A thread is not yours because you start it, and I don’t need to practice kundalini yoga in order to understand Kundalini Shakti, Mahayoga, Advaita, or any other teaching.
And whereas I was not going after you, who I don’t know at all, but rather the things you are speaking on, you have weighed in on me, with yet another assumption, as a small fish, not a serious seeker, and not ready for the wisdom you have blessed us all with.
I will leave it at that, and you to your precious board.
[QUOTE=Triston;85290]A thread is not yours because you start it, and I don’t need to practice kundalini yoga in order to understand Kundalini Shakti, Mahayoga, Advaita, or any other teaching. And whereas I was not going after you, who I don’t know at all, but rather the things you are speaking on, you have weighed in on me, with yet another assumption, as a small fish, not a serious seeker, and not ready for the wisdom you have blessed us all with. I will leave it at that, and you to your precious board[/QUOTE]
I completely disagree with everything you wrote! [B]You do have to study and practice Kundalini Yoga to understand it![/B]
You also have to study Jesus’ teachings to know that he was a Yogi. I have spent a lot of time reading, practicing, and contemplating what I write on this board. You come along and make asinine comments way above your knowledge base on a subject matter that is extremely dear to me. That is the problem I have with your posts. I am speaking from experience and you are speaking from ignorance. I am not making any assumptions. Your posts have shown that you do not take this subject matter seriously. And you talk a bunch of nonsense.
I also noticed that once again you failed to answer any of my questions. And the reason that you don’t answer my questions is because it would reveal the truth in everything I say.
- It is ok to completely disagree.
- I’m not going to walk into your questions that are basically insisting how can you say x (alleged teachings of Jesus) is not the same as y (your understanding of Kundalini Yoga allegedly developed/brought back by Babaji)
It’s obvious that you very much want x to be the same as y, but it doesn’t mean they are. - Sorry but you do not have to practice the Kundalini Yoga system you are following in order to understand Truth (experientially or intellectually) - or in order to understand Kundalini unfolding (ie. not Babaji’s system).
I have been involved in Mahayoga for quite a while now, where Kundalini has fully awakened and is fully active.
In this system, there is no need to do various practices.
Once Shaktipat has been received, and Kundalini is awakened through Grace, one only sits quietly every day and Shakti Ma handles all yogas spontaneously according to the needs of the aspirant.
It is extremely clear that the aspirant is not the Doer - and the only instructions are to surrender to Shakti Ma and allow Her to do what is necessary - which includes kriyas, asanas, mantras, etc.
I have seen people like you time again who mean well, but who are way to identified/clinging/passionate with the externals - the teachings, the lineage, the precious practices, the feeling of being more pure or better - that has clearly come through in our exchange.
It can feel like you’re soaring - and in one sense you might be - but you can also be stuck without realizing it.
You should keep an open mind and not be so quick to judge where people are coming from and where they are at on their journey.
I admit I jumped in unasked for and challenged some of your assertions.
But it was the assertions - not you personally.
What can you and I really know?
We can know that we are in truth Pure Awareness - that there is a force in us/everywhere that we can call Shakti or Spirit or whatever - and that when awakened, will go through a process of purification and eventually merging and settling in the Heart Center.
We can attain Self-Realization.
But we can’t know if Jesus was real. We can’t know if the narrative is real - or if it is, what parts are accurate and what parts not.
We can’t know if he was Realized - and same goes for Babaji (the alleged founder of Kriya Yoga)
We also can’t know if Yogananda or the others you mentioned were Realized.
The reason being, we can only truly know our own direct experience.
You can have a strong sense of it, based on available teachings, stories, experiences of others, your own experiences, etc
But you can’t know it for sure.
Do you disagree?
If so, please explain - and try to refrain from empty personal jabs.
[QUOTE=Triston;85292]1) It is ok to completely disagree.
2) I’m not going to walk into your questions that are basically insisting how can you say x (alleged teachings of Jesus) is not the same as y (your understanding of Kundalini Yoga allegedly developed/brought back by Babaji)
It’s obvious that you very much want x to be the same as y, but it doesn’t mean they are.
3) Sorry but you do not have to practice the Kundalini Yoga system you are following in order to understand Truth (experientially or intellectually) - or in order to understand Kundalini unfolding (ie. not Babaji’s system).
I have been involved in Mahayoga for quite a while now, where Kundalini has fully awakened and is fully active.
In this system, there is no need to do various practices.
Once Shaktipat has been received, and Kundalini is awakened through Grace, one only sits quietly every day and Shakti Ma handles all yogas spontaneously according to the needs of the aspirant.
It is extremely clear that the aspirant is not the Doer - and the only instructions are to surrender to Shakti Ma and allow Her to do what is necessary - which includes kriyas, asanas, mantras, etc.
I have seen people like you time again who mean well, but who are way to identified/clinging/passionate with the externals - the teachings, the lineage, the precious practices, the feeling of being more pure or better - that has clearly come through in our exchange.
It can feel like you’re soaring - and in one sense you might be - but you can also be stuck without realizing it.
You should keep an open mind and not be so quick to judge where people are coming from and where they are at on their journey.
I admit I jumped in unasked for and challenged some of your assertions.
But it was the assertions - not you personally.
What can you and I really know?
We can know that we are in truth Pure Awareness - that there is a force in us/everywhere that we can call Shakti or Spirit or whatever - and that when awakened, will go through a process of purification and eventually merging and settling in the Heart Center.
We can attain Self-Realization.
But we can’t know if Jesus was real. We can’t know if the narrative is real - or if it is, what parts are accurate and what parts not.
We can’t know if he was Realized - and same goes for Babaji (the alleged founder of Kriya Yoga)
We also can’t know if Yogananda or the others you mentioned were Realized.
The reason being, we can only truly know our own direct experience.
You can have a strong sense of it, based on available teachings, stories, experiences of others, your own experiences, etc
But you can’t know it for sure.
Do you disagree?
If so, please explain - and try to refrain from empty personal jabs.[/QUOTE]
Another post full of nonsense! The reason I don’t want you posting on my board is because you are ignorant about this subject! It would be one thing if you were asking questions or seeking knowledge but you try to portray yourself as an expert when it is obvious that you are completely clueless!
Jesus still exists today! Jesus said Before Abraham was I am! - John 8:58. You can go into deep Samadhi and commune with him which is what Yogananda wrote he did on a frequent basis while he was writing the book The Second Coming Of Christ. All knowledge is available in deep states of Samadhi. Realized masters can go into Samadhi at will once their Kechari reaches the Amrita.
You would know this if you were a serious spiritual seeker but you are not! This is the most important subject of all and it is extremely disrespectful and the height of ignorance for you to post nonsense like you doubt Jesus was self realized or it would be better if his teachings didn’t survive.
Imagine for a few moments that you are me. I am having experiences that I was taught was impossible in my formal education. And the reason I am having these experiences is because I did a few breathing exercises in a book from a Yogi. This Yogi says this is the purpose of why we are here. These exercises allow you to transcend the mind (what you are not) and experience what you truly are.
He also says that this is exactly what Jesus taught and then proceeds to explain Jesus’ teachings line by line in a manner that just reading it makes your heart expand and envelop you with a feeling of such bliss that it is indescribable. Of course that makes me want to do the exercises even more. And then even more powerful experiences start happening.
Jesus’ himself describes this feeling better than I ever could - from John 8:19
19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father:[B] if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also[/B]. (Jesus had reached Nirvikalpa Samadhi)
20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: [B]ye are of this world; I am not of this world[/B]. (You still believe you are your ego and mind ? I have transcended the mind)
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (you will die with your body consciousness if you do not follow my teachings)
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
28 Then said Jesus unto them, [B]When ye have lifted up the Son of man[/B], (when you raise your Kundalini and obtain your Christ Consciousness) then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
29 And he that sent me is with me: [B]the Father hath not left me alone[/B]; (again he is in the state of Nirvikalpa Samadhi) for I do always those things that please him.
30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
31 [B]Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;[/B]
32 [B]AND YE SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE[/B]. (You too will obtain your Christ Consciousness)
33 They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, [B]Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin[/B].
