Selfishness is a virtue

Spirituality
#41

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;75350]Depends what you mean by god. To say god ‘is’ really makes no difference to our life. What matters is how much of that godly power you can tap. I am not here to serve some god, I am here to become a god myself. Anybody else who wants to spend their life in servitude to god can be my guest. They will remain mortals.[/QUOTE]

To know that God is makes a tremendous positive difference to one’s life.
Like it or not from the devas on down, while each has a certain amount of freedom - each is under watch each is under the Law. To know that God is means you will naturally, if your smart, want to live in harmony with his rules. Living in harmony with the rules gives merit and the “blessings” reign down upon you and life becomes more enjoyable and prospersous.

Who doesn’t want more happiness and prosperity?

Living in harmony with the rules also removes obstacles to understanding. Helping us to find what is true, and helping us - if we want - to find our way out of the desert.

Without rules and laws there would be chaos and all we have to do is look around to see there are laws ruling everything. These Laws and rules come from the Father.

If you have fooled yourself into thinking there is no God, then your God is your deluded mind, and you live by your own thinking. Saying there is no sewing and reaping. I can do what I please and I’ll have nothing to pay. The fool persiting in his folly someday wises up.

Those seeking after godly power without a compassionate and wise heart walk the path of darkness straight towards the gates of hell. In thier wake is ruin and tears, and their journey leads to the destruction of the very thing they love so much.

#42

[QUOTE=Avatar186;75364]So if I may ask. What path are you taking to accomplish your goal?[/QUOTE]

At this moment, I have no definite path. I am at a weird point in my life where I am just exploring my desires, fears and anxieties. All spiritual stuff has been put on the backburner for now. Not done any Yoga or meditation for months. But I am increasingly finding myself drawn back to it. I hope this current phase I am in is over soon, for I understand that my real goal in life is much bigger than this.

#43

[QUOTE=Melchizedek;75433]To know that God is makes a tremendous positive difference to one’s life.
Like it or not from the devas on down, while each has a certain amount of freedom - each is under watch each is under the Law. To know that God is means you will naturally, if your smart, want to live in harmony with his rules. Living in harmony with the rules gives merit and the “blessings” reign down upon you and life becomes more enjoyable and prospersous.

Who doesn’t want more happiness and prosperity?

Living in harmony with the rules also removes obstacles to understanding. Helping us to find what is true, and helping us - if we want - to find our way out of the desert.

Without rules and laws there would be chaos and all we have to do is look around to see there are laws ruling everything. These Laws and rules come from the Father.

If you have fooled yourself into thinking there is no God, then your God is your deluded mind, and you live by your own thinking. Saying there is no sewing and reaping. I can do what I please and I’ll have nothing to pay. The fool persiting in his folly someday wises up.

Those seeking after godly power without a compassionate and wise heart walk the path of darkness straight towards the gates of hell. In thier wake is ruin and tears, and their journey leads to the destruction of the very thing they love so much.[/QUOTE]

I don’t follow any rules that I don’t want to follow. I am the master of my life. I call the shots. I do whatever I want to do.

Keep your father, I don’t want him :wink:

and you live by your own thinking.

Yeah, as should any sensible person lol Seriously, be my guest if you want to slavishly and blindly follow some set of rules by father. I am a grown up adult, I think for myself and set my own rules, and break them when I want to as well :wink:

#44

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;75442]I don’t follow any rules that I don’t want to follow. I am the master of my life. I call the shots. I do whatever I want to do.

Keep your father, I don’t want him :wink:

Yeah, as should any sensible person lol Seriously, be my guest if you want to slavishly and blindly follow some set of rules by father. I am a grown up adult, I think for myself and set my own rules, and break them when I want to as well ;)[/QUOTE]

Believe, don’t believe, know, don’t know. Whether you like it or not [I]all[/I] are under the Law.
There is no escape. Even if one removes all Karmas and frees oneself from the wheel. Even those free ones yes, are still under the Law.

#45

I am the law :wink:

#46

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;75473]I am the law ;)[/QUOTE]

If anyone is the law around here it’s me. Your Jnana is weak, just like your yoga. My Jnana easily defeats you, and banishes you to the realm of narnia where, amongst the faries, and other forrest creatures, you lord over munchkins.

#47

So you would like to think mortal :wink:

You ain’t law to me and the proof of that is I say bolloks to everything you say to me lol I am beyond you. Find somebody else to impose your law on.

#48

We are all seekers of truth and we can just share whatever insight we have gained on the spiritual path we follow. For me unconditional love is the highest virtue and that’s what I’m striving for. The beginning of love is respect for others, even though they may hold opinions and values different from ours. God gives freedom to everyone to follow his or her own ways of life. He respects our individuality, and so should we.

#49

Others do not matter. We are not born with others and we do not depart with others. It just happens to be that we belong to a species of humans and other humans also are around. Every individual is after their own selfish interests: The basic of which are food, shelter and water. It is easy to see what humans become towards each other as soon as these basics interests are threatened.

