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#88

Here, I found this ,…

The New Age movement is a non-religious Western spiritual movement that developed in the latter half of the 20th century. Its central precepts revolve around “drawing on both Eastern and Western spiritual and metaphysical traditions and then infusing them with influences from self-help and motivational psychology, holistic health, parapsychology, consciousness research and quantum physics”[2] in order to create “a spirituality without borders or confining dogmas” that is inclusive and pluralistic.[3] Another of its primary traits is holding to “a holistic worldview,”[4] thereby emphasising that the Mind, Body and Spirit are interrelated[1] and that there is a form of Oneness and unity throughout the universe.[5] It further attempts to create “a worldview that includes both science and spirituality”[6] and thereby embraces a number of forms of science and pseudoscience. The scientific community has debunked many New Age beliefs.

According to author Nevill Drury, the origins of the movement can be found in the 18th and 19th centuries, particularly through the works of the esotericists Emanuel Swedenborg, Franz Mesmer, Helena Blavatsky and George Gurdjieff, who laid some of the basic philosophical principles that would later influence the movement. It would gain further momentum in the 1960s, taking influence from metaphysics, self-help psychology, and the various Indian gurus who visited the West during that decade.[7]

The New Age movement includes elements of older spiritual and religious traditions ranging from atheism and monotheism through classical pantheism, naturalistic pantheism, and panentheism to polytheism combined with science and Gaia philosophy; particularly archaeoastronomy, astronomy, ecology, environmentalism, the Gaia hypothesis, psychology, and physics. New Age practices and philosophies sometimes draw inspiration from major world religions: Buddhism, Taoism, Chinese folk religion, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism; with strong influences from East Asian religions, Gnosticism, Neopaganism, New Thought, Spiritualism, Theosophy, Universalism, and Western esotericism.[8] The term New Age refers to the coming astrological Age of Aquarius.[1]

#89

Now the question is, will these types achieve enlightenment, self realisation by doing what they do?

#90

There you go Kareng, you confirmed it. The newage is a hodgepodge.

Try this recipe: In a blender put in the following ingrediants: custard, wine, pork, cheese, oranges, potatos, lager, chicken, fish, eggs. Then turn the blender on. See if anybody wants to drink the new-drink you have made.

#91

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;48019]There you go Kareng, you confirmed it. The newage is a hodgepodge.

Try this recipe: In a blender put in the following ingrediants: custard, wine, pork, cheese, oranges, potatos, lager, chicken, fish, eggs. Then turn the blender on. See if anybody wants to drink the new-drink you have made.[/QUOTE]

Oh oh oh! ME!!! NAWT!

#92

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;48019]There you go Kareng, you confirmed it. The newage is a hodgepodge.

Try this recipe: In a blender put in the following ingrediants: custard, wine, pork, cheese, oranges, potatos, lager, chicken, fish, eggs. Then turn the blender on. See if anybody wants to drink the new-drink you have made.[/QUOTE]

Yes Surya…Sikh, Hindu, Jesus liker, likes some Christians, Quantum Physics, Metaphysics, bits of a Buddhism liker, bits of Taoism liker,…this is what I know about you SD…this is why you need to admit you are a New Ager…

You can join our club if you like xx

#93

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;48022]Oh oh oh! ME!!! NAWT![/QUOTE]

SD is a New Ager, he has hung himself, I led him towards the gallows and he followed me…

#94

[QUOTE=kareng;48062]Yes Surya…Sikh, Hindu, Jesus liker, likes some Christians, Quantum Physics, Metaphysics, bits of a Buddhism liker, bits of Taoism liker,…this is what I know about you SD…this is why you need to admit you are a New Ager…

You can join our club if you like xx[/QUOTE]

Hey! Whaddaya know! That describes me as well! The only thing that isn’t there is political correctness and blind faith of old traditions, values, and practices!

#95

There is no “blind faith” in Christianity.

#96

[QUOTE=thomas;48091]There is no “blind faith” in Christianity.[/QUOTE]

I was meaning that in general Thomas. Antediluvian traditions that should have died out long ago and have no place in modern society. That includes Bhakti Hinduism, in addition to the negative and insular aspects of the Bible/Christianity and Quran/Islam, and so forth.

#97

hi,
look at the christian designs on india
http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/35_max_muller.htm

#98

Yeah, one guy writes a couple of letter and he’s the embodiment of an entire religion and people.