35 [B]And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.[/B]
36 [B]If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed[/B]. (Body consciousness is sin, your Christ Consciousness is waiting for you to unlock it)
Now what do you think I think about you when you make idiotic statements like you doubt Jesus was self realized or that it would be better if his teachings didn’t exist? You’ve jumped the shark:
What are you going to tell us next? That The Buddha wasn’t enlightened and it would be better if his teachings didn’t survive? I had you pegged after I read the first sentence of your first post! Remember that back when your name was Anuman?
Originally Posted by Anuman
umunhum:
Can I be honest here?
Apparently you can’t. Before this latest series of posts anybody with a modicum of working neurons could see through you. With your continued posting, you’ve lowered the bar to the point where now anybody that can read knows that you are a blowhard! Go away!
You’re right.
I will go away with head hung low now.
Carry on.
You are GOD! This is what Jesus taught. Everybody likes adventures but what is the fun in them if you know how everything will turn out? It takes away the excitement of the experience. A good movie gets you so engrossed with the story that it takes you on an emotional adventure and you forget about your life for awhile. If the acting or the story is not believable, what is the point of watching the movie? And the best movies are like the movie Shawshank Redemption where the protagonist overcomes what seems like insurmountable difficulties and comes out victorious. Your life is like a good movie.
You got so bored with getting everything that you want so you decided to play a game with yourself. You placed yourself into a body that restricts your knowledge of what you truly are. As long as the electricity of the body flows through the Reptilian Brain known as the Medulla Oblongata and Pons, you will think that you are your life situation. The way out of this “game” is to direct the electricity of the body so it doesn’t flow through the Brainstem so you transcend the Mind. Once the electricity flows directly underneath the Pituitary Gland it starts vibrating. This causes the Pineal Gland to start vibrating and then the Amrita, Ayahuasca, DMT, or Fountain of Youth starts flowing. This Nectar immediately shuts down the mind and the Third Eye starts awakening.
Unlike the mind, The Third Eye has the capability to use 100% of your brain. With this capability comes the understanding that YOU ARE GOD! You are then no longer a slave to the mind because you realize how futile it is to try to satiate the desires of the mind. The mind comes with the body and is a desire creating factory that will create an infinite amount of desires. And all of these desires are nothing more than wanting to experience an electricity touching one of your sensory receptors. The entire charade is similar to a dog chasing its tail. What is the point? As GOD you can create entire worlds of your own!
You should not feel guilty about the pleasures you seek but you should come to the understanding that they are a pittance relative to what enlightenment has to offer. By pleasing the mind, you are only getting a small slice of the bliss that is available to you. This is what Jesus meant when he said that the Kingdom of Heaven is within you – it is not outside of you.
As long as you remain in the body you are limited to what you can do. As Jesus said in Matthew 11:11:
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he
John the Baptist was Jesus’ Guru in Jesus’ prior incarnation as Elijah and Elisha respectively (1 Kings 19). Just like Jesus at the behest of The Divine, John took on another body. When an enlightened soul takes on a physical body, it falls from grace. It takes on some of the Karma of family and culture that it is born into. This Karma creates a separation of the soul’s knowing that it is GOD! The soul must reopen its Chakras and clear the Karma to reach enlightenment again.
As long as you are in the body, you cannot access your full potential. This is why according to Dr David Hawkins about 50% of all realized yogis leave the body when they become enlightened. They would rather experience the playground of Heaven than fool around with the body. This is why Ramakrishna said that when I’m in the body I feel like a fish trapped in a bucket and when I’m in Samadhi I feel like someone dumped the bucket into the Ganges. Some great masters take pity on us and endure the limits of the body to teach us the path to enlightenment. When man loses the knowledge of the path to The Divine, The Divine sends down a prophet to help the righteous rediscover it.
This is why Jesus is so great! Jesus has already done twice what you and I have yet to do once.
This is the day we celebrate that many years ago Jesus was offered a pardon if he would disavow his teachings. This is the day The Great Yogi Jesus The Christ showed the world that his teachings were far more important than his physical body. And to the day when people once again discover the real teachings of Jesus The Christ.
May everyone be blessed with Health, Happiness, Peace, Prosperity, and the Knowledge to the Path to The Divine! May everyone be guided by the Light and the Love within them! Namaste
I am currently reading The Nag Hammadi Scriptures and it is not an easy read. It is a delight to read Jesus’ teachings but with pages, lines, and words missing on top of everything being cloaked in parables and metaphors, it is a challenge to decipher the meaning behind the teachings. When I first started reading Lahiri Mahasaya’s 108 teachings:
http://www.sanskritclassics.com/advent.htm
I noticed that several of the his sayings spoke directly about Khechari and thought Kechari must be important. I notice that when I read Jesus’ teachings in the Gospel of Thomas that he keeps talking about making the two one:
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html
#22 Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, “[B]When you make the two one[/B], and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; [B]then will you enter the kingdom[/B].”#48 Jesus said, “[B]If two make peace with each other[/B] in this one house, they will say to the mountain, ‘Move Away,’ and it will move away.”
#106 Jesus said, “[B]When you make the two one, you will become the sons of man[/B], and when you say, ‘Mountain, move away,’ it will move away.”
As I wrote earlier, when Jesus is talking about making the two one, he is referring to balancing the Nadis (Ida and Pingala) so the prana travels up the Sushumna. I am extremely confident that when Jesus speaks of The Bridal Chamber that he is referring to the Nasal Pharynx area. This is where the union of male and female takes place. I am uncertain if he was referring to the Nadis or Kechari itself as the union. The Ida Nadi is called the lunar or female force in the body (dominate when the left nostril is flowing crosses and powers the right part of the brain - Sympathetic Nervous System) and the Pingala Nadi is called the solar or male force in the body (dominate when right nostril is flowing and powers the left side of the brain - Parasympathetic Nervous System). So Jesus’ metaphor about making the male and the female one could be about balancing the Nadis or about putting your tongue (phallus) up your Nasal Pharynx (yoni). Kechari is instrumental in both interpretations.
Satyananda refers to these as the two opposite poles of energy in the physical body in this video starting at 10:30:
As I’ve stated many times, when you balance these two nadis and then practice Maha Bandha, your Kundalini turns on and the prana starts moving up the Sushumna. Keeping these Nadis balanced is essential in clearing up the Sushumna so the Chakras open and the Kundalini rises.
Because balancing these two poles of energy is so important, it is probably a good idea to have some understanding about how the nervous system works in the human body. (Taken largely from Wikipedia) Our nervous system consists of two main parts, the Central Nervous System and the Peripheral Nervous System. The Central Nervous System is the brain and the spinal cord or in yoga parlance, the Sushumna.
The Peripheral Nervous System is made up of two parts containing the Autonomic and Somatic Nervous Systems. The Somatic Nervous System or Voluntary Nervous System is associated with the voluntary control of the body movements via skeletal muscles. The Autonomic Nervous System is further broken into three main sub-systems: The Parasympathetic nervous system, Sympathetic nervous system and the Enteric nervous system. The Enteric nervous system is responsible for digestion and so really doesn’t concern us from a yogic standpoint.
The Sympathetic and Parasympathetic Nervous systems are what is referred to in Yoga parlance as the Ida and Pingala Nadis. The Sympathetic Nervous System primes the body for action known as the Fight and Flight response. This keeps the energy and blood circulating to the skeletal muscles. The Parasympathetic Nervous System is for rest-and-digest" or "feed and breed. This keeps the energy and blood concentrated near the organs.
Sympathetic and Parasympathetic divisions typically function in opposition to each other. But this opposition is better termed complementary in nature rather than antagonistic. For an analogy, one may think of the Sympathetic division as the accelerator and the Parasympathetic division as the brake. The Sympathetic division typically functions in actions requiring quick responses. The Parasympathetic division functions with actions that do not require immediate reaction.
