man, all the rethorics again. :lol: So hilarious.
Are you jealous that you lack the imagination to construct no other response?
And since my views are not even remotely racist or that of a neonazi, but common sense that you find in any book, on any website and in every reasonable law, anybody with these regular view is labelled a neonazi and a racist by you. In general, dude.
They are Western supremacist. If you don’t think stereotypical and statements like “The world will become like the West” and “unless your mom is a cook” are not bigoted, then I don’t know what to tell you.
And that is why I think that your shameless slander has to be punished and forbidden. Because you’re not only insulting me personally, but a lot of people, and you’re not only insulting all those people, but create hate for them. So if one of your stupid followers would believe your words and then come across someone who for example explains how the Nazis came to power, they (the stupid followers) would think these (the reasonable explainers) would be distgusting neonazis posting on stormfront.
Actually, you are the one calling Surya a “damn racist” and “bitch.”
And that is why I think ignorant Westerners like you are the source of all suffering in the modern era. Actually, THEY ARE.
Pandara? Yeah, he was punished by you too, I had linked the post. And with saying
you did imply racism and this note:
I found quite patronizing too.
Additionally had Pandara clearly stated that it
He wanted to bring this topic up, one similar to the reincarnation-thing. Sure the one to whom happens something in life X did not necessarily do anything Karma-wise in life X. But according to Karme-theory in their past lifes:
That’s Karma: Harmful effects are caused by harmful actions from the past
Pandara made a naive comment, a comment that would have greatly insulted any Indian/Hindu. But he meant no harm and was actually asking a sincere question about Karma.
However, you deserve to be banned for insulting David. Insulting you or me is one thing, but insulting the guy who can ban you with a click and who has been the most tolerant and kind person in this forum is going too far.
Q, we have been over this multiple times. You know nothing of Indian history and jump to rash conclusions about our religion, country, and people often. This much was apparent in the “Dancing is banned in India” “argument.”
Of course I have, it’s called freedom of speech, dude. This forum is D.'s responsibility and I was banned for things far from claiming someone would be proud of his ancestors killing children and such. Far from. Far. Lightyears away. Not even remotely comparable. Stuff, that David had even agreed with. [B]The shit you pull off?[/B] Hardly worth a one-liner. Sure I have the right to judge that.
I was never good at kissing ass and I don’t intend to learn from you now. If I’m banned: I don’t care, this forum is not the center of my life.
What, however, David does not understand is the difference between a) being open minded and tolerating heated debates and b) granting a [B]propagandist like yourself a platform to spread their sick shit.[/B] I had already noted that in the thread “Understanding propaganda”, where he compared your propaganda and [B]even anti-semitism[/B] with some funny cartoon. [B]It’s cuz he not only is emotionally immature, but as well lacks of education generally[/B]. He thinks this would be just a thing between you and me, and you understand that he thinks so and enforce it: [B]Q can’t stand the heat in the kitchen, Q is offended, Q is crying, etc. No dude. Germans are called Nazis all the time, we don’t care.[/B]
So, in other words, you are denying the hundreds of millions of deaths your civilization has caused. Are you denying the numerous wrongdoings committed by your civilization, wrongdoings that Westerners still refuse to repent for by still clinging onto notions of racial, intellectual, religious, and societal supremacy?
And you wonder why Islamic fundamentalism exists? Its not necessarily because its in their religion, but because of the way the West barged into the M.E and created Isreal, took over M.E nations for their oil, refused to respect Islamic traditions and Middle Eastern sovereignty.
All this was, of course, in the name of “freedom” and “women’s rights.”
All these assumed prerogatives of spreading “democracy” are nothing more Western chauvinism and arrogance in disguise.
This similar to the same garbage that you have repeatedly spewed onto this forum by unjustly denouncing Indian culture, scorning Indian history, asserting the superiority of Western ways, saying that the whole world will become like the West, and so on.
And you wonder why Germans get called Nazis and why terms such as “white-washed” exist?
The fact is clear that you’re an idiot and while this might impress some idiots even more stupid than you are, you’ve done yourself a disfavor with this nonsense and surely lost quite some reputation among smart people. Smart you would be to take that accusation back instead of providing me with more and more keywords to further explain how and why you’re an idiot.
