See core789? - He is a Hindu (as most of this forum is, with the odd Buddhist here and there…yes, I said ‘odd Buddhist’).
What makes you think most of this forum is Hindu?
SD and Core are the only professing Hindus on this forum that I know of. And the Buddhists have left the building.
The rest are into some kind of “direct spirituality” it seems, totally unencumbered by a religion.
[QUOTE=thomas;44586]“Lucifer” and “Satan” are the same. Lucifer fell from grace.
Anyway, I don’t know if she means “THE” Satan or a different one. If she means the Satan of Christianity, then what she’s doing is as evil as it gets, though she could be deluded.
How about if we talked about hobbies, Nobody, and I said my hobbies were raping women and torturing kittens.
Would you defend me? Would you be happy for me that I have something fun to do in my spare time and in my own unique way?
But I think the average person would be horrified by that, and multiply that times 1,000, and that’s how I feel about Satan worship. How can I be tolerant of the worship of evil?
But again…I don’t know for sure if she means “The Evil One,” “The Devil,” “The Satan of the Bible.” But that’s how it seems so far.
KundaliniGirl, run from this Satan worship. It’s dangerous.
I am being your “best friend” by telling you this and by not being your enabler.[/QUOTE]
I am more of a facilitator than an enabler.
I appreciate your position as a Christian, but you also must understand that this ‘Free Will’ the Creator bestowed upon us lends itself to not being influenced in any way unless we actually want/allow it to.
You could also entreat me to give up my Pagan beliefs and follow Jesus, but pigs would sprout wings and fly before that would ever happen.
If I am going to burn in Hell for all eternity, so be it. At least in my suffering, I would be very happy realising that I was wrong and this is what it took to finally convince me of that.
If there actually is a ‘life after death’ and I stand before my Creator to have my heart weighed up against my sins on those celestial scales of His, I will just be happy enough to ‘be there’ and know that I was wrong in thinking that death was the end of it.
I really don’t care what happens to my soul after that because my ‘life lesson’ this time around (if you believe in reincarnation) can only be learned after I die.
Now, if KundaliniGirl wants to believe in Satan, so be it and to each their own.
If she goes to Hell because of it, that’s where she [B]wants[/B] to be.
If she gets into Lucifers ‘good books’ there’s a chance (albeit a very slim one) that trolls wont knit scarves from her intestines (or her astral fibres if the soul has no corporeal form). 
Now, Satan worshipers don’t rape women, torture kittens, steal money etc…
Remember, I have already said what the difference between being evil and being just plain stupid was.
To drive this home, I shall go into the basic tenets of the Church of Satan:
(Oh…the number of times that I have tried to help unappreciative, stupid bastards who were better off living in squalor and misery because they were permanently stuck there in their own minds).
(Everybody has problems and the last thing most people want to hear is you whining to them about yours. You can tell a million people that you are fed up with something, but unless you try and change that situation yourself, you will [I]always[/I] be fed up with it and no amount of whining to anybody will ever change that).
(People should always respect the privacy of other people and learn when they are out of their own territory and intruding upon the territory and privacy of others)
(You have every right to do this. I would suggest that a meeting be held in a ‘neutral territory’ and then ask them rather rudely to leave).
(however, when Satanists perform the act of mating, it’s a ‘no holds barred’ affair that takes sexual pleasure to various highs and lows…bondage…torture…mutual cutting and blood sucking…every conceivable (or inconceivable) act your mind can ever dream of).
(That’s like…oh geez…better me to die from lung cancer than my friend, so I shall pinch a smoke while he’s not looking). LOL
Acknowledge the power of Magick.
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
(refer to #2)
Do not harm little children.
(So, there goes the notion of Satanists being pedophiles, doesn’t it)?
(…and there goes the ‘kitten torture’ theory).
(again, it’s a privacy thing…all it says is ‘keep to yourself’ and ‘mind your own business’, then, you have the right to abuse others who don’t do likewise).
Now, we go onto the ‘Sins against Satan’
So you see, it’s not all ‘lets worship an evil horned beasty thing, kill helpless kittens and take candy from babies’ kind of thing…
[QUOTE=thomas;44587]What makes you think most of this forum is Hindu?
SD and Core are the only professing Hindus on this forum that I know of. And the Buddhists have left the building.
The rest are into some kind of “direct spirituality” it seems, totally unencumbered by a religion.[/QUOTE]
Just a general observation, but if my observations are [B]too[/B] ‘general’ then I apologise.
I also have noticed that all of the Buddhists have ‘left the building’ in the past fortnight or so…that’s a shame. They were fun to have around sigh
Yes, there are also all of those ‘religions unknown’ who also post here, however, I notice that those who have an actual ‘religion’ are the most vocal/active on this whole site, so that’s probably why I reached the conclusion that I did.
How do you know so much about Satanism?
What do Satanists think about Christ?
Do Satanists believe the same things Christians do, except choose the other side?