The Sympathetic Nervous System:
Promotes a “fight or flight” response, corresponds with arousal and energy generation, and inhibits digestion
Diverts blood flow away from the gastro-intestinal (GI) tract and skin via vasoconstriction
Blood flow to skeletal muscles and the lungs is enhanced (by as much as 1200% in the case of skeletal muscles)
Dilates bronchioles of the lung, which allows for greater alveolar oxygen exchange
Increases heart rate and the contractility of cardiac cells, thereby providing a mechanism for enhanced blood flow to skeletal muscles
Dilates pupils and relaxes the ciliary muscle to the lens, allowing more light to enter the eye and far vision
Provides vasodilation for the coronary vessels of the heart
Constricts all the intestinal sphincters and the urinary sphincter
Inhibits peristalsis
Stimulates orgasm
NOTE you might have to hold down on the control button and the + buttion at the same time on your keyboard to enlarge the diagram to see it clearly - hold the Control button (Ctrl) and the - button to return to normal font
Notice that the Sympathetic Nervous System originates from the left side of the Sushmna. It flows into the left nostril ultimately crossing and powering the right side of the Brain.
The Parasympathetic Nervous System:
Promotes a “rest and digest or “feed and breed”” response, promotes calming of the nerves return to regular function, and enhances digestion
The parasympathetic nerves dilate blood vessels leading to the GI tract, increasing blood flow (this is important following the consumption of food, due to the greater metabolic demands placed on the body by the gut)
The parasympathetic nervous system can also constrict the bronchiolar diameter when the need for oxygen has diminished
Dedicated cardiac branches of the vagus and thoracic spinal accessory nerves impart parasympathetic control of the heart
During accomodation, the parasympathetic nervous system causes constriction of the pupil and contraction of the ciliary muscle to the lens, allowing for closer vision
The parasympathetic nervous system stimulates salivary gland secretion, and accelerates peristalsis, mediating digestion of food and, indirectly, the absorption of nutrients
The PNS is also involved in the erection of genital tissues via the pelvic splanchnic nerves 2?4.
The PNS is responsible for stimulating sexual arousal
Notice that parts of the Parasympathetic Nervous System flow directly into the Medulla Oblongata and the Pons. (It is not labeled as such on the Parasympathetic diagram but is on the Sympathetic diagram) I am extremely confident that the movement of the diaphragm powers up part of the Medulla Oblongata through the Cranial Nerve X (Vagus Nerve ? you were right Avatar186). This is responsible for our time based awareness. A baby that is still in its mothers womb and hasn’t been given the ?gift? of breath yet is pure consciousness. It doesn’t think about what it is going to do tomorrow or what happened yesterday. I wrote about this many posts ago:
[QUOTE=umunhum;78821]I feel as if the mind is powered by the energy created by the diaphragm’s movements. How that is possible is beyond me. I don’t have a good understanding of how we are wired but I suspect the answer lies there.[/QUOTE]
Notice that information from each of the 5 senses and organs is going to The Mind (Medulla Oblongata and Pons) from two different sources, the pathways of both the Sympathetic and Parasympathetic systems. In the same way that a sound wave will hit the two ears at different times allowing your mind to determine where the sound originated from, these signals have to be reconciled in the mind and since they come in at slightly different time periods and possibly different voltages, they cause vibration or thought. The phrase ?Be Still and Know That I Am GOD? comes to mind again. The Third Eye (Ajna Chakra) does not utilize these systems to perceive the world.
I recently finished reading The Collected works of Sri Ramana Maharshi and one of Ramana’s repeated themes is if you control the breath, you control the mind. I know my thinking process completely changed when my Kundalini turned on and the breath stopped. Time based reality is lost. Ramana says that you should sit in the breathless state focusing on your Anahata Chakra recognizing that that is you and you are before the mind separating the knot the binds the consciousness with the body. I like meditating on the heart center. I also like meditating flipping back and forth from Ajna to Anahata and then both at the same time. This is Jnana Yoga though and I identify more with Kundalini Yoga.
According to Satyananda, these two poles of energy rotate their dominance every 90 minutes to two hours according to the positioning of the sun and the moon. They both bring about body consciousness regardless which one of them is dominate. You need to make the two one to force the energy to travel up the Sushumna.
The Sushumna could be thought of as a clogged pipe and the prana is what clears it. Unfortunately for most people, these poles of energy are only balanced for a minute or two when the poles switch dominance and so very little spiritual progress is made without performing yogic exercises to keep them balanced. This is why Yogananda wrote that one Kriya Breath done properly gives the equivalent of a years worth of spiritual growth of a normal person.
As Jesus said in the Gospel of Thomas:
#24 His disciples said to him, "Show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it."
He said to them, “Whoever has ears, let him hear. There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness.”
As long as our Sushumna is clogged, the energy cannot make it to the Third Eye (Ajna Chakra) and we live in darkness (Body Consciousness). I have read that the Third Eye literally turns on just like a light when it receives the proper energy from the Sushumna. As I’ve written before, I believe when the lower Chakras open enough energy will be supplied to the tongue to bust through the Tenth Gate and allow you to reach the Amrita. I believe the Amrita anesthetizes the Brainstem and the Third Eye opens. In order to turn on your Kundalini through Kriya practices, the diaphragm must be stilled. I believe opening up the Third Eye is similar in that all electricity flowing to the mind must be shut down.
It is extremely easy to balance your Nadis after you reach Kechari Stage 3. You just stick your tongue up the flowing nostril sealing it and force the air to flow through the closed nostril until it opens. My Nasal Pharynx area has changed dramatically in the last few months. When I first started entering the Turbinate areas, it felt like my tongue had to go up the pharynx, then make a 90 degree turn to enter the Turbinate area, and then another 90 degree turn to touch the Tenth Gate. Since my Turbinate areas have completely dilated, it feels like my tongue just goes straight up to touch the Tenth Gate.
After you balance your Nadis, you have to pick a nostril to stick your tongue in to touch the Tenth Gate. If you keep your tongue resting on the Nasal Septum (secret spot), the electricity does not flow as intense as it does when you touch the Tenth Gate. The book Swara Yoga says to try to keep the lunar force open during the day and the solar force open during the night. And so during the day after you balance your Nadis, keep the tongue in the Turbinate area of the right nostril and visa versa at night. That said you have to check every so often that your Nadis are balanced because the flap below your tongue could open up. The challenge that I have is that after a few minutes of touching the Tenth Gate with the tongue when my Nadis are balanced, the sensitivity is so intense that it makes me withdraw my tongue.
Then you get involved in doing other things and so throughout the day, I forget to keep my tongue up there. I need to buy a watch that beeps every 15 minutes to remind me to check my Nadis and keep the tongue in the appropriate nostril.
According to the Gnostics, Mary Magdelene was Jesus’ wife and he kissed her on the mouth quite frequently in front of his other disciples. She was not the prostitute Jesus famously saved by his ?let him without sin cast the first stone? speech. Mary came from a very well to do family and was actually Jesus’ benefactor and his most advanced disciple. If indeed she was his wife that makes a lot of sense. Ramakrishna’s wife also became enlightened because she spent so much time in his presence with her aura taking on the characteristics of his aura due to their close proximity. All 12 of Jesus’ historical disciples were married. Of course the Catholic Church could not tell the truth about Mary because this makes one really question the policy of not letting their priest marry and so they denigrated her. I have already written about my dismay over traditional Christian teachings and so no sense in beating a dead horse.
My Nauli has improved quite dramatically over the last month or so. I am developing a mind muscle connection that I lacked and am able to move the muscles in a different way. Several times I have gotten quite sore because I was too aggressive in using the muscles in a way they have never been used before. I had to take a couple of days off from pranayama and just meditate because of this. I’ve noticed that every time I practice Nauli, I defecate right afterward. Anything in my intestines gets cleared out. And I mean I am as clean as a whistle. I have read that Nauli massages the organs including the heart and heals (corrects, prevents) all diseases of the stomach and lower intestines. I have also read that over 90% of all the immune system’s work is done in the intestines. Now I don’t know how they come about that figure but suffice to say keeping the intestines clean is extremely important. You have all kinds of things living in you waiting for you to eat something so they can eat too. And so basically what I’m saying is that I think everyone should learn how to perform Nauli not only to open their Manipura Chakra but for their overall health as well!
