t Yoga about not insulting (not hurting) ???
[QUOTE=Seeking;79744][B]I[/B] have asked the administration of this site to delete this thread. [B]I[/B] have wasted much time trying to give what [B]I[/B] have discovered attempting to fill in the missing information on Kechari Mudra only to be misunderstood and maligned by a fool calling themselves omshanti and other usernames on this site.
Am [B]I[/B] upset? No. What [B]I[/B] am is tired.
Tired of interacting in foolish threads posted by foolishly acting people and interacting with these foolishly acting people and there insane attempts to sound superior and lofty and pretend they are psychic and know all about other people. Such abject silliness, this is all mind turned outwards.
Even [B]my[/B] writing this is just mind turned outwards and ego responding to ego this [B]I[/B] does not need to continue developing ego by posting on these boards and interacting with other equally foolish ego’s.
So the only thing left to do is “NOT TO DO” Good bye yoga forums this site is full of much foolishness and bad will.
Administration please delete this thread and my account.[/QUOTE]
Seeking, too much “I” man.
But don’t worry, “I” was like that before as well.
So, all “I” can do now, is wishing you a nice and pleasant “Seeking” and hope you’ll find out soon, there is no I, You, Them, He - She, etc, but only WE/US !!!
We should try not to judge others, this is only the ego that will judge other people. But our ego is self created so how can we judge others for what is maya and not their true self?
It is hard as sometimes we mostly respond to our first thoughts entering our head and that comes from the ego most oftenly. This happens to all of us. But if we become aware of how our mind and ego works then we can undo this slowly. Without this awareness we are caught up in maya.
We are all learning and maybe next time we write we think twice before posting.
And isnt it great that yoga can make people stop taking drugs?
Seeking has a bit of an ego problem from what I can see, but then don’t we all? We are perceive reality through the prism of the ego. It is unfortunate that Seeker should leave us, but he is going to find with attitudes like that, he will not find peace in any community 
Although he accuses others of spiritual superiority complexes and having ego, it ironically comes across very loud and clear within him.
Yoga is also about developing patience and forbearance. If we react to the people and the circumstances around us, we develop little in patience and forbearance. In real life, we will have to interact with all kinds of people, it is not as easy as just deleting your account and going to another forum then 
Ideally, we should develop such a state of mind that no matter what circumstances you are put in you can still maintain composure, calm - your yoga.
[QUOTE=Seeking;79744]I have asked the administration of this site to delete this thread. I have wasted much time trying to give what I have discovered attempting to fill in the missing information on Kechari Mudra.[/QUOTE]
I very much enjoy reading about your experiences and progress. I both hope and believe that you are being blessed for the time and effort you spend sharing and helping us with our understanding. I would much rather read a post about someone’s experiences than theory. And you are sharing what I believe is the key to everything.
I don’t understand how someone can conclude that your posts are gross. I find them enlightening. You have inspired me to want Kechari stage 2 even more and so I believe you have been successful at your intended goal.
To help and inspire people on their path to self realization. What is a more productive use of your time? (except of course following your own path)
Seeking,
While I think sticking your tongue inside of your nasal cavity could be unsafe, it’s great of you to share of your experiences. Sailing across the ocean was unsafe for Christopher Columbus and was probably deemed insane at the time, look what he discovered by doing so. Before reading your post, I did not even know doing such a thing was possible, let alone there being benefits to it. I come to this board because I am interested in Yoga and spirituality, and I have to set aside my ego if I’m to progress. Everyone should help each other on this board to progress in their spiritual practices. Why have technology to rapidly communicate if we just spew vitriol to each other? I appreciate the effort you’ve taken to post this thread. Don’t let some who do not agree with you run you off.
Hang around Seeking. You are a valuable and much appreciated resource to those of us who are trying to achieve kechari. Spiritual experiences are so personal and private that the gurus caution us to keep them to ourselves. We all get tangled when we try to write about them. You do a very good job of being objective and descriptive which is much appreciated by we who are Listening
Cutting the tissue is an abomination. It violates the foundationial principle of ahmisa.
Please do not cut the connective tissues. THis is a wrong practice.
The LORD would not design or institue such a thing.