The number makes no difference, they’d all be a disgrace to their religion and nation. Just like any German in Nazigermany, who thought that Jews or people from other races were subhuman, were a disgrace to their nation. Don’t you agree? Do you think something is right when enough people believe in it?
Just like the way you think all other cultures are inferior to Western “culture” and think racial/cultural stereotypes are a reflection of the truth?
At least I have the decency to not think the same of all Germans on the basis of you solely.
No, I haven’t. Nietzsche, who is closest to your standpoint, for example does not share your views on science and all that. You punish him for that frequently. Who else is there to share your views? Give me their names please.
That is a relatively minor point compared to your Western supremacist biases. I am not supporting you in any way. I never have and I never will support a culturally ignorant silly goose. “Agreement” is not the same as “support.”
Dude, I share “many of your views” too. It’s actually kinda funny, you’re even trying to deny me sharing many of your views, for example condeming that India was conquered and all the suffering. I share that view - you depict it as if it’d make me happy.
Well, you have made light fun of the deaths of tens of millions of Indians in a previous post.
AND you accused India of having banned dancing.
AND you accused India of having child labor, repressive societal laws, and so on.
Quite frankly, you don’t share any of our views.
The views I do not share I made obvious, for example western people being barbarians who are like animals and backwards and incapable of doing science. Nietzsche disagrees with that strongly too and agreed with my point of view recently. He does not even oppose me in his recent posts, he opposes the corner you push me into. Kids, gotta forgive em.
Westerners like you ARE barbarians. Not physically, intellectually, racially, etc but culturally.
The way naive people like you denounce other cultures and nations without accounting for their history or the way the “superior” Western world screwed them over is disgusting.
Now you’re just making up B.S. I have never disagreed with SD in this matter to the extent you claim.
And there is no corner. If there is any corner, is it merely the product of your imposing your negative emotions onto external reality. You’re just trying to play dirty by gaining sympathy.
Point? I say you’re a racist, you say I’m a racist. I say you’re a disgrace to your parents, you fire the same thing back to me. Rethorics rethorics rethorics. :lol: And on that level, it’s really fine. Harmless, you know. Heated debate. Actually boring, short-witted, simple-minded, unimaginatively.
Nah, just ignorance. Neither of you know the least bit about the other’s parents, friends, and life in general.
Awww, aren’t you pc?! :roll: There are races and it’s no problem to note that. The problem begins when one says stuff like “white man this” or “white washed that”. You stopped using these terms, though, after I pointed out their racist implications (at least I didn’t read that ever again afterwards). Or “western people are like animals” or “Indian culture was more advanced than others because that’s the way it is”. So the problem begins when it is being implied that with race more than just phenotypical characteristics are to be associated.
And you wonder why Germans get called Nazis?
The fact is that humans are one species and show little to no genetic variation. This is scientific consensus. That you are refusing to acknowledge this is indicative of your feelings of racial superiority.
“White men” are exactly what Europeans/Americans called themselves for over 4 centuries. It was synonymous with the word Westerner. The term itself reflects white racial superiority.
Thus, the reason SD and I use it is to deride Western notions of superiority in everything.
For example - I dunno how often I mentioned it without getting a comment from you - do you live in Britain. You are British. Your culture is British culture. Nietzsche is an American, his culture is American culture. If you disagree, then on what base? How are you not British, how is Nietzsche not American? Because you guys are not like Americans and British? But how are they how you are not? What makes them and you different? I had asked you several times what’d be wrong about for example my point of view. Religion? I’m closer to Hinduism than I am to Christianity. For example. Supremacist thinking? I am neither proud of my culture, nor of my nation, nor of any achievements of my people; you guys are for more supremacist. I even do more Yoga than you and Nietzsche combined. What’s wrong with me? You know what you said about that? I would take glee of my ancestors attempted genocide. That’s the difference. I’d think it’s great they killed many innocent people. I know I shouldn’t, but really it makes me :lol:.
My culture is not American “culture” (what an oxymoron). I reject the materialism, chauvinism, and bigotry of American society. I am nothing like the Americans around me. I am more Indian than American in culture, just as the Hispanics here are more Hispanic than American, the Vietnamese more Vietnamese than American, the Chinese more Chinese than American, and so on.