I also think that Oil Pulling is extremely important. The eyes are the window to the soul and the mouth is the window to the body. Dental health is directly related to heart health. The Amrita is absorbed and enters the bloodstream directly under the tongue. You have colonies of bacteria and viruses living in your mouth waiting for you to eat something because they get to eat too. After these colonies reach a critical mass they enter the bloodstream underneath the tongue and look for other places in the body to live. Oil Pulling gets rid of these colonies of bacteria and viruses. I read a story about an oncologist (cancer doctor) that would not work on any patient that had a root canal until it was completely removed. (root canals have dead space in them that your immune system cannot get to ? the perfect place for viruses and bacteria to make a home) He did an experiment where he took fragments of a root canal from a patient that had cancer and surgically transplanted it into a rabbits mouth. All 30 rabbits that he did this to developed the very cancer that the donor patient had contracted. Another study did the same thing with heart attack patients with similar results, the rabbits had a heart attack within two weeks. And so basically what I’m saying is for your health, I think it is important to incorporate these two yoga techniques into your daily life. At least practice when you feel a sickness coming on. They both make you feel terrific after you do them and both should be done first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Here is a link to information about oil pulling. You can learn how to do it in under 5 minutes. I personally use coconut oil.
I have also noticed that when I don’t eat at night that the next morning’s practice is a lot more intense. When there is no food in your system, the prana flows to where you want it to go. I have already lost over 10 pounds since going vegetarian and am somewhat conflicted by this knowledge as I’ve been thin my whole life. As Yogananda wrote in The Second Coming of Christ, true recognition of the Sabbath requires that you don’t work the body including digestion which would imply fasting every Sunday. I have decided to only eat fruit when I get hungry after 8 pm as I want to make my Sadhana that starts at 4:30 the next morning as effective as possible.
I found this little gem in the Gheranda Samhita by Swami Niranjanananda Saraswati (Satyananda’s foremost Disciple) page 318:
When the upper cavity of the palate is sealed by khechari mudra, the bindu or semen cannot be lost even if one embraces a beautiful woman. Even when there is movement of the bindu and it enters the genitals, it is seized by closing the perineum and taken upward. With the tongue directed upwards the knower of yoga drinks the fluid of the moon.
As I’ve written before, when I have an orgasm with my tongue pressing against the Tenth Gate sealing off one of the nostril’s turbinate areas, I feel the orgasm taking place right at the Tenth Gate. There are muscle spasms in my penis but no ejaculation takes place. This causes the entire Turbinate area including my Nasal Septum to become extremely sensitive and I have to lower my tongue back into my mouth.
I hope somebody finds value in my ramblings.
This thread seems to turn into a lecture instead of people freely expressing their thoughts on the question “[I]am I suppose to continue doing spinal breathing (Kriyas) or the 20 Kriyas in Satyananda’s book or should I just spend the time meditating in the breathless state?[/I]”.
I think its time to move the offtopic matter into seperate threads.
First things first, I erroneously wrote that the Sympathetic Nervous System flows into the left nostril and the Parasympathetic Nervous System flows into the right nostril. It is the exact opposite. There is so much misinformation out there and I feel deeply ashamed for contributing to it. I just learned about this and copied a website that had the wrong information.
What contributed to my confusion was reading on Wikipedia that the Parasympathetic Nervous System was responsible for the feed and breed response. I distinctly remember Satyananda saying in a Satsang that it is best to have the right nostril flowing during sex and so I thought the right nostril was the Parasympathetic Nervous System. After realizing my mistake I went back and read what Satyananda said and he said the male should have the right nostril flowing and the female should have the left nostril flowing during sex. At first blush I thought that seems boring that the man is in the Fight or Flight mode (active) and the female is in the Rest and Digest (Feed and Breed) mode (passive) but the polarity is what is important.
From a yogic standpoint, this is not that important because when either Nadi is dominant, it brings about body consciousness. Both Nadis must be balanced for spiritual growth to take place. But for the average Joe who is just living his life, you will find that it is better to eat a big meal when the left nostril is flowing and do intense physical activity when the right nostril is flowing.
While surfing the net I found this bit of wisdom:
Yoga texts, both ancient and modern, tell us that the two nostrils have different energy potentials - [B]the left nostril gives the incoming air a negative charge as it enters the body while the right nostril gives it a positive charge. [/B]
Energy passing through the right nostril is said to travel in the “solar” channel, pingala. Energy passing through the left nostril is described as traveling along a lunar channel, ida. Sun and moon, male and female, active and receptive, rational and intuitive, contracting and relaxing, hot and cool, rigid and fluid—these and other pairs of opposites are captured in the archetypes of the two channels of breath.
I’ve read many times the body runs a little hotter when the right nostril is flowing. This made me pull out my Swara Yoga book to see if I missed this as this is news to me and I found a few more interesting pieces of information:
From Swara Yoga by Swami Muktibodhananda (Satyananda’s disciple) Page 19:
Swara yoga considers the body as a living magnet. The head is the positive pole and the feet are the negative pole. The energy currents circulate specifically in the region of the spinal column, the base of the spine being the negative pole and the top the positive. [B] This magnetic field creates a constant flow of energies between the two poles in an attempt to equalize the energy circuits.[/B]
Remember when Jesus said you have to make the above like the below? (Gospel of Thomas #22)
From Swara Yoga Page 20:
The presence of positive and negative ions in the system ultimately affects the entire body mechanism. They influence the nervous system, rate of respiration, digestion and regulation of the endocrine system, which in turn influences the way we think and respond to certain situations in life. Therefore, the absorption of positive and negative ions in the air we breathe is an important function of the respiratory system.
The book says you can’t equate negative ions in the air to the negative charge the nostril puts on the incoming prana but this makes me question if living right above the ocean where the waves crash on the rocks below somehow aided in my awakening providing an environment rich in negative ions. Fresh mountain air is also full of negative ions.
From Swara Yoga Page 24:
Swara yoga explains that the two major energy circuits, Ida and Pingala, can be regulated and controlled by means of the breath. If these currents are not flowing properly, it becomes quite evident in the breath. [B]Electro-nasographic research has shown charges of electrical potential emitted from the nasal mucous membrane and these charges are generally unequal. It is believed that these charges alter in relation to one’s psychophysiological state.[/B] In direct connection with swara yoga, we can say there seems to be a relationship between the air passing through the left nostril and electromagnetic currents passing along the left side of the vertebral column and conversely, the relationship between breathing through the right nostril and electromagnetic currents passing along the right side of the vertebral column. This is very important in Swara yoga because Ida, the negative channel, emanates and terminates on the left side, and Pingala, the positive channel, emanates and terminates on the right side . [B]So if there is disturbance in the rhythm or cycles of the breath, there is likely to be some imbalance in the whole body system.[/B]
When you reach the breathless state and the prana starts coming from the Muladhara Chakra instead of the incoming air, these systems get powered down. This explains why I was so insistent with Suhas saying my mind keeps stopping every time my breath stops. The prana originating from the Muladhara wouldn’t have the polarity of the prana coming from whichever nostril is currently open thus less vibration and thought. The electricity coming in from the senses and the internal organs are then the only thing powering up the mind.
From Swara Yoga Page 26:
At the highest and most subtle level of vibration, energy manifests as pure consciousness. As the rate of vibration decreases, it appears to be pure energy, and finally it solidifies into matter. In the reverse order, matter can be transformed into energy, and energy into consciousness.
[B]The mind is considered as a form of matter which operates at a higher energy level or rate of vibration. The more mind is absorbed in the physical world, the grosser it becomes and the less the consciousness or awareness can function.[/B]
Be still and know that I am GOD!
From Swara Yoga Page 27:
Matter, energy and consciousness are convertible and reconvertible. This is the basic principle of tantra and modern science. Physics defines matter as a combination of trillions of particles, molecules, atoms and subatoms. The difference between each mass is in the arrangement and vibration of the particles. If you change these factors, the mass also changes form.
For example, in a block of ice the particles are closely packed together and vibrate slowly. If you heat the ice, it turns into liquid. The particles move away from each other and begin to vibrate more quickly. When you apply more heat, the water becomes vapour and the particles move further apart, vibrating at greater speed. The ice changes its form but still the basic chemical elements remain the same. Similarly, yoga considers pure consciousness to be the basic element that manifests in the various forms of creation.