#99

[QUOTE=thomas;48107]Yeah, one guy writes a couple of letter and he’s the embodiment of an entire religion and people.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, considering his theories had such widespread influence and acceptance (from, you guessed it, Christian chauvinists) and negative impact on Indian history and culture…

#100

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;48111]Yeah, considering his theories had such widespread influence and acceptance (from, you guessed it, Christian chauvinists) and negative impact on Indian history and culture…[/QUOTE]

So who is he?

#101

Max Mueller is a famous indologist who came up with the Aryan invasion theory, translated the Vedas into English and came up with the dates for the beginning of Indian history. He was a paid employee of the British empire(he was paid very handsomely) and a biassed Christian who expressed his desire to have the Vedic religion destroyed.

When he dated Indian history he came up with the date by using the following method. He began with the assumption that the world began in 4004BCE as bible scholars believed at the time, then calculated when the great flood happened, how long it would have taken for the waters to dry up, and then estimated that the Aryans must have arrived in India in 1500BCE.

Despite the fact that Max Mullers theory is based on on Christian biasses, bad scholarship and bad scientific method, the Western world has never changed this obvious fabrication. They have maintained it in scholarship and in textbooks, when ironically enough Max Mueller who in his later life became a fan of Indian philosophy, admitted that he was guessing the date.

So what has the West done? They have deliberately falsified 10,000 years of Indian history and arbitarily started it at 1500BCE. This is despite the fact that records give very clear and accurate information going back 10,000 years of the dynasties of kings that ruled and Indian cities have been found going back as far as 7000BCE. Now we have clear genetic evidence that there was no influx of Caucasians in India any point in history and archeaological evidence shows very clearly no invasion or mass migration every happened.

How would you like it if Hindus invaded Europe and then claimed that its entire history is false and all evidence supporting its history is false, in fact European civilisation began 500 years ago and was started by Hindu ancestors :smiley:

It is very clear that the Christian dominated West is racist towards Hindus and has nothing but contempt for its civilisation, people, culture, religion and way of life. Hence why even today India is portrayed as a poor, superstitious, cow-worshipping country in Western media and Hinduism as nothing more than idolatory and polytheistic primitivism, rather than an enlightened Yogic religion teaching about self and god realization.

There is going to be a clash of civilisations in the future. It can also be seen happening on this forum.

#102

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;48172]Max Mueller is a famous indologist who came up with the Aryan invasion theory, translated the Vedas into English and came up with the dates for the beginning of Indian history. He was a paid employee of the British empire(he was paid very handsomely) and a biassed Christian who expressed his desire to have the Vedic religion destroyed.

When he dated Indian history he came up with the date by using the following method. He began with the assumption that the world began in 4004BCE as bible scholars believed at the time, then calculated when the great flood happened, how long it would have taken for the waters to dry up, and then estimated that the Aryans must have arrived in India in 1500BCE.

Despite the fact that Max Mullers theory is based on on Christian biasses, bad scholarship and bad scientific method, the Western world has never changed this obvious fabrication. They have maintained it in scholarship and in textbooks, when ironically enough Max Mueller who in his later life became a fan of Indian philosophy, admitted that he was guessing the date.

So what has the West done? They have deliberately falsified 10,000 years of Indian history and arbitarily started it at 1500BCE. This is despite the fact that records give very clear and accurate information going back 10,000 years of the dynasties of kings that ruled and Indian cities have been found going back as far as 7000BCE. Now we have clear genetic evidence that there was no influx of Caucasians in India any point in history and archeaological evidence shows very clearly no invasion or mass migration every happened.

How would you like it if Hindus invaded Europe and then claimed that its entire history is false and all evidence supporting its history is false, in fact European civilisation began 500 years ago and was started by Hindu ancestors :smiley:

It is very clear that the Christian dominated West is racist towards Hindus and has nothing but contempt for its civilisation, people, culture, religion and way of life. Hence why even today India is portrayed as a poor, superstitious, cow-worshipping country in Western media and Hinduism as nothing more than idolatory and polytheistic primitivism, rather than an enlightened Yogic religion teaching about self and god realization.

There is going to be a clash of civilisations in the future. It can also be seen happening on this forum.[/QUOTE]

Example of Creationism

#103

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;48172]Max Mueller is a famous indologist who came up with the Aryan invasion theory, translated the Vedas into English and came up with the dates for the beginning of Indian history. He was a paid employee of the British empire(he was paid very handsomely) and a biassed Christian who expressed his desire to have the Vedic religion destroyed.

When he dated Indian history he came up with the date by using the following method. He began with the assumption that the world began in 4004BCE as bible scholars believed at the time, then calculated when the great flood happened, how long it would have taken for the waters to dry up, and then estimated that the Aryans must have arrived in India in 1500BCE.