Kechari is a mudra.
WHat is the purpose of the mudras?
Let me help.
They make energetic connections.
DO not cut under your tounge.
There is no need.
Feel around in your mouth ( with your tougne) what do you feel?
I have heard about this of course.
I never went any further than the Shatkarma. I didn’t need to (even though I practiced all of those a [I]lot[/I]).
I wouldn’t go that far when the rising of Kundalini is entirely symptomatic and dependent on a [I]lot[/I] of other factors (as Suhas said) but the main one is not even trying to raise it in the first place imho
If it happens and is meant to, it will…and please forgive my simplicity. It’s just easier this way.
Some time has passed and things have changed for me. I apologize for a previous post in this thread and elsewhere that is not remembered concerning this site and the membership here it was as inaccurate as it was incorrect.
When it comes to the member calling themselves OMShanti however there is nothing to recant nor, will there be any communications with that member.
As far as everyone else in concerned I apologize and do find this site of value, thank you for ignoring my request to have my account deleted Dave.
The request was made while in a poor frame of mind that resulted from sharing the contents of this thread and receiving venomous remarks in return both privately and publicly which is why private messages are turned of for the Seeking Account.
Tongue / Brain connection. Fascinating See link below.
Feel free to ask Questions here or in private you already have my email.
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Thank you Seeking (and others) for your very informing posts.
Qualified minds will always find the way. No gossip or chatting about mudras will help any of you. I find it amusing that so many people react in such an extreme and dramatic way. All of the techniques and technology of yoga is described in detail by the sages and saints of the past. Describing what you see on your road will not get you to your destination or improve your sense of direction. No one can make you feel a feeling that is not already floating on the surface of your subconscious.
It most certainly does help. Either that or the people who have written thanks for sharing to me in private were all liars.
Furthermore it helped me as well to come to terms with what was happening while it was first happening by writing about it.
I have written what I experienced as it happened and wished others would have had the guts to do so as well.
You know at first it started as a private journal but then out of gratitude for those that have shared so much knowledge over the internet and not just topics concerning yoga but many other things I decided to add to the pool of self discovered knowledge available on the internet for others.
Being able to achieve Kechari without following the BAD ADVICE of the Hatha Yoga Pradipika which advises cutting the lingual frenulum of the tongue a little at a time came as quite a surprise to me.
These so called anchient texts of the so called sages are not the end all and be all of Yoga Knowledge and should be taken with a grain of salt until experience shows one otherwise.
Instead I followed the instructions of a contemporary living human being who taught me Talabya and Kechari came from the practices of Kriya he taught to me.
I never started out wanting to practice Kechari at all. It was only after learning it really was a part of Kriya that I even decided to practice Talabya which indeed led to Kechari in a short period of time.
In fact I thought it would take years before it would happen or not at all. It was not until after practicing Kriya then later taking initiation from the Swami that things really started taking off in a highly energized way that caused this mudra to happen in the first place while practicing Kriya.
You may or may not have achieved Kechari Mudra and may or may not have had the strong reaction I did but no one will ever know because you do not share any of your experiences.
It seems to me you have not achieved Kechari and the subject bothers you for some reason otherwise why keep visiting this thread and stirring the pot with mean hearted nastiness?
Seriously feeling a feeling that is not already floating on the surface of your subconscious has nothing to do with anything.
It appears to me you lack experiential first hand knowledge and rely on psychology books and texts written by the long dead that wrote flawed information and bad advice and instructions more than on first hand personal experience and that is why you come across dissatisfied and bitter.
Evangelizing the writers and the writings of the past is no substitute for first hand direct experience why not go get some and share it with the rest of us?
Oh but thats right you do not believe it can help anyone only the writings of the past and the far removed long dead people of the past can.
Careful this is the path or religious belief.
[QUOTE=omshanti;83716]Qualified minds will always find the way. No gossip or chatting about mudras will help any of you. I find it amusing that so many people react in such an extreme and dramatic way. All of the techniques and technology of yoga is described in detail by the sages and saints of the past. Describing what you see on your road will not get you to your destination or improve your sense of direction. No one can make you feel a feeling that is not already floating on the surface of your subconscious.[/QUOTE]