Hi High Wolf,
When it comes to modern scientific method, there is no such a thing as “false knowledge,” per se, but false information.
false information that you believe to be correct is false knowledge then. Like you believe to know that there is teleportation of matter going on in labs. It false knowledge. You spread it. Don’t.
What becomes false information is usually happens after the application of a particular theory has been tested and the findings have been peer-reviewed, and finally “not recommended”. This is the academic tradition. And what I am giving you is a mere intrepretation, which is yet to be tested, just what you gave above is also an intepretation. I have explained my rationale to you, and cited several sources, and you have explained your rationale to you, uncited. So whose information is more reliable here?
I had already told you: Your sources are fine, but your interpretation is wrong. I use your sources as well. And my interpretation is correct. You think that quantum teleportation means teleporting matter. It’s not the case.
Matter can be teleported from point A to B. They are already doing this in laboratories, as I have shown to you, in subatomic realm dominated by quantum mechanics.
You have shown me quantum teleportation. Understand what quantum teleportation is, will ya.
By the way. I’m not saying teleporting matter is impossible. I have to repeat this always in any post when I discuss with a believer. I think it probably works somehow. Probably it will one day be possible. Teleportation of matter like quantum teleportation makes no sense, though, but there might sometime a way and method be invented.
And since this is happening on microcosmic level, its only logical to think that this could happen on macrocosmic level too.
Well. No matter has been teleported so far, so there is no logic in what you say at all. The following is not so logical too, but what the heck! :lol:
Quantum teleportation only works with entangled quantums. You have to entangle the particles first. Connect them, somehow. You know? Ever understood that, remotely? No…? Well…
And then you take them apart, particle A, room A, particle B, room B. And then you manipulate the characteristics of particle A in room A which is mirrored in particle B. In room B. They call it quantum teleportation.
How would you do that with for example a person? That consists, I don’t know of how many bazillion quantums? Here:
7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms. I wouldn’t know with what figure you’d have to multiply that to get the number of actual particles that have to be entangled; hydrogen for example has at least 2 particles, a proton and an electron.
How and with which other quantums would you entangle the quantums a person consists of? Would you have to have a box of the elements a person consists of and then entangle the matter? Here’s what the human body consists of:
Oxygen 65 25.6
Carbon 18 9.5
Hydrogen 10 63
Nitrogen 3 1.3
Calcium 1.5 0.24
Phosphorus 1.2 0.24
Potassium 0.2 0.03
Sulfur 0.2 0.04
Chlorine 0.2 0.04
Sodium 0.1 0.03
Magnesium 0.05 0.01
Iron 3.8g in men, 2.3g in women
Cobalt, Copper, Zinc, Iodine < 0.05 each
Selenium, Fluorine < 0.01 each
So you have human and a box with all these elements in the correct quantity, then you entangle the single quantums (how??) and then you take the matter-box into room B and then… What? Actually you can only affect some characteristics of entangled particles, like the spin. What’s that good for, when teleporting matter? I wouldn’t know. How do you picture the process? A person rises from the matter-box? How would a body be constructed? Any idea? And where would the person in room A go? Would it have to be destroyed? Why?
Or how do you think this all works? More sense it’d make if you had a technology that would create some sort of wormhole where the body then goes through itself. That would be totally different to teleportation, though.
Maybe it’s possible. But it’s not instantly logical that if you COULD actually teleport matter, a single particle, that you could as well teleport a complex system like a person or a grain of sand. But again, if teleportation of particles was possible, it would most probably work somehow else than quantum teleportation works.
Again: Overall, my explanation makes no sense. Which is the point.
Found this video on quantum teleportation:
Gives a basic insight and notes how it is related to teleporting a person. Here is another one about quantum entanglement:
Points out that quantum teleportation is about transferring information only.
Found this too, but didn’t watch it; too advanced for me:
Yes I believe in my own perception, and you think this is wrong?
What perception? Your misunderstanding of articles…? Many authors of such articles misunderstand the issue. You perception misleads you and you’re too stubborn to smarten up.
Then how do you think all those physicists carved off their own stuff? By sheer information obtained through having well-read all those theories? No, kind sir. Through belief, through insight, through inspiration. Einstein said that not even one second he stopped believing in his theory before its acclaim. When her secretary asked “what if your theory is wrong” he replied “then God must be wrong, because my theory is right.” Now, this sort of thing is very unique to human being, the “believing,” for we are not robots programmed to masturbate on information.
Belief is great. You can believe whatever you want. I don’t mind and it’s not the point. It’s fine to say “I believe teleportation of matter is possible”. It’s fine to say that all the Siddhis described in the Yoga Sutra can be achieved. Absolutely. I’m not even say it’s not gonna work, it’s impossible. Yet, it’s not proven. Not demonstrated. If there are Yogis who have achieved Siddhis, they obviously decided not to show them to the world. I had asked Surya Deva that question already, he ignored it, what about you: If there are Yogis with Siddhis, why do they not step forward and show their powers to the world? Why do they remain hidden? Please respond. :lol:
I told you that you think within the box of scientific givens.
No, I told you already that you wanna see me that way. I’m a dreamer too, but I’m capable of telling fact from fantasy. And besides, isn’t it you who says that teleportation of matter is withiin the box of scientific givens?
Thats why you don’t attune to my grasp on the matter. Which is fine. Yet I shall no longer discuss with you on this stuff, unless you bring me some sources of your own.
As long as you quote valid scientific information, which so far you did, that’s already fine. There are even sources that claim that matter has been teleported, check it out:
"Scientist Teleport Matter More Than Three Feet"
It even has an image of teleportation from Star Trek! :lol: Can you believe? I guess. I can’t. And in the article then it says:
Teleportation is one of nature’s most mysterious forms of transport: Quantum information, such as the spin of a particle or the polarization of a photon, is transferred from one place to another, without traveling through any physical medium.
Exactly what I told you. Characteristics of a particle. Here is an interesting reader comment:
And you can continue to call me “stupid,” whatever; do you even think I will care a bit? :rolleyes:
Well, I hope so. Then you might consider to remove your false knowledge and abstain from spreading false information.