From Swara Yoga Page 29:
Within bindu exist two poles of energy – one positive and the other negative, and at the nucleus is matter. The positive pole represents consciousness or Shiva and can be equated with time. The negative pole represents prana or Shakti and can be equated with space. As long as Shiva and Shakti are together, dormant, there is no movement, no spark, no creation. But as soon as the split takes place and these two forces are separated into positive and negative poles, they begin to interact upon each other. At this point the two poles start to proceed towards each other and eventually they connect at the nucleus.
Time and space have first to be separated before they can meet. When these two forces – time and space, Shiva and Shakti – come together again, a great explosion takes place and the nucleus of matter bursts into trillions of fragments which form the nebulae of creation. These nebulae vibrate at such an incredible speed and velocity that they emanate ultrasonic waves and light. This is the first manifestation of cosmic prana, which is represented by the cosmic body. Thus in the process of creation and evolution, we have two definite aspects before us – cosmic mind and cosmic prana.
[B]Swara yoga equates Shakti and Shiva with prana and chitta (consciouness), which manifest in the body as the two nadis, Pingala and Ida. [/B]In Samkhya philosophy they are known as prakriti and purusha, in Taoism as yin and yang. Theses are the two forces which uphold the universe and spark off the entire creation.
When you have a sensory experience, the electricity flows through two different systems in the body, the Parasympathetic Nervous System (Ida) and the Sympathetic Nervous System (Pingala). The Ida Nadi is responsible for telling you what you are experiencing. The Pingala Nadi is responsible for the Fight or Flight response and so it can’t waste time trying to figure out what it is you are experiencing because it could possibly be life threatening. The Pingala puts the electrical sensation through the catalog of sensations that you’ve already experienced and if deemed to be threatening, immediately takes the appropriate bodily response. It is the reconciliation of these two signals that come from the same experience that causes thought or vibration (positive vs negative). Think about how your body reacts when it hears a loud noise. There are two reactions. One primes the body for action while waiting for instructions. If there is pain involved, the Sympathetic Nervous System withdraws from the source before getting instructions from the Parasympathetic System. As long as the Ajna Chakra is not open, you will experience the world through these two systems that bring about body consciousness.
From Swara Yoga Page 33:
In swara yoga it is said that if you absorb your concentration in the breath and prana, you realize that you are the breath and the body is the manifestation of that breath and consciousness. So the question arises - “Who am I”
I now know why Lahiri keeps repeating how important the breathless state is in his 108 pieces of advice – The unbalanced breath is the greatest cause of energy inequality in the body. It supplies the Sympathetic and Parasympathetic systems with unequal amounts of energy creating grosser vibrations and thus thought. Trying to meditate with unbalanced breath is like trying to meditate with somebody grabbing your shoulders and shaking you. What’s the point? You can’t relax and no prana is going up the Sushumna. I guess you could say you’re gaining flexibility sitting. ( I know that I’ve posted this several times but I myself have probably read it 108 times):
http://www.sanskritclassics.com/advent.htm
- The transcendence of inhaling and exhaling is called Kebala Kumbhaka.
- If one moves the breath [practices Pranayam] always, breath ceases and becomes tranquil, sthira.
- When one has attained the tranquil Breath, then, for him, the only work which remains is to hold onto the state of tranquility always.
- It is difficult to express the state when the breath becomes tranquil, Sthira.
- When the breath is tranquil day and night, then, one realizes the real state of Rama Mantra.
- When the breath is tranquil, it is the state of Kumbhaka. When one sees Oneself, it is called Brahmajnana, “the Knowledge of Brahma, the ultimate Self.”
- There is no need to breath in or out. It is a much happier state; tranquility is there; this is Brahma.
- Kriya practice brings divine wealth, that is, Sthirattva, the state of Tranquility.
- Tranquil Moment beyond breath is Allah, that is, the House of Tranquility.
- Exhaust your breath in practicing Kriya. Eventually breath will be Sthira, Tranquil.
The more I learn, the more I realize how important Kechari is. As Jesus said in the Gospel of Thomas:
#106 Jesus said, “[B]When you make the two one, you will become the sons of man[/B], and when you say, ‘Mountain, move away,’ it will move away.”
For a Kundalini aspirant, your spiritual progress is dependent on how much time you spend per day with your Nadis balanced! Have you balanced your Nadis today?
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Off topic? This thread has always been about what I practice, have experienced, learned from my practice and reading and what I think I should practice in the future. The question should I continue spinal breathing or just meditate in the breathless state was correctly answered by Lavendar within 24 hours of the thread’s inception:
The breathless state certainly powers down the mind eliminating most of the polarity imbalance caused by the unequal breath, but it does not completely shut it down. There is still a slight amount of air coming in from the vacuum created by the carbon dioxide leaving the body on its own through the open Nadi. You must balance the Nadis (Make the two one) to make the prana move up the Sushumna through the Brahma Nadi. Then what little air that enters the nose from the vacuum created by the carbon dioxide leaving will have a balanced polarity. Practicing Kriya breaths with the Sushumna flowing is how you clear up the Nadis, Sushumna and Chakras.
As Yogananda wrote:
Twenty-four hours of prayer or meditation by any other technique (except Kriya Yoga) will not produce as much spiritual advancement as one hour practice of Hong-Sau. Likewise, it would take twenty-four hours of deep Hong-Sau practice to produce the same spiritual result gained from one hour of Kriya Yoga.
1 hour of Kriya Yoga = ~ 576 hours of normal meditation
I want to add.
The sympathetic and parasympathetic are ganglia.
The vagus nerve comes out of the brain, meshes with the spinal bulb, then splits.
One half runs down the left neck, the other half running down the right side.they are then known as sympathetic/parasympathetic.
Now keep with me.
Both these sets of nerves connect to the carotid arteries in the neck.
The blood flow in the carotid arteries are heavily effected by breathing " when their is no nostril resistance, the sound of breathing is created by the throat, meaning their is resistance in the throat, meaning stimulation".
To be short. Stimulate the blood flow in either carotid art are and you stimulate the nerve attached ;).
Those two nerve systems heavily attach.
Any breathing you do stimulates them, unless you breath with no resistance/sound.
Ah! As well. One carotid arterie is always dominated stimulated.
Breath at the nostrils, the chest, the belly, don’t matter. The sound, the resistance, the stimulation is throat oriented.
I experienced kundalini after one day of practice.
It is not directly what I seek.
But I am taking a break from what I seek.
I am retesting my method for kundalini.
I’ll let you know the results.
I will be simply making sure both arteries are equally stimulated. No alternating. Just simultaneous stimulation.
Think of it like a jacobs ladder. A spark gap.
Anode and cathode. Relaxed upon waking or going back to sleep "semi trance state"
With right conditions, Snap! Intense electrical like pressure in spine/whole body, Soon as reaching head if not already their, I pop out of body fully conscious.
Anyway. A theory coupled with a tad of personal experiance.
An yes, I apologize for any misinformation I have put out their as well.
I have said some wrong things when concerning what I seek.
Ah see. I apologize.
I know the vagus and spinal nerve have some sort of connection.
It may simply be the medulla.
I will have to look in my greys anatomy book.
Albiet I take back what I said about the vagus connecting with the spinal bulb.
Though the vagus nerve does connect to carotid arteries and jugular veins.
An is easily stimulated. I believe even pressing on the neck stimulates them.
Their is no other place on the body where these nerves are so easily influenced."all other spots are covered by bone, organs, thick flesh.
I realy like to know how to induce inner heat from relaxed breathing in khechari mudra.