Despite the fact that Max Mullers theory is based on on Christian biasses, bad scholarship and bad scientific method, the Western world has never changed this obvious fabrication. They have maintained it in scholarship and in textbooks, when ironically enough Max Mueller who in his later life became a fan of Indian philosophy, admitted that he was guessing the date.

So what has the West done? They have deliberately falsified 10,000 years of Indian history and arbitarily started it at 1500BCE. This is despite the fact that records give very clear and accurate information going back 10,000 years of the dynasties of kings that ruled and Indian cities have been found going back as far as 7000BCE. Now we have clear genetic evidence that there was no influx of Caucasians in India any point in history and archeaological evidence shows very clearly no invasion or mass migration every happened.

How would you like it if Hindus invaded Europe and then claimed that its entire history is false and all evidence supporting its history is false, in fact European civilisation began 500 years ago and was started by Hindu ancestors :smiley:

It is very clear that the Christian dominated West is racist towards Hindus and has nothing but contempt for its civilisation, people, culture, religion and way of life. Hence why even today India is portrayed as a poor, superstitious, cow-worshipping country in Western media and Hinduism as nothing more than idolatory and polytheistic primitivism, rather than an enlightened Yogic religion teaching about self and god realization.

There is going to be a clash of civilisations in the future. It can also be seen happening on this forum.[/QUOTE]

I dont know anyone who hates Hindus…where do they live these people who hate Hindus??

Until a person is educated, they will have peculiar views…that is forgivable…nothing to get uppity about. Once you show them otherwise they soon wisen up…I thought America would be a concrete jungle when I got there…instead I was pleasantly surprised to see massive expanses of natural beauty…

#104

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;48172]Max Mueller is a famous indologist who came up with the Aryan invasion theory, translated the Vedas into English and came up with the dates for the beginning of Indian history. He was a paid employee of the British empire(he was paid very handsomely) and a biassed Christian who expressed his desire to have the Vedic religion destroyed.

When he dated Indian history he came up with the date by using the following method. He began with the assumption that the world began in 4004BCE as bible scholars believed at the time, then calculated when the great flood happened, how long it would have taken for the waters to dry up, and then estimated that the Aryans must have arrived in India in 1500BCE.

Despite the fact that Max Mullers theory is based on on Christian biasses, bad scholarship and bad scientific method, the Western world has never changed this obvious fabrication. They have maintained it in scholarship and in textbooks, when ironically enough Max Mueller who in his later life became a fan of Indian philosophy, admitted that he was guessing the date.

So what has the West done? They have deliberately falsified 10,000 years of Indian history and arbitarily started it at 1500BCE. This is despite the fact that records give very clear and accurate information going back 10,000 years of the dynasties of kings that ruled and Indian cities have been found going back as far as 7000BCE. Now we have clear genetic evidence that there was no influx of Caucasians in India any point in history and archeaological evidence shows very clearly no invasion or mass migration every happened.

How would you like it if Hindus invaded Europe and then claimed that its entire history is false and all evidence supporting its history is false, in fact European civilisation began 500 years ago and was started by Hindu ancestors :smiley:

It is very clear that the Christian dominated West is racist towards Hindus and has nothing but contempt for its civilisation, people, culture, religion and way of life. Hence why even today India is portrayed as a poor, superstitious, cow-worshipping country in Western media and Hinduism as nothing more than idolatory and polytheistic primitivism, rather than an enlightened Yogic religion teaching about self and god realization.

There is going to be a clash of civilisations in the future. It can also be seen happening on this forum.[/QUOTE]

I dont know anyone who hates Hindus…where do they live these people who hate Hindus??

Until a person is educated, they will have peculiar views…that is forgivable…nothing to get uppity about.

#105

[QUOTE=kareng;48379]I dont know anyone who hates Hindus…where do they live these people who hate Hindus??

Until a person is educated, they will have peculiar views…that is forgivable…nothing to get uppity about.[/QUOTE]

Define education, in the Western world specifically.

You still think that education = shedding of ignorance. In fact, in the West for the most part, education = reinforcing of Western dogma. The Aryan Invasion Theory is one aspect of this. In fact, much of my knowledge on many things comes from looking outside Western sources.

Nothing to get uppity about? You call the division of Indians along North-South lines, by skin color, by linguistic groups, and by differing views of our genetic and cultural heritage “nothing to get uppity about”?

How exactly are you enjoying things in Britain with your almost white skin and Christian upbringing?

#106

What’s her “white skin” have to do with anything? Besides, she’s half Indian, so she probably has a very nice tan at least.

#107

Come on, who hates Hindus then? You were answering my post…