From my perspective, there are certain “clubs” that are just plain no good. A Jew doesn’t have to be tolerant of a Nazi’s beliefs. I don’t have to be tolerant of a Satanist’s beliefs. Satan is the enemy of God, and I am to be the friend of God, so what sense would it make for me to be tolerant of a belief that is purposely in opposition to God?
No need to apologize about the Hindu thing. You could be right for all I know. I just haven’t heard anyone else identify themselves as one.
And I don’t belive someone will go to Hell necessarily because they are Pagan or even a Atheist. And I don’t believe in reincarnation.
PS Nobody, just want to make it clear that the discussions and disagreements I’ve had with you have been with an intent to be cordial. I sometimes am a little intense, but I don’t intend to be combative, and I hope I am not coming across that way.
[QUOTE=thomas;44595]PS Nobody, just want to make it clear that the discussions and disagreements I’ve had with you have been with an intent to be cordial. I sometimes am a little intense, but I don’t intend to be combative, and I hope I am not coming across that way.[/QUOTE]
Not at all. In fact, I enjoy the mental stimulation. 
I have also met enough Christians in my lifetime to sort of ‘lump you all into one pot’, so if I come across as being anti-Christian…well, I am…but there’s also no personal offense intended, so I humbly apologise.
How do you know so much about Satanism?
I’d rather not go into details about that. lol
What do Satanists think about Christ?
It varies widely from deep respect to hatred…again, it’s an individual thing.
There’s no ‘official position’ on Christ overall.
Do Satanists believe the same things Christians do, except choose the other side?
Sort of…but Satanists don’t place as much emphasis (none actually) on love, forgiveness and all that.
According to them, people suffer because of Karma and because ‘they want to’. People are stupid/ignorant until proven otherwise and there aren’t as many ‘taboos’ surrounding concepts like sex and fornication.
Those are your main differences.
I don’t have to be tolerant of a Satanist’s beliefs. Satan is the enemy of God, and I am to be the friend of God, so what sense would it make for me to be tolerant of a belief that is purposely in opposition to God?
Of course and I respect that. In the end though, all we can do is agree to disagree and remain good mates amirite?
If everybody did this, the world would be a much nicer place to live in.
Perhaps the buddhists are in noble silence ,not much use on an internet forum of course !
Are you speaking of THE Satan? The one also known as Lucifer?
Also known as the Father of Lies.[/QUOTE]
Lucifer is a Latin word (from the words lucem ferre), literally meaning "light-bearer",
i think the only way is to pracitise, meditate and go with the flow, sat nam
oops, I think I have lost my flow
Why doesn’t kundalini girl come forward & clear the air for us!?
Look. Satanism isn’t about killing kittens or raping or hurting or anything like that! It’s about finding the power from within and become self-aware and self-loving. It’s a very peaceful religion and we wish to hurt no one unless they harm us first. If you want more information, please visit this website: Joyofsatan.org .
Yes, it has pentagrams, and yes it’s red and black, but please read the information and keep an open mind.
and you can call me Helena.
[QUOTE=KundaliniGirl;44906]Look. Satanism isn’t about killing kittens or raping or hurting or anything like that! It’s about finding the power from within and become self-aware and self-loving. It’s a very peaceful religion and we wish to hurt no one unless they harm us first. If you want more information, please visit this website: Joyofsatan.org .
Yes, it has pentagrams, and yes it’s red and black, but please read the information and keep an open mind.[/QUOTE]
I read it.
Very scary stuff.
Scary as in interesting or scary as in ‘i hate it to death’?
[QUOTE=Nobody;44324]Maybe, you should not focus on raising your Kundalini and let that be a ‘by product’ of your spiritual practice rather than the goal of it.
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Agree…
[QUOTE=Seeker33;44336]Kundalini is elevator. What you prefer, to climb stairs or to use elevator?[/QUOTE
if the elevator is too fast … it can “smash” the brain…
Kundalini is intelligent energy. Try this experiment.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2324837246189907116#
[QUOTE=KundaliniGirl;45106]Scary as in interesting or scary as in ‘i hate it to death’?[/QUOTE]
It’s a scary idea to intentionally deal with the devil–let alone worship him. Gives me the creeps. I rarely say anything negative about a religion, but this seems more like an anti-religion. Nothing against you, personally, though. You seem like a nice person, but I don’t get why you would want anything to do with this.
Hi,
In my opinion, Kundalini force cannot be or should not be forced to be activated within a person. A person has to be ready to mentally and phycially to make a path for Kundalini activation. Yoga and mediation techniques help a person to be ready, however his own karmic behaviors actually help to reach the point where Kundalini is naturally activates.
I have just produced/directed a feature length documentary film that is very informative and depicts stories of real people with their Kundalini journeys. The film is available on DVD for interested folks and I can be contacted at nitin@7dotsmedia.com for details of it.
The real secret is to have a compassionate and helpful nature towards other human being and continue to follow your dreams/passion and find purpose. During this right approach towards life helps awaken this divine Kundalini energy.
Thank you
Nitin s. Adsul