Hatha yoga pradipika states that it will happen. But something like this happens only when the nose is blocked by the tongue in the highest stage. i would like to know how long to breath in and out (heart beats or seconds) to experience the heat. Many people talk about it, but not clear enough for the green light. In tummo there is visualization (which i dont like to perform), uddiyana bandha (agni-sara and nauli), and ujjayi (kriya pranayama if performed in khechari mudra). Ujjayi is my favorite choise. In kriya pranayama you are not allowed to hold the breath which is fine by me. When is the inner heat egnited with ujjayi (in khechari mudra)? And how is it possible that heat is produced by simply slowing the breath in ujjayi? For the record i have no guru. I believe my guru will appear when the time is right. In the mean time, there is no time to waste. I will not wait untill my guru appears to me while i know full well that the real guru comes from within and is the cause of everything happening in my life including asking these question that will ultimately lead to self realization.
I have one question for you umunhum
The tenth gate where is it located for you, is it below the skull or do you have to go within one of the openings to find its location. Is it the secret spot that triggers inner sexuality or is it the tenth gate. Is it indeed the same location (where the secret spot was located)?
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Now keep with me.
Both these sets of nerves connect to the carotid arteries in the neck.
The blood flow in the carotid arteries are heavily effected by breathing " when their is no nostril resistance, the sound of breathing is created by the throat, meaning their is resistance in the throat, meaning stimulation".
To be short. Stimulate the blood flow in either carotid artery and you stimulate the nerve attached ;).
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I am still grappling with the interplay between the 5 bodies that make up our being and the states of consciousness. I know that there are 5 sheaths or bodies that make up our being and 4 states of consciousness that make up our awareness. The 5 bodies are the physical, the electrical, the mental or emotional, the psychic (dream state), and consciousness. The 4 states of consciousness are what we experience successively between these 5 bodies (for the most part – the goal posts move a little bit) and are the conscious state, the subconscious state, the unconscious state and the supra conscious state.
I now understand that as long as there is polarity in the body from the breath, you are stuck in the conscious state. Nadi Shodhana is instrumental in exiting the interplay between the Physical (Annamaya Kosha) and the Electrical (Pranayama Kosha) bodies. Interestingly the physical body can be used to control the electrical body and visa versa. I believe that shutting down the senses is necessary to get past the Subconscious state that exists between the Electrical body and the Mental body (Manomaya Kosha). This takes you to the Unconscious state or the void (beginning stages of Samadhi) that exists between the Mental state and the Psychic State (Vijnanamaya Kosha). Once the Third Eye opens you make it to the Anandamaya Kosha or SupraConsciousness (Enlightenment).
You achieved this about 10 months quicker than I did. What you are feeling and calling a ribbon is the thin strip of skin between those two openings and yes those holes lead down to the nasal passages. The top of that ribbon is the secret spot or what AYPsite calls the alter of bliss. You can see the ribbon gets thicker and “bulgy” near the top. This tissue will get more sensitive with time and practice. You need to stretch your tongue up to the top of the holes, go through them and up and you are on your way to the “Tenth Gate”. Look closely at the nostril holes – there are two passages in each hole. The lower one is to the nasal passage and the upper one is to the Tenth Gate.
The Sella Turcica is right below the Pituitary Gland – this is above the “Tenth Gate”.
As Jesus said Matthew 7:13:
13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
After you spend some time in Khechari, the skin that supports the tongue in stage 2 gets pliable and moves forward. This allows the tongue to go straight up. And the turbinate areas that were once “narrow” open up quite a bit. It takes a while to desensitize this area which is the stage I am at right now, so the rest of this is just conjecture.
Yogananda wrote that he practiced shutting down his senses one by one by pushing on a bone. Lahiri wrote:
There is a sticking point above the holes in the nose and it will go beyond that - gradually. Don’t force it; if you do so you can injure yourself. It will do its work after higher Kriya.
They must be talking about going up the pharynx and through the turbinate areas, that is the white part that hooks down. You then push on that bone that sticks out like a diving board and you can see that the bones above it, that support it, bend allowing it to compress the nerve signals that travel above this bone. Eventually you break through this bone and place the tongue directly under the Sella Turcica. The Sella Turcica encases the Pituitary Gland and is the round half circle type bone in the dark area known as the Sphenoid Sinus. The tongue then brings enough electricity to the the Pituitary Gland causing it to vibrate which causes the Pineal Gland to vibrate, they both start making their liquid which combine making Amrita. And then you get to drink from the Holy Grail or Fountain of Youth. This liquid anesthetizes the mind. The electricity from the tongue eventually turns on the Third Eye.
There are several reasons why I don’t think I have evolved enough yet to experience this. First off, all of my Chakras are not open. In Revelations, Jesus didn’t become one with The Divine until he opened up all seven seals. Samadhi is when your consciousness is absorbed into The Divine Consciousness. Lahiri talks about needing to loosen the 4 knots – You open up Muladhara with Maha Mudra, Vishuddha with Khechari, Manipura with Navi Kriya (I prefer following Satyananda and practice Nauli) and Anahata with Thokar (I practice Dynamic Jalahandra Bandha and Agnisar Kriya). So 4 Chakras have “knots” that need to be unraveled, Ajna has a bone you have to break through and Svadhishthana is the only Chakra that would appear to be easy to open. And I still haven’t opened it. I believe that as long as the lower Chakras are not open, there is not enough electricity running through the body to give the tongue the energy to open up the Tenth Gate and later to turn on The Third Eye (Ajna Chakra).
Lahiri wrote (referring to the lower 6 Chakras):
- One can say everything when the Kriya practice continues spontaneously at the six centers.
I believe here Lahiri is referring to Samadhi. Your consciousness is absorbed by the Universal Consciousness and you get to do anything you want. The whole universe becomes your playground.
Can you expand on what you mean by quickening effect? The only thing I take is a couple of teaspoons of MSM a day and a vitamin and mineral supplement. I read an ebook (pdf file) about 6 months ago by an architect that claimed he healed his debilitating neck and knee problems and basically that all joint problems can be solved by taking MSM. Since he had no vested interest in promoting it and seemed like the real deal, I started taking it. And magically about 3 weeks later, my knee pain disappeared. I recommended it to my yoga instructor and he had the same results. The liver turns MSM into Glutathione and this reduces inflammation in the body. It only costs $25 for a years supply and the guy has got over 100 pages in his book of testimonials. (if you have joint pain, I highly recommend doing a search for the free book “its the liver stupid”)
Which verse and who’s version of Pradipika are you studying? I don’t have any problem inducing inner heat. I am a sweaty mess after I practice in the morning. Part of this is because I live in Panama where it is pretty humid. I wouldn’t call what I do relaxed breathing though. As I wrote many posts ago, I designed my Sadhana based on Manoj’s Golden Age Kriya:
As my skills have grown, my Sadhana has gotten progressively more intense.
- I start off with 11 rounds of Nadi Shodhana. I start by exhaling through the left nostril with my tongue in Kechari stage 3 completely sealing off the right nostril into Maha Bandha. After I lock out my stomach with Uddiyana, I do 50 stomach pumps (agnisar kriya). When I first started doing these I could only do about 8 pumps 10 times and my stomach was worn out. On the inhale, I go into Dynamic Jalandhara Chin pumps for 10 circles ( http://aypsite.org/139.html ) but instead of counting I say AYPsite’s Samayama ( http://aypsite.org/150.html ) saying the 9 words one with each circle and adding perfect vision for the tenth circle. I then exhale into the right nostril repeating the process for a total of 11 rounds on both sides. If your kechari cannot seal the nostril, you have to use your fingers for the exhales and inhales.
I then switch from sitting in Siddhasana to Padmasana. Nauli is much easier when the stomach muscles are stretched out. (Stay in Siddhasana when you perform Maha Bandhas if your Kundalini is not on yet - it is more important to work on your Muladhara than Manipura)
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Breath of Fire or Kapalabhati. I do 10 rounds out of each nostril rotating back and forth for 100 rounds ( 50 out of each nostril ), then rest my tongue on the Nasal Septum for 200 rounds out of both nostrils at the same time for a total of 300 exhales.