The best attitude to have to others is one of tolerance: Allow them the same freedom you yourself want to have, as long as they do not infringe on yours.

#50

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;75484]The best attitude to have to others is one of tolerance: Allow them the same freedom you yourself want to have, as long as they do not infringe on yours.[/QUOTE]

Thats a very Christian thing to say. Praise the Lord and God Bless.

See you do understand a bit of the law and do follow it so why all the lies? Do you think lying is good for you? Especially when you are deliberately trying to be mean and lie? Your actions towards me are especially agreegeous becasue you are my inferior. Tiss like a fly buzzing the king of heaven. but I forgive you for your failings and because of my magnamity your violation is less.

There. Go on. Let it be well with you - and sin no more.

(on a side note your comeback to my original diss was just like your jnana, and yoga - weak and lacking in imagination. I know you can do better.) :slight_smile:

#51

agreegeous becasue you are my inferior. Tiss like a fly buzzing the king of heaven. but I forgive you for your failings and because of my magnamity your violation is less.

There. Go on. Let it be well with you - and sin no more.

Congratulations, you are now on my ignore list. Take care.

To others: If you too have had enough of Melchizedek’s forceful and annoying preaching, you can add him to your ignore list from your user control panel. Click on “Edit ignore list” and then add his name.

#52

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;75486]Congratulations, you are now on my ignore list. Take care.[/QUOTE]

Now why would you do that? Cant stand the heat? Oh come on I’m shocked you can’t tell I was rubbing you. Very sensitive. Certainly not being very tolerant. Mr. Toleration. Isn’t it Ironic? Yeah I really do think…

It’s like Rayiaine on your wedding day!

#53

Bahahaha :slight_smile:
Discuss the idea. Not the personal.
It takes the proper touch to discuss the personal.

On another note. I feel ya Surya.
Finding the path that is homogenius with your nature?
Perfect your experiance,carve your own nich, one of my faverite sayings.

Melchizedic. No personal attacks. Please.

Surya. He is right about the law. But “law” is often now how I will say it.
fire Burns. That is how fire works. How things work is not changeable. If you put your hand in fire and it Burns. That is the law. If you put your hand in fire and it didn’t burn, that is still the law.
law=how something works.
So yes reality is under that law of the Creator,but man dosnt understand the law. Man didn’t understand how things work. If he did. He would not die nor suffer sorrow.

#54

We are all preaching. My friend S.D does it, we all do it. It’s the old cliche of the pot calling the kettle black. Some sometimes overt. Some sometimes sublte.

He does nothing different than I. I mirrored, and then amplified what I saw him doing in post after post. Maybe thats why he doesn’t approve?

#55

[QUOTE=Avatar186;75496]Bahahaha :slight_smile:

So yes reality is under that law of the Creator,but man dosnt understand the law. Man didn’t understand how things work. If he did. He would not die nor suffer sorrow.[/QUOTE]

Comming to a working knowledge of the Law, besides self realization (which is part of the law) is one of, if not the, most important endeavors a man or woman can engage themselves in. For from understanding of it comes all good things.

[I]Dr. Moreau: What is the law?
Sayer of the Law: Not to eat meat, that is the law. Are we not men?
Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?
Dr. Moreau: What is the law?
Sayer of the Law: Not to go on all fours, that is the law. Are we not men?
Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?
Dr. Moreau: What is the law?
Sayer of the Law: Not to spill blood, that is the law. Are we not men?
Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?[/I]

#56

Dharma
what is the meaning of this word? :slight_smile: :stuck_out_tongue:
looked it up. Would like your take. :slight_smile:

#57

[QUOTE=Avatar186;75504]Dharma
what is the meaning of this word? :slight_smile: :stuck_out_tongue:
looked it up. Would like your take. :)[/QUOTE]

Dharma?
Law. The way things work. The nature of things. The state of a thing. Phenomenon. Truth. The workings of reality.

Sanatana Dharma = Eternal Law

#58

:slight_smile:
And this is what we are all truly trying to understand.

#59

[quote=avatar186;75507]:slight_smile:
and this is what we are all truly trying to understand.[/quote]

bingo.

#60

Surya. He is right about the law. But “law” is often now how I will say it.
fire Burns. That is how fire works. How things work is not changeable. If you put your hand in fire and it Burns. That is the law. If you put your hand in fire and it didn’t burn, that is still the law.
law=how something works.
So yes reality is under that law of the Creator,but man dosnt understand the law. Man didn’t understand how things work. If he did. He would not die nor suffer sorrow.

Yes, I am familiar with the notion of dharma :wink:
However, what I am saying is there is no law that is binding for me. We break the so-called laws all the time. Once it was said that no object heavier than air can fly, then came airplanes; then it was said that no object can travel faster than sound, then came the jet engine. Now it is said that no object can travel faster than the speed of light, but we already know information travels faster than the speed of light in quantum tunnels.

Laws are made to be broken. There are no laws that can bind us. Anything that is an object for us can be changed and manipulated by us. Nature does our bidding.