You have a laughably narrow-minded view of “culture.” This is because you think the world revolves around Western culture and Western idealism. I am sorry to say that it does not and to say that such a thing as “ethnic pride” does exist.
BREAKING NEWS!!! BREAKING NEWS!!! [B]In order to be a Hindu, you must be a Yoga practitioner. [/B]
Silly ostentatious prevaricate, one does not have to practice Yoga to be Indian or Hindu. Yoga is just one of the 10 or 11 sects in Hinduism.
In fact, I can guarantee you SD and I have read more Indian scriptures than most people on the forum.
What about you? What Indian scriptures have you read?
What knowledge of Hinduism, India, Hindus, and Indians do you have besides the “Dancing Is Banned In India” video?
This is precisely why we refer to you guys as mlecchas and asuras. Westerners like you are the most culturally narrow minded and racially biased people on the planet.
You can talk about whatever you want, I have no problem to talk about race. Why would I? Why does it make you uncomfortable? Very simple: Because you are at least very close to being a racist. I still think that you have to be labelled as a racist, even if you speak of “cultural supremacist” and such. You still need to … border yourself from racism, as that border so far is only a verbal claim of yourself. You behave like a racist, so just saying “I’m not” isn’t good enough.
Because you live in a society that has quite a history of racism and intolerance.
Because you hold onto the antiquated notions of there being different races. Ironically enough, this is exactly what racist Europeans once thought; that humanity was divided into groups/species:
and something else I can’t remember
Yep. The “pissing contest” you, my friend, started, was about science. Western science, Indian science. Western science is largely the result of cooperation. I though admit that I simply picked up your simple-minded world view and spoofed it with the “my dad your dad”-parody. Now, if you want to depict it that way, I’d like to suddenly change my clownish viewpoint to what’s the case:
You first brought it up in a completely unrelated thread.
I am Deutsch. From Deutschland. And Deutsch-landers, like other Europeans back then, were racist to every other non-white person on the planet. In fact, Immanuel Kant, one of the greatest philosophers in history, was racist to blacks. In fact, by looking at historical documents and records, it is obvious that Deutschland was one of the most religiously bigoted and Antisemitic nations on the planet. That is why Germans were the 2nd largest immigrant in the U.S in the 1840’s-1860’s; they wanted to escape religious persecution and societal inequality. Do you agree or is this not the case? And since I do not understand the concept of Western cultural and racial supremacy and because I have never taken the time to pick up a history book, I will choose to have selective amnesia and forget that Europeans all had the same religion, the same racial mindsets, and the same notions of superiority of their civilization.
Seriously. I justify nothing -
Just btw do I know -
In the discussion in context of Shiva Reah you said that women and girls who dress sexy could not be respected. Couple of quotes:
Interesting, huh? And fyi: I lured you into this, you rethorics amateur.
You sure do fail in recognizing contexts.
SD was essentially saying that women who dress disrespectfully can’t be respected not because they can’t be respected but because others find it hard to respect them. Because men would be “temped” by lust.
However; just wanted to quote this as such a perfectly typical example.
Now why did the British do that -
It was racial and cultural supremacy and greed that drove the British to outdo their other European counterparts and acquire the world’s riches for themselves.
In my college level World History course, our teacher would give us heaps of primary documents written by colonial administrators and other racists, who wanted to justify their conquest of the world. All I saw in those documents were phrases like this: “We are civilizing their people” and “Their very resentment and resistance to colonial rule is an indication of how we have civilized them.”
But of course, you would continue to justify this by saying that it was not the majority’s decision.
Then I would LOL and tell you that Imperialism was highly popular among the nationalistic masses of Europe, who thronged to the newspaper stands to receive news of their nation’s most recent exploits.
I have pointed out over and over again that it’s not about making a crime just -
The only explanation -
Sweety. Of course will [B]civilised people look for explanations. [/B]
Please refrain from using the racially connotative word “civilized” from now on.
Exactly what I said. German kids learn this at school. Any documentary on Nazigermany depicts this.[B] What you bitch claim to be the “disgusting” viewpoint of a “neonazi” who “posts on stormfront.org”.[/B] Again: This is why you have to be punished -
Oh stop crying.