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Go right into Maha Bandha and do a cross between Stomach grinding and Nauli for 20 times to the right. The next exhale 20 times to the left. I try to practice Nauli but it is more of a churn than a roll. This still builds up a lot of heat though. On the inhale, I immediately go breathless and do two rounds of Chaturtha, but instead of just going up and down the chakras, I will once again say AYP’s Samyama words in the chakras. I do a total of 20 Maha Bandhas churning both ways 10 times and repeating the Samyama words twice. (the word inner sensuality is my favorite because it has 7 syllables and so you can say a syllable in each chakra)
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Shanmukhi Mudra - On the exhale, once again go into Maha Bandha and do 20 to 25 agnisar kriya pumps (it is more difficult to do these because my hands are now closing off the 7 gates instead of being able to brace myself pushing down on the knees) and on the inhale I alternate between Satyananda’s Kriya 10 and 11 (Naumukhi Mudra and Shakti Chalini) I don’t imagine a trident piercing my chakras though, I just pump out 20 mulabandhas and imagine the energy rising. I normally do 3 cycles down the Arohan and up the Awarohan path of the chakras for Kriya 11. I do this for a total of 12 times doing 2 sets of Kriya 10 and then 2 sets of Kriya 11 – 3 times. These are also done with the tongue blocking off alternating nostrils going into Maha Bandha.
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14 internal OM’s. Just inhale a full breath, keep the mouth closed and exhale out the right nostril humming as loud as I can. Repeat on the other side for a total of 7 on each side
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Bow down to the Gurus. I say the Lord’s Prayer and then 5 Jesus’ Prayer, then bow down 4 separate times – One for Jesus – One for the Yogananda Linage – One for the Satyananda Linage – One for my family, friends, lovers and other teachers.
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I chant Satyananda’s Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Je858eqwUw
and then say a few prayers.
And so I practice an advanced form of Nadi Shodhana in 1, 2, 4, and 5.
I then go outside for a walking meditation where I perform Nadi Shodhana saying Hari Krishna Mantra (Maha Mantra) for about 45 minutes to an hour. (two counts on the inhale (Hare Ri), 6 counts on the kumbhaka (Krish Na Hare Ri Krish Na), 4 counts on the exhale (Krish Na Krish Na), 4 counts on the kumbhaka Hare Ri Hare Ri). Hari Rama on the other nostril. As soon as I make it to earth on my walk, I go barefoot. I believe in Earthing.
When I return, I will sit on my yoga ball and roll off 30 Breath of fires. On the last breath I will stand up off the ball exhale as deep as I can dropping my torso to the ground and go into Maha Bandha. I then perform Nauli rolling my stomach 20 times to the right. On the inhale sit back down on the ball and perform Samyama again in Cathartha pranayama going up and down the Chakras 2 times before repeating the 30 Breath of fires and performing Nauli to the left. I do this 14 times or 7 on each side.
I don’t do any basic Kriya Breaths in my morning Sadhana. I know that this Sadhana sends a lot of electricity through the body because this is what burnt up my frenulum causing scabs to keep appearing under my tongue until my Vishuddha opened. When I didn’t do this Sadhana a few days when I traveled last year, the scabs disappeared and immediately reappear once I started up again. I was doing a more basic form of this back then – only 20 agnisar pumps instead of 50, 5 Jalahandra chin pumps instead of 10. Try doing this Sadhana for a few days and see if your Uvula is burning through the bottom of your tongue. Normally the 1 - 7 part takes me about an hour and 15 minutes.
You and I think alike. I have no Guru either other than the masters that I read and follow. I read that it takes 3 things to become enlightened; a burning desire, practice, and the company of saints. I try to fulfill the later by reading as many masters as I can. I have over 100 books now on yoga and have only read about 40 of them. Most of these books are not the kind of book you can read 100 pages a day. And so on one hand I feel overwhelmed and don’t know which book to read next. On the other hand I am so blessed to have so much great information available to me. That said a Guru would really simplify my life taking away a lot of uncertainty.
The Tenth Gate is the Cribriform Plate. If you go back and look at Post #157, I posted two pictures that show it. One is a skull and the other is a graphic. I believe that it is necessary to break through the Tenth Gate to open the Third Eye. As long as the Tenth Gate is intact, you cannot get your tongue directly under the Pituitary Gland or the Sella Turica as Anonymous posted, and so the electricity flowing to the Ajna Chakra is not powerful enough to turn it on. And thus you are stuck in the lower levels of Samadhi. The Tenth Gate is a barrier of sorts. Hopefully this and my explanation above clarifies this for you.
As I wrote before, Lahiri would have his disciples practice 10 to 12 hours of basic kriyas to get to Samadhi. Maybe this is a prerequisite of breaking through the Tenth Gate to open up Ajna. I don’t know. This is one of the first questions I would ask my Guru. I have no problem sitting and practicing pranayama for about 90 minutes every morning. I have never gone beyond this.
I am doing a lot of work on my Manipura Chakra right now and I am very happy with the progress I have achieved in the performance of Nauli but I am still in the dark about where I stand. I feel like I need to open my lower chakras (Svadhishthana and Manipura) before I can reach Samadhi.
For me the tissue underneath the Tenth Gate is more sensitive than the Secret spot (top of the Nasal Septum). When I put my tongue on this tissue I immediately feel sensitivity whereas the septum’s sensitivity builds after practicing for awhile. I have noticed that when I practice Nauli, I also unconsciously roll my tongue the same direction as my stomach over my nasal septum which makes it sensitive. After an orgasm with my tongue touching the Tenth Gate, everything gets extremely sensitive.
This knowledge has me somewhat perplexed because on one hand Yogananda was a lifelong celibate. Vivekananda (RamaKrishna’s foremost disciple) said that if you go 12 years without a sexual thought, you will reach enlightenment. Sivananda expressed thoughts similar to Vivekananda. Yet I have experiential evidence that suggests sex creates the greatest amount of electricity in the body. And I can’t help thinking that all 12 of Jesus’ disciples were married including Jesus himself according to the Gnostics. Satyananda particpated in sex but in a satsang said that once every two weeks was sufficient because of the amount of energy created. Go figure that out.
The Tantra School that I studied at said have sex as much as you want as it creates electricity in the body but never go past the point of no return. (no orgasms) Eventually if you can stay at 90% (of the stimulation needed for an orgasm) for a long period of time (an hour plus), you will experience wave after wave of energetic bliss. These people didn’t practice Khechari though and I know from experience that when one nostril is completely sealed along with Vajroli Mudra, no Ojas is lost during an orgasm. That said, after an orgasm the tissue under the Tenth Gate and the Nasal Septum is so sensitive that I can’t keep my tongue in Khechari. I would love to hear other people’s experience with this.
The first time I self pleasured I was 8. I experienced “inner sexuality”.
Being so young, I quickly delved into sexual indulgence over the years.
At 17 I ejaculated 3 to 6 times daily.
At 17 I was two years into isolating myself in order to self educate.
I started a Pranayama practice.
I breathed everyday for about a month.
All day everyday.
I went from trapped by sexual desire, to void of sexual desire completely. Even the desire for woman relationship wise vanished.
Nerves also partially opened and released their associated tensions.
Long story short. I ended up performing “inner sexuality” 5 times.
3 times with heat. Twice without.
When their is heat, that is when the bodies flesh turns red. When the physical vitality doubles.
When their is no heat, not much happens.
Now, I will tell you, the flesh turning red is a dominant sign in knowing transformation in happening. I mean from head to toes,solid red.
Yet, a dominant key sign, that will tell you, you are ready to do such a transformation.
When one tries to pee, it is as if one has trouble urinating.
It is likened to “stage fright”.
Or like trying to pee after ejaculation.
One must be very relaxed, for the slightest bit of tension sends the urine completely back into the bladder. From which point you must start all over.
I have spent 8 years reverse engineering every inch of my experience.
most written information I have come upon can describe these experiences and where they may go. But method is never revealed.
I am certain breathing is key.
As well, I have only met one person in 8 years who experienced this. She experienced it 3 times.
Once at 19, twice at 21.
To her it was complete fluke.
This is 100 percent genuine testimony on my part.
I have dedicated my life to figuring it out.
So I take this very seriously.
I gave you the short testimonial, as their are many effects and benefits that I did not mention. “Increased eye sight,hearing,increased mental capacity,awake whIle sleeping,body order smells sweet, etc etc etc etc”.
[QUOTE=omshanti;83409]The kundalini is active for many people since birth [in this life]. Only a relatively small amount of people are completely “switched-off” when it comes to the awareness of the chakras and the energy within the spine, nadis, head, etc.
When he says he “turned on” his kundalini, it [already] suggests a misunderstood or otherwise altered path. Similar to the “Chaos Magicians” and “Theosophists” - theirs is a system based on similar notions, but make no mistake it is NOT kriya yoga.
For all intents and purposes, he is rushing the process and skipping over so many important things. This is actually misleading for anyone not familiar with kriya yoga. If one didn’t know any better, they would taken his word for it - which would be a comedy of errors indeed. Even if he avoided taking responsibility for this, that does not change the fact that it would negatively influence an unknown amount of potential-yogis.
He is haphazardly flipping through the experiences and using a botched version of he assumes the techniques of kriya are/were.
There is more to it than this. Maybe one should shut his mouth and find someone who actually has been through the FULL process. OR, stay quiet for many years until he has figured it all out and purified the mind of the disgusting impulses of individuality.
Totally unnecessary/unwarranted diatribe about his perceptions. Kindly pick up after your dog, I mean ego, sir. Save it for your diary.
The various states of kumbhak are not only commonplace to advanced yogis, they are a prerequisite to the higher kriyas and states of awareness.
This is why some people need a guru, because the ego gets so excited that you have experienced something outside of the paradigm of normal mundane life, that the student might start experimenting with lateral experiences.
It is only one of hundreds of stepping stones on the path. In other words, he is becoming infatuated with his own gross experience. It is like being proud of one’s own feces, taking it in a bucket from door-to-door around the village because you think everyone will feel the same way you do about it. Foolishness.
This is one of the many good reasons there are rules, regulations, and vows in yoga.
Here is an example of the type of delusions and assumptions that can happen to a person experimenting with techniques. It’s actually embarrassing but he does not yet realize this.
Again, this would be better suited for a diary.
Was the tongue is in Khechari when you perform mahabandha?
[Rhetorical question, please do not respond]
Between Talabya kriya and khechari there is no reason to “trap the tongue” and “stretch the tongue” using mahabandha.
You say something is guiding you, then follow it.
It is the ego that takes this “guidance” and relates it to Sri Lahiri Mahashaya and Kriya yoga.
Here again we see this person make a series of radical assumptions.
His asserstions are ignorant, and do not represent Lahiri Mahashaya or Satyananda
It seems like this is his attempt at humor.[/QUOTE]
Jealous ass guy. great work umunhum. still doing talavya kriyas 
You are GOD! You are GOD playing an elaborate game of Hide and Seek with yourself. And you will continue to play this game until you open up your 7 Chakras. You are the Protagonist in this game and the Devil, Lucifer, or Satan is the Antagonist. And the Gag of all Gags is that Satan has tricked you into thinking that you are him, that his desires are your desires, and that this world has something to offer you.
The mind is Satan or more specifically the emotional body called the Ego. You don’t die and go to Heaven or Hell, you are already there depending on how the light of your consciousness flows in the body.
As Jesus said in The Gospel of Thomas:
“If those who lead you say to you, ‘See, the kingdom is in the sky,’ then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, ‘It is in the sea,’ then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. [B]When you come to know yourselves[/B], then you will become known, and [B]you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty.[/B]”
Here Jesus is describing Heaven and Hell. And in Matthew 16 21
21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
22 Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”
23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “[B]Get behind me, Satan![/B] You are a stumbling block to me; [B]you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns[/B].”
Jesus wasn’t calling Peter Satan, he was using it as a metaphor referring to Peter’s ego. The Christian Churches have completely contorted Jesus teachings just like what the Scribes and the Pharisees did to the Jewish religion in Jesus’ day – again from the Gospel of Thomas:
Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the Scribes have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered nor have they allowed those who want to enter to do so.
Here Jesus is talking about The Kingdom of Heaven. As readers of this thread already know The Kingdom of Heaven is experienced when through the practice of Khechari Mudra you redirect the energy flows in the body so that the light of the consciousness flows through to the Pineal Gland or Third Eye instead of the Medulla Oblongata. When your consciousness flows through to the Medulla Oblongata or mind, this gives life to the Ego or Satan.
The Ego is constantly creating desires for you to fulfill. And again they are nothing more than wanting to experience an electricity from this false paradigm (called earth or maya) that is experienced within. Everything is interpreted within you, you don’t get pleasure from the outside world. If the mind doesn’t like the electricity that it is experiencing, there is Hell to pay. If the mind does like the electricity that it is experiencing, the mind stops vibrating and you get to feel your true nature for a brief moment as the mind goes desireless. The only time you get to feel the bliss that is your true nature is when you are pleasing the mind with the electricity from the world that it wants to experience in that moment.
This is why Jesus referred to the Mind or Ego as Satan. You will live in Hell tormented by Satan until you open up your Chakras. The way to win this elaborate game is you must unplug the mind from its power source which is the vibrations of the body. I read Lahiri Mahasaya’s Autobiography recently (compiled from his diaries - I cannot recommend it enough) and he kept saying over and over again that you must make the prana static. He also kept stressing how important Khechari Mudra is.
The breath gives life to the body. As I’ve written before all the prana from the air that comes in from the right nostril gets a postive charge applied to it (used to power up the Sympathetic Nervous Sytem or Pingala Nadi) and a negative charge gets placed on the prana that comes into the left nostril (Parasympathetic or Ida Nadi). The word Chakra means wheel. And when this prana makes it down to the Muladhara Chakra to supply the body with electricity, it can go up the Ida Nadi, the Pingala Nadi, or the Brahma Nadi. If your breath is unbalanced, then the prana coming in will either mainly flow through the Ida or Pingala Nadis. This causes the Chakras or Wheels to start spinning towards whichever nadi is currently dominate and the electrical flow of the body is expressed externally and you live in the world.
The Ida and Pingala Nadis crisscross each other all the way up the spine (As can be seen by the Red and White lines that circle the chakras in the above picture) and so once the Muladhara starts spinning the Svadhishthana starts spinning the other way and Manipura spins the opposite way all the way up depending on which Nadis is currently dominate. Every 90 minutes or so the Nadis shift dominance and the Chakras change their rotation. This causes the chakras spin to slow, finally stop and then start spinning the other way. It really doesn’t matter which way the chakras spin, regardless your energy is expressed in the external world or you are enraptured by Maya.
Through the practice of Khechari Mudra, it is extremely easy to balance the air flow in the nostrils. Then at the Muladhara there is a gathering of prana that is equal in polarity [B]and the Chakra cannot spin one way or the other.[/B] This causes the prana to start going up the Brahma Nadi and the Mudadhara Chakra opens and your Kundalini turns on. Maha Bandha is instrumental in building up more prana to allow this to happen.
Once the Chakra stops spinning the energy that once expressed itself causing you to experience the external world then starts helping you clear the blockages internally and you start to experience your internal world. The only way to progress in your spiritual path is to stop the spin on these chakras and have the prana travel up the Sushumna or Brahma Nadi. This clears out your karma. That is why Jesus keeps repeating that you must make the two one.
I feel that the spinning of the Muladhara is directly connected to the contraction of the Diaphragm. And once the Muladhara stops spinning and opens, the diaphragm stops contracting and the disparity in polarity of the breath lessons to the point where the other Chakras don’t spin as fast and mental activity slows. That is not to say that intelligence is affected in any way, the distractions that inhibit the thinking process go away.
As you go up the spine to the higher Chakras, it takes a much finer balance between the polarity of the prana to open them up. Hopefully that makes sense for you. I debated whether to post this information as I have no source for it. It intuitively came to me when I kept pondering what Lahiri meant when he spoke about how you must make the prana static.
How do you know you are making progress on the spiritual path? Calmness and clarity keeps increasing.
Just a general remark.
I made a video about Yoga and The Hidden Teachings of Jesus.
Regular readers of this thread already know most of the information on this video as I copied much of what I have written here. This is a tool you can use to expose family and friends to this information.
Hopefully this video will aide in raising the Consciousness of